The Vice President, JD Vance is currently hosting Charlie Kirk's show.
Someone murdered Charlie Kirk
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Ask Mike Lee why he took all of that AIPAC money.
I have very mixed feelings about this. They also said Ben Shapiro is supposed to take over turning point. USA.. they didn’t appreciate the recent questions. Charlie started to ask. It is disgusting.
I don’t like Ben Shapiro taking it over. Mainly because he doesn’t believe Jesus was anything more than “a common criminal who was crucified for his troubles” (his words). That’s the whole Orthodox Jew thing and secondly he doesn’t engage people with kindness the way Charlie did. Him and Candace are far more argumentative, lack empathy and a genuine care for the people they’re debating like Charlie did. Charlie was special. I’d be really surprised if Erika allowed Ben to take it over full time…
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Sounds like a great opportunity to hijack a popular franchise and tune it to their liking (or rather, purposes).
Much like Charlie Kirk is presently being juxtaposed to Jesus Christ in so many AI videos and memes, they will now implement a similar form of association with Charlie Kirk.
Deification, exaltation, and validation by association.
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I agree. Charlie was unique and can not be replaced by another person. I have heard that TPUSA has had a boon of chapter requests. Something like 10,000 new requests for an organization that has like 3,000 existing chapters. Maybe a combo of a variety of conservative speakers can do the job.
Agreed.
I find it really hard to believe that given the political atmosphere and his need to run 24hr security and wear body armor that he wouldn’t have already had someone planned to take his place if something happened to him. I don’t see it being Ben Shapiro. Candace “maybe” (big maybe) but I know they had pretty drastically different opinions on Israel. She’s gone down kind of a weird path it seems over the past year or so…, I used to like her a lot more. Her affiliation with Andrew Tate bothers me too. Dudes a freakin scum bag
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Needs to be current member of TPUSA.
Not from outside, definitely not a Shapiro type or Soros cartell member.
Not from outside, definitely not a Shapiro type or Soros cartell member.
Yep.
That would suck hugely. Ben is a different animal and belongs in a different barn.
Like you, I hope Erika doesn't even consider that.
Shapiro had his chance years ago, zero reason to let him take over Turning Point and make it all retarded and shit. He's also way disconnected and already has a rotten dead fish smell when it comes to debating (well, arguing with) college students.
The celebration of Charlie Kirk's death by the leftists reminds of how the people might celebrate the deaths of the two witnesses described in Revelations Chapter 11.
"And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that rises from the bottomless pit will make war on them and conquer them and kill them, and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified. For three and a half days some from the peoples and tribes and languages and nations will gaze at their dead bodies and refuse to let them be placed in a tomb, and those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry and exchange presents, because these two prophets had been a torment to those who dwell on the earth. But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood up on their feet, and great fear fell on those who saw them. Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here!” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, and their enemies watched them. And at that hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the rest were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven."
-Revelation 11:7-13
For those that wish, here's a little background information on the two witnesses. For the record, I think that the two witnesses will be Enoch and Elijah. Those were the only two men in the Bible that didn't die. The bible tells is that everyone will die. Regardless of that, it's a good video.
In case anyone wants to watch JD Vance on TPUSA today
Who said Ben Shapiro will take it over? Please link primary source because I have a really hard time believing it.
Definitely NOT Shapiro…..
Honestly, Charlie Kirk was basically a super effective youth pastor and youth evangelist more than any political figure like Shapiro. He was not murdered for MAGA or politics really, or maybe rather directly, because he was so respectful and kind to his opponents. The whole MAGA or being "right wing", pro America, pro Christianity, etc. flows from faith, and not the other way around at all.
Marrying Christianity and woke leftism is a certain way to destroy a church and winnow it away to nothing as the people who believe in all that woke ideology don't have any spiritual connection to God, and their worship is empty and devoid of the Holy Spirit. I see it in many churches around me in the suburbs. When I see that "Pride Flag" go up, and a church revels in sin I know it's not going to be around very long. People with children don't want to teach them that there is no right from wrong, and while limitless love is a great idea, pretending that it doesn't require anything in return is absurd. Parents with addict children stop enabling them, BECAUSE they love them, not because they don't. Turning away from criminal and addicted children has to be one of the hardest things for a parent to do. I can barely imagine how horrible it must be, but it doesn't diminish a parents love at all, it just shows how strong it is.
Charlie was murdered for invoking The Rock of Offense unabashedly and unashamedly. While good people can have political disagreements and even shout at each other, what Charlie did was unbearable nails on a chalkboard to evil. He pointed it out and explained why God can't look upon it at all. I can literally feel demons writhing as he calmly and politely testifies, explains God's Law, and offers people a way out through love of Jesus Christ. It's so clear how bankrupt and full of hatred The Enemy is that people feel it and see it. Evil has a real, physical revulsion to redemption and truth that will drive them to violence no problem.
I wish I would have paid more attention to Charlie Kirk, but I rarely watch people and things I already agree with. Most of my time is spent looking at and listening to people who disagree with me. I'm just kind of an asshole like that. I'd rather draw the fire of a group who disagrees with me than listen to the choir.
Marrying Christianity and woke leftism is a certain way to destroy a church and winnow it away to nothing as the people who believe in all that woke ideology don't have any spiritual connection to God, and their worship is empty and devoid of the Holy Spirit. I see it in many churches around me in the suburbs. When I see that "Pride Flag" go up, and a church revels in sin I know it's not going to be around very long. People with children don't want to teach them that there is no right from wrong, and while limitless love is a great idea, pretending that it doesn't require anything in return is absurd. Parents with addict children stop enabling them, BECAUSE they love them, not because they don't. Turning away from criminal and addicted children has to be one of the hardest things for a parent to do. I can barely imagine how horrible it must be, but it doesn't diminish a parents love at all, it just shows how strong it is.
Charlie was murdered for invoking The Rock of Offense unabashedly and unashamedly. While good people can have political disagreements and even shout at each other, what Charlie did was unbearable nails on a chalkboard to evil. He pointed it out and explained why God can't look upon it at all. I can literally feel demons writhing as he calmly and politely testifies, explains God's Law, and offers people a way out through love of Jesus Christ. It's so clear how bankrupt and full of hatred The Enemy is that people feel it and see it. Evil has a real, physical revulsion to redemption and truth that will drive them to violence no problem.
I wish I would have paid more attention to Charlie Kirk, but I rarely watch people and things I already agree with. Most of my time is spent looking at and listening to people who disagree with me. I'm just kind of an asshole like that. I'd rather draw the fire of a group who disagrees with me than listen to the choir.
100%
If Jesus was to return today, spread the Gospel Truth with love, and kindness, work miracles, call people to repentance and to turn from their sin, these very same people would murder Him .
This is absolutely an attack on Him above anything else. It’s spiritual good vs evil masked in “politics”.
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I wouldn't have believed that initially until I heard dad's background and this kids upbringing - very pro 2A LE (+pastor); this kid did grow up shooting his whole life.
Just another indoctrinated chubby cunt.
She seems to have an obsession with bridgette macron's penis. I care a whole lot less about bridgette's penis than I do about Candace's obsession with it. I don't know what happened to her, but I'd disqualify her because of her loss of grip on reality.
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Which is perfectly fine & he should, if he gets more kids interested in critical thinking for themselves. However, he is a different kind of messenger, not suitable to fulfill the role.
IMO
That doesn’t mean taking over though. Shapiro has done college stuff for a long time.
Shapiro is too self-centered and self-righteous to have the same effect Charlie Kirk did. Shapiro just makes college kids want to argue more, because his type of debate is more about saying "Ha, gotcha! See, I was right!" in front of the crowd rather than legitimately wanting people to think about what he was saying. Not that his style doesn't have a place, it's just not as a replacement for Kirk and would likely have a negative effect instead.
Of course he will.
He's not doing Charlie or TPUSA a favor. He's doing Ben Shapiro a favor.
It is an opportunistic move to better his own position and he is acting like he is doing everyone a big favor by "stepping in". He thinks the newly formed vacuum is just too inviting to not jump right on in.
Fuck that noise.
If he pushed back into that space, he is going to un-do a lot of what Charlie was accomplishing.
I hope that if TPUSA attendees on campus are going to the trouble to attend an event, they are sharp enough to listen and watch with an open mind. If they can do that, Shapiro will not pass the sniff test.
No, but it means the Zionists have a lot of damage control to do. I think.
Something the insane leftists have latched onto, now can you claim that is direct connection? Probably not.
I think Charlie being killed will hurt them more than they think. I’m not sure if there was a direct connection to Israel. But they definitely were not friends. What has Ben created and funded by the scientists is the atmosphere of dehumanizing your enemy to make them seem subhuman to somehow absolve guilt when you kill them.
Something the insane leftists have latched onto, now can you claim that is direct connection? Probably not.
Perfect. I was going to say, the database should be searchable by location, if it isn't. This is probably someone that works at the Mayfair location. I'll have to go see one day.
Interesting and great thing to ponder.
He was so smart with all things to do with planning and strategy. The VP gave a ton of insight and credit to him on todays TPUSA Podcast.
Keeping that in mind, it would have certainly made sense that he would have at least considered what would happen to his effort if he were to be disabled or die.
Might be one of those things that is announced in it's own time if it was already decided beforehand.
Meh. People should see this bizarre clown world we are living in
Big mike
Castros son running snow Mexico
Etc
I think Ben is someone the Jewish lobby is very comfortable with, and they hope he seizes control of what Charlie’s death is building. His personal aura reminds me of Hildabeast.
I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't end up being his widow. Maybe, maybe not.
I don’t get that feeling
Imho Kirk was handsome and well spoken, Shapiro is kind of a dork
If they were smart they’d get a whole bunch of people like him together and work as a team but it’s “conservatives” so they’ll probably backstab instead
I could readily see why you would say that.I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't end up being his widow. Maybe, maybe not.
She is sharp, well spoken, committed and genuine.
I'm going to say she wouldn't do it.
At least not for the next 16 or so years. I think she is going to put 110% of her waking hours and energy into her children. She is the ultimate mama bear.
I do think she is extremely well versed in the mechanics of every aspect of TPUSA and she will definitely have the final say and veto power on all critical decisions including how they select the new face of Turning Point. She is surrounded by a very capable team that is unquestionably loyal to her. She will let them do all the heavy lifting and just supervise.
I agree with that. I get the impression that CK built a capable team of quality people, his wife included, and they will lead it on in the mission.
The one thing I’m hoping is republicans finally stick together in this. The other side literally wants to kill us it should be a massive wake up call.
A lot to digest. Probably not wrong. But slow down, feed us with a smaller spoon and take a little longer to do it.
Very intelligent and objective person. While she was talking, I imagined her talking before congress. All I could see were deer in the headlights and eyes rolled back in their heads........
After 58 pages, I was wondering when someone would get close to thinking out of the box. Just spit balling, but what if the truth is really different from it seems here?
I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't end up being his widow. Maybe, maybe not.
Maybe but I don’t see it. She has two young kids to raise. Charlie wouldn’t want to pull her away from that. Nor would she. The kids would suffer. In effect they’d be losing both their dad and their mom. She is capable of it though.
I do think she will involved, heavily but not at the expense of her kids. 100% she will be the final say so on who she allows to step in for Charlie and represent what he built.
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