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Suppressors Form 4 wait time

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: Suppressor
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 4/3/12
5. Form Arrived: 4/5/12
6. Check Cashed: 4/6/12 (that was fast lol)
7. Pending Date:
8. Approved Date:
9. Forms Received:
10. Examiner Name:
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

Once more, into the breech...

1. NFA Item: Suppressor - SAS .338 Vengeance Ti
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 03.08.12
5. Form Arrived: yes
6. Check Cashed: yes
7. Pending Date: 04.03.12
8. Approved Date:
9. Forms Received:
10. Examiner Name: Dana Pickles

Anticipate Sept-Oct approval at the rate these are going lately.

http://www.nfatracker.com
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CEGA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1. NFA Item: Elite Iron Sierra
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent: 9/13/2011
5. Delivered: 9/15/2011
6. Check Cashed:9/19/2011
7. Pending Date: 10/5/2011
8. Approved Date: 4/3/2012
9. Forms Received: 4/11/2012
10. Examiner: Dana Pickels

Have to say this process really kills any attempt at instant gratification. </div></div>

Got the call yesterday that my stamp was back so at long last was able to get and grab the Elite Iron can. So from actual time that I gave my dealer the packet of forms to having things approved and in hand was just under 7 months.
 
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June 12, 2011 - won certificate for SRT .22 can at Oregon Sniper Challenge

July 01, 2011 - $200 + SRT cert to local SOT gunshop

August 08, 2011 - find out gunshop hasn't contacted SRT , shorter .22 is out of stock but SRT is happy to give me the in stock next size up for FREE

August 08, 2011 - call gunshop / what the hell - send SOT info to SRT for can

August 09, 2011 - call SRT ( gunshop faxed over FFL and not SOT ) / call gunshop - correct paperwork faxxed

November 01, 2011 - Can sat at gunshop for week / i find out because i call them

Jan 13, 2012 - Can went pending



! guess how pissed i'm getting
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Gun shop has had my 7.62 can for a month now and never contacted me about $200 tax money (went in 4/9/2012 & gave them money)

??? we'll see if it ever goes pending (venting)
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: Suppressor
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent: September 26, 2011
5. Delivered: September 29, 2011
6. Personal Check Cashed: October 3, 2011
7. Pending Date: October 6, 2011
8. Approved Date: April 5, 2012
9. Forms Received: ???
10. Examiner: Jason Bowers
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">June 12, 2011 - won certificate for SRT .22 can at Oregon Sniper Challenge

July 01, 2011 - $200 + SRT cert to local SOT gunshop

August 08, 2011 - find out gunshop hasn't contacted SRT , shorter .22 is out of stock but SRT is happy to give me the in stock next size up for FREE

August 08, 2011 - call gunshop / what the hell - send SOT info to SRT for can

August 09, 2011 - call SRT ( gunshop faxed over FFL and not SOT ) / call gunshop - correct paperwork faxxed

November 01, 2011 - Can sat at gunshop for week / i find out because i call them

Jan 13, 2012 - Can went pending



! guess how pissed i'm getting
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Gun shop has had my 7.62 can for a month now and never contacted me about $200 tax money (went in 4/9/2012 & gave them money)

??? we'll see if it ever goes pending (venting) </div></div>

holy S%#* man i would be pretty darn annoyed to say the least - esp with the wait times getting as long as they are - maybe someone will accidentally put your papers in the wrong spot and youll get approved in a week or two =D
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

Alright

I sent out a money order with my paperwork on monday and according to western union, they cashed the check this past friday. The wait begins

NFA Item: Elite Iron Bravo 1 .30 cal suppressor
Trust or Individual: Trust
Money order cashed: April 13th, 2012


How do you find out if your form 4 is pending?
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

uracowman you just need to call ATF # is 304 616 4500 and have your suppressor serial number. They can tell you when it went pending. I called the other day, mine went pending Oct 27 and im still waiting...........
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA Item: TBAC 30P1
Trust
Forms sent: Oct. 23,2011
Check cashed:?
Pending:Nov.22,2011
Approved: April 16, 2012
Recieved: April 23,2012
Examiner: Farris
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: John L</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NFA Item: TBAC 30P1
Trust
Forms sent: Oct. 23,2011
Check cashed:?
Pending:Nov.22,2011
Approved: April 16, 2012
Recieved: April 23,2012
Examiner: Farris </div></div>

wow....

it took a month for the form 4 to go pending from the date you send it out?
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA item: TBAC 30-P1
Trust
Forms Sent: April 24, 2012
Check cashed: May 2, 2012
Pending: June 4, 2012
Approved: 9-29-12
Recieved:
Examiner:
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA Item:TBAC 30p-1
trust
form sent: oct 10
check cashed: oct 13
pending: ?
Approved: ?
Recieved: April 24
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: half</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ima take a nap, someone wake me up when they start approving the January pendings. </div></div>

I'm with you on this one. I sent out my payment about two weeks ago, but I don't want to call them to see if my application went pending. I feel like it would be opening pandora's box.
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

Dont stress calling them. You'll be lucky to ever talk with an examiner. They are as elusive as white unicorns. The receptionist will tell you the application status with no problem. Just have your copy of the Form 4 in front of you to reference. If you get stuck pending for more than 3 weeks as to speak with the examiner. Last time they were great to talk to as long as I was couteous.
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bunnypunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dont stress calling them. You'll be lucky to ever talk with an examiner. They are as elusive as white unicorns. The receptionist will tell you the application status with no problem. Just have your copy of the Form 4 in front of you to reference. If you get stuck pending for more than 3 weeks as to speak with the examiner. Last time they were great to talk to as long as I was couteous. </div></div>

What if I don't have a copy of my form 4 with me? When I received the form 4 paperwork, the dealer gave me two copies to send to the ATF. I went ahead and sent both of them without keeping a copy for myself, but other than the one they send back to the dealer, I assume the other one if for their records?
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uracowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bunnypunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dont stress calling them. You'll be lucky to ever talk with an examiner. They are as elusive as white unicorns. The receptionist will tell you the application status with no problem. Just have your copy of the Form 4 in front of you to reference. If you get stuck pending for more than 3 weeks as to speak with the examiner. Last time they were great to talk to as long as I was couteous. </div></div>

What if I don't have a copy of my form 4 with me? When I received the form 4 paperwork, the dealer gave me two copies to send to the ATF. I went ahead and sent both of them without keeping a copy for myself, but other than the one they send back to the dealer, I assume the other one if for their records? </div></div>

Call your dealer and ask what the SN is on the Form 4. Know the Dealer's actual FFL info (some are different than their store front name) and your name (trust, LLC, etc...)

They'll ask the SN and who you are (in relation to the Form 4). If Trust, you're the grantor, trustee, etc...
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

just ordered my first can and i am wondering how the examiners work? does each state have their own examiners or does everyone in the us get put in one pile and first come first serve? if every state has their own how many do they have? maybe a stupid question cuz even if kansas has 20 of em wait time is still six months
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: midkansasguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">just ordered my first can and i am wondering how the examiners work? does each state have their own examiners or does everyone in the us get put in one pile and first come first serve? if every state has their own how many do they have? maybe a stupid question cuz even if kansas has 20 of em wait time is still six months
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Yes. The examiners are assigned specific states.
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

Mine took just under 7 weeks!

1. NFA Item: M-203
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent: 20120309
5. Delivered: ?
6. Check Cashed: ?
7. Pending Date: ?
8. Approved Date: 20120423
9. Forms Received: 20120426
10. Examiner: Christina Farris
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA Item: TBAC 30P-1
Transferee Type: Individual
Ordered: 1/3/12
Checked with Dealer: 1/30/12
TBAC lost order, so order actually placed on 1/30/12.
Arrived at Dealer: 3/20/12
Forms Sent: 4/25/12
Delivered: 4/28/12
Check Cashed: ???
Pending Date: 6/6/12
Approved Date:
Forms Received:
Examiner: Dana Pickles

 
Re: Form 4 wait time

I mailed in my Form 4 Early October 2011 for 3 supressors - 45ACP, 223, 308.
In March I called for follow-up and was told all was in order but I would have to wait 6 months. When asked why I was told it was now "policy".
It has now been 6 months.

1. NFA Item: Suporessor
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Form Sent: 10/4/2011
5. Form Arrived: 10/07/2011
6. Check Cashed: 10/30/2011
7. Pending Date: None
7a. Error Form Received: None
7b. Corrected Form Sent: N/A
8. Approved Date: Still waiting
9. Forms Received:
10. Examiner Name:
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

Anyone know if the amount or number of additional trustees affects the wait time? (for a trust)
I would think only the grantors info would be scrutinized?
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone know if the amount or number of additional trustees affects the wait time? (for a trust)
I would think only the grantors info would be scrutinized? </div></div>

The trust is reviewed in accordance with state laws. Not the trustees/grantor.
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uracowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bunnypunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dont stress calling them. You'll be lucky to ever talk with an examiner. They are as elusive as white unicorns. The receptionist will tell you the application status with no problem. Just have your copy of the Form 4 in front of you to reference. If you get stuck pending for more than 3 weeks as to speak with the examiner. Last time they were great to talk to as long as I was couteous. </div></div>

What if I don't have a copy of my form 4 with me? When I received the form 4 paperwork, the dealer gave me two copies to send to the ATF. I went ahead and sent both of them without keeping a copy for myself, but other than the one they send back to the dealer, I assume the other one if for their records? </div></div>

Call your dealer and ask what the SN is on the Form 4. Know the Dealer's actual FFL info (some are different than their store front name) and your name (trust, LLC, etc...)

They'll ask the SN and who you are (in relation to the Form 4). If Trust, you're the grantor, trustee, etc... </div></div>

When you are referring to the SN, do you mean the serial number of the suppressor?
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

I probably shouldn't have called...

1. NFA Item: Huntertown Guardian Suppressor
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent: January 20th, 2012
5. Delivered: -
6. Check Cashed: Feb 8th, 2012
7. Pending Date: March 2nd, 2012 (GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR)
8. Approved Date:
9. Forms Received:
10. Examiner:

Linda was very pleasant when I called and, as others here have posted, she said NFA is taking "a full six months" to process Form 4s.

And to think back in January when I bought the thing my dumbass was hoping to see it by July 4th....
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

Are you serious??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: d00d</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mine took just under 7 weeks!

1. NFA Item: M-203
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent: 20120309
5. Delivered: ?
6. Check Cashed: ?
7. Pending Date: ?
8. Approved Date: 20120423
9. Forms Received: 20120426
10. Examiner: Christina Farris </div></div>
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uracowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uracowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bunnypunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dont stress calling them. You'll be lucky to ever talk with an examiner. They are as elusive as white unicorns. The receptionist will tell you the application status with no problem. Just have your copy of the Form 4 in front of you to reference. If you get stuck pending for more than 3 weeks as to speak with the examiner. Last time they were great to talk to as long as I was couteous. </div></div>

What if I don't have a copy of my form 4 with me? When I received the form 4 paperwork, the dealer gave me two copies to send to the ATF. I went ahead and sent both of them without keeping a copy for myself, but other than the one they send back to the dealer, I assume the other one if for their records? </div></div>

Call your dealer and ask what the SN is on the Form 4. Know the Dealer's actual FFL info (some are different than their store front name) and your name (trust, LLC, etc...)

They'll ask the SN and who you are (in relation to the Form 4). If Trust, you're the grantor, trustee, etc... </div></div>

When you are referring to the SN, do you mean the serial number of the suppressor? </div></div>

Yes - or of the SBR, MG, SBS, etc... Call the NFA Branch #, they'll answer and tell them you'd like to check a status of a transfer. They'll ask for the Serial Number of the item(s) - You give it to them. Then they'll ask who you are - to reference the Transferor or Transferee on the Form 4 (1). Then they'll tell you the status. If you don't know your examiner, you can ask who that is as well.

Just be polite.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jackalope33B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you serious??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: d00d</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mine took just under 7 weeks!

1. NFA Item: M-203
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent: 20120309
5. Delivered: ?
6. Check Cashed: ?
7. Pending Date: ?
8. Approved Date: 20120423
9. Forms Received: 20120426
10. Examiner: Christina Farris </div></div> </div></div>Yes, and I was surprised that it was that quick.
The transfer is to a SOT dealer in another state for the purpose of a sale to an individual in that state.
I hope the transfer to him from there is quick as well.
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA Item: TBAC 30-P1
Form Type: Form 4
Forms Sent: October 18, 2011
Check Cashed: Oct 25, 2011
Pending Date: Oct 31, 2011
Approved Date: April 20, 2012
Forms Received:April 27,2012
Picked up today and put 20 rounds through it on my 7mm rem mag!!!!!
Examiner: No idea
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

Michigan wait times are presently running at almost exactly six months.
 
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How much does doing it on a trust usually shorten it? About to do a Ti 30 on my new trust.
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

Verdugo60,

I just purchased a can from Mile High Shooting Accessories and the current wait time in our neck of the woods is 5 months under a trust. The sick part of it is there is no reason for it, a criminal history and fingerprint check does not even take two days in the real LE world. For a trust it should be two days also because you are not sending in a picture or fingerprit cards. A little love from Washington DC sure would be nice to light a fire under their asses.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Force_Multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">a trust doesn't shorten it</div></div>

Beg to differ.

I didn't have to take a day off of work, drive the 30-40 minutes up to Baltimore/Reisterstown to stand in line then sit for upwards of four hours for fingerprints with all the illegals, reprobates and offenders of one sort or another, THEN go to the State Police barracks and wait for someone to come downstairs for my paperwork, THEN wait two to four weeks for the MSP to stamp the forms and send them to me.

I saved a day, and a month by using a trust last time even though it still took six months total.

It'll take 6 months again this time, but that's how it was under the LAST democrat socialist regime.
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: normbal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Force_Multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">a trust doesn't shorten it</div></div>

Beg to differ.

I didn't have to take a day off of work, drive the 30-40 minutes up to Baltimore/Reisterstown to stand in line then sit for upwards of four hours for fingerprints with all the illegals, reprobates and offenders of one sort or another, THEN go to the State Police barracks and wait for someone to come downstairs for my paperwork, THEN wait two to four weeks for the MSP to stamp the forms and send them to me.

I saved a day, and a month by using a trust last time even though it still took six months total.

It'll take 6 months again this time, but that's how it was under the LAST democrat socialist regime. </div></div>

I believe FM meant that it doesn't change your time waiting with the NFA....
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA Item: Cyclone
Form Type: Form 4
Forms Sent: October 13, 2011
Check Cashed: Oct 23, 2011
Pending Date: Oct 27, 2011
Approved Date: April 26, 2012
Forms Received:April 30,2012
Examiner: Sara Jones

Happy as hell: April 30, 2012
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: normbal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Force_Multiplier</div><div class="ubbcode-body">a trust doesn't shorten it</div></div>

Beg to differ.

I didn't have to take a day off of work, drive the 30-40 minutes up to Baltimore/Reisterstown to stand in line then sit for upwards of four hours for fingerprints with all the illegals, reprobates and offenders of one sort or another, THEN go to the State Police barracks and wait for someone to come downstairs for my paperwork, THEN wait two to four weeks for the MSP to stamp the forms and send them to me.

I saved a day, and a month by using a trust last time even though it still took six months total.

It'll take 6 months again this time, but that's how it was under the LAST democrat socialist regime. </div></div>

I believe FM meant that it doesn't change your time waiting with the NFA.... </div></div>

Time is time. The trust saves a LOT of it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Who Dat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Verdugo60,

I just purchased a can from Mile High Shooting Accessories and the current wait time in our neck of the woods is 5 months under a trust. The sick part of it is there is no reason for it, a criminal history and fingerprint check does not even take two days in the real LE world. For a trust it should be two days also because you are not sending in a picture or fingerprit cards. A little love from Washington DC sure would be nice to light a fire under their asses. </div></div>

Thanks man. I have talked with Mile High, they seem great. Will be using them most likely. The trust is worth it just to be able to avoid the Jackass Sheriff in Arapahoe county that has twice "forgotten" to call me back about my can.
 
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The NFA/ATF Branch has a hearing in July about current backlog at their offices. The heads of the department are to appear before congress and a panel of superiors. American Silencer Association is doing big things in the Class 3 world for us. Everyone should support their cause if you care about your RIGHT to own firearms and suppressors. Join their facebook page!
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

def wanna tivo this if its on cspan etc. if anybody get wind of date/channel, internet feed etc. post it up and pm me so i dont miss it.
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uracowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright

I sent out a money order with my paperwork on monday and according to western union, they cashed the check this past friday. The wait begins

NFA Item: Elite Iron Bravo 1 .30 cal suppressor
Trust or Individual: Trust
Money order cashed: April 13th, 2012


How do you find out if your form 4 is pending? </div></div>

Alright I just called the ATF and here is the update.

NFA Item: Elite Iron Bravo 1 .30 cal suppressor
Trust or Individual: Trust
Forms sent: April 10th, 2012
Money order cashed: April 13th, 2012
Pending date: May 1st, 2012
 
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It took about 1 month for them to cash the check. I wonder if that's how long it took for the dealer to send it off.
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

Yeah!!! Been waiting awhile to post here...
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NFA Item: Suppressors
Form Type: Form 4's on a Trust
Forms Sent: 03 Oct '11
Check cashed: 06 Oct '11
Pending: 19 Oct '11
Approved: 25 Apr '12
Forms received: 01 May '12
Examiner: Jason Bowers
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA Item: Thunderbeast 30P-1
Individual
Forms sent: 12/1/11
Check cashed: 12/12/11
Pending: 12/20/11
Approved: 04/27/12
Received: 05/02/12
Examiner: Farris
 
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