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Suppressors Form 4 wait time

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stormshadow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NFA Item: Thunderbeast 30P-1
Individual
Forms sent: 12/1/11
Check cashed: 12/12/11
Pending: 12/20/11
Approved: 04/27/12
Received: 05/02/12
Examiner: Farris </div></div>

Man - Farris is on fire!
 
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NFA Item: .22 Suppressor
Form Type: Form 4
Ordered 6-30-11
Forms Sent to ATF: 11-10-11
Check cashed: 11-15-11
Pending: ?????
Approved: ??????
Forms received: ?????
Examiner: ?????

I have at least seen it one time, when I went by Roscoe's and did the paperwork. But that was about 9 months ago. Maybe one day I will have it.
_________________________
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stormshadow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NFA Item: Thunderbeast 30P-1
Individual
Forms sent: 12/1/11
Check cashed: 12/12/11
Pending: 12/20/11
Approved: 04/27/12
Received: 05/02/12
Examiner: Farris </div></div>

Man - Farris is on fire! </div></div>

That is first Dec pending I've seen approved. Farris is on fire. I have a Jan 6th pending, and I'd LOVE to get it in another month.
 
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NFA Item: Silencerco Sparrow II
Trust
Forms sent:
Check cashed: 12/8/11
Pending:
Approved: 6/4/12
Received: 6/12/12
Examiner: Jason M. Frushour (unusual for my state)


NFA Item: Shark JAWS .338
Trust
Forms sent:
Check cashed: 4/10/12
Pending: May 9
Approved:
Received:
Examiner: Siviero?

 
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My two krinks went pending on or about 11/1/2011. I got the stamps on 4/15/2012, as I recall. Form 1's, obviously, but speedier than I thought, especially given the current onslaught of NFA apps.

I'd budget 5-6 months, assuming no hiccups and all paperwork is in order.
 
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NFA item: Ops Inc 12th .30 cal
Trust
Forms Sent: Feb 20, 2012
Check cashed: May 2, 2012
Pending:
Approved:
Received:
Examiner:Dana Pickles

My dealer tells me the the BATFE is hiring contractors to do some background tasks so the examiners can focus on doing what they do best. Their goal is to get Form 4 wait times down to 1 month. I don't know if it's true, but if it is, it's certainly good news.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt.Cross</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NFA item: Ops Inc 12th .30 cal
Trust
Forms Sent: Feb 20, 2012
Check cashed: May 2, 2012
Pending:
Approved:
Received:
Examiner:Dana Pickles

My dealer tells me the the BATFE is hiring contractors to do some background tasks so the examiners can focus on doing what they do best.<span style="font-weight: bold"> Their goal is to get Form 4 wait times down to 1 month. I don't know if it's true, but if it is, it's certainly good news.</span> </div></div>

when pigs fly
 
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I've seen a house fly, and a horse fly so why no pig flies, LOL. I couldn't resist...mainly cause I'm only 1 month into my wait and it's driving me crazy
 
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I can find out for myself once I get my info and call them up. I'm no more patient than the next guy, but my dealer is not the lying type.
 
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you must go through Eric
he was telling me the same thing about getting the contractors in there....i hope they do and mine gets pushed through.

i intentionally forgot the day he sent the forms in and the day the check was cashed.....seeing as this is my first, i'd be sitting here counting the days and driving myself crazy!
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt.Cross</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
My dealer tells me the the BATFE is hiring contractors to do some background tasks so the examiners can focus on doing what they do best. Their goal is to get Form 4 wait times down to 1 month. I don't know if it's true, but if it is, it's certainly good news. </div></div>

(snicker)

Why would they do that? The BATFE wants to keep NFA items OUT of your hands, not make the process easier and more streamlined.
 
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It is my belief that Obama plans to use "ATF Rulings" to effectively ban many modern weapons we all now take for granted. The same non-legislative process that made the Street Sweeper a destructive device could be used to reclassify other weapons as well.

We also know he has no interest in making our silencers/machine guns quicker to obtain. If the NFA branch does pull off a major up-staffing it could be preparations for my predicted move.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr.Maim</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
(snicker)

Why would they do that? The BATFE wants to keep NFA items OUT of your hands, not make the process easier and more streamlined. </div></div>

Just curious, what's your basis for that statment? If the BATFE really wants to keep NFA items out of our hands, what's keeping them from doing so? I don't want to be disagreeable but your statement strikes me as being more conjecture than anything else.

You are correct GSR, I'm getting my suppressor through Eric, he seems like a good guy.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt.Cross</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr.Maim</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
(snicker)

Why would they do that? The BATFE wants to keep NFA items OUT of your hands, not make the process easier and more streamlined. </div></div>

Just curious, what's your basis for that statment? If the BATFE really wants to keep NFA items out of our hands, what's keeping them from doing so? I don't want to be disagreeable but your statement strikes me as being more conjecture than anything else.

You are correct GSR, I'm getting my suppressor through Eric, he seems like a good guy. </div></div>

You do realize that one of the principle reasons why the ATF was started was to keep certain things out of the hands of americans right?

I.E class items.
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uracowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt.Cross</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr.Maim</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
(snicker)

Why would they do that? The BATFE wants to keep NFA items OUT of your hands, not make the process easier and more streamlined. </div></div>

Just curious, what's your basis for that statment? If the BATFE really wants to keep NFA items out of our hands, what's keeping them from doing so? I don't want to be disagreeable but your statement strikes me as being more conjecture than anything else.

You are correct GSR, I'm getting my suppressor through Eric, he seems like a good guy. </div></div>

You do realize that one of the principle reasons why the ATF was started was to keep certain things out of the hands of americans right?

I.E class items.</div></div>

I do. I also understand the practicality of keeping certain things out of the hands of certain people. While I do not feel that suppressors should be in that classification, the ATF still insures that you are legally viable to own one and then issues permission to own it. I personally wouldn't want to get in trouble for obtaining something I wasn't legally able to possess. If it were a case of them actually withholding something to which you were legally entitled, it would be different, but the fact is they are still approving the requests being submitted, albeit slowly.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt.Cross</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uracowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt.Cross</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr.Maim</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
(snicker)

Why would they do that? The BATFE wants to keep NFA items OUT of your hands, not make the process easier and more streamlined. </div></div>

Just curious, what's your basis for that statment? If the BATFE really wants to keep NFA items out of our hands, what's keeping them from doing so? I don't want to be disagreeable but your statement strikes me as being more conjecture than anything else.

You are correct GSR, I'm getting my suppressor through Eric, he seems like a good guy. </div></div>

You do realize that one of the principle reasons why the ATF was started was to keep certain things out of the hands of americans right?

I.E class items.</div></div>

I do. I also understand the practicality of keeping certain things out of the hands of certain people. While I do not feel that suppressors should be in that classification, the ATF still insures that you are legally viable to own one and then issues permission to own it. I personally wouldn't want to get in trouble for obtaining something I wasn't legally able to possess. If it were a case of them actually withholding something to which you were legally entitled, it would be different, but the fact is they are still approving the requests being submitted, albeit slowly. </div></div>

not certain people....ALL people.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uracowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
not certain people....ALL people. </div></div>

Semantics. Keeping weapons that have no business being in the common market from falling into common hands is what is known as 'common sense'.

What 'certain things' are you entitled to that the ATF is depriving you of?
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt.Cross</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uracowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
not certain people....ALL people. </div></div>

Semantics. Keeping weapons that have no business being in the common market from falling into common hands is what is known as 'common sense'.

What 'certain things' are you entitled to that the ATF is depriving you of? </div></div>

May sound elitist but I have no problem with NFA process other than length of time to process transfers and lack of post 86 transferables. If you can't manage the hoops maybe this isn't for you.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bamawrx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
May sound elitist but I have no problem with NFA process other than length of time to process transfers and lack of post 86 transferables. If you can't manage the hoops maybe this isn't for you. </div></div>

No kidding. It would seem there is a sentiment that it should be within everyone's human rights to get drunk and fire off that anti-tank weapon you bought from Joe Schmoe at the gun show. I don't have any problem with the ATF keeping that from happening.
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Matt.Cross</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NFA item: Ops Inc 12th .30 cal
Trust
Forms Sent: Feb 20, 2012
Check cashed: May 2, 2012
Pending:
Approved:
Received:
Examiner:Dana Pickles

My dealer tells me the the BATFE is hiring contractors to do some background tasks so the examiners can focus on doing what they do best. Their goal is to get Form 4 wait times down to 1 month. I don't know if it's true, but if it is, it's certainly good news. </div></div>

Are you sure your dates are correct? 3 months to get them to cash your check? Usually thats done within 7-10 business day of them receiving the forms. I personally think they shouldn't be able to cash it until their are approved. Might be some incentive to work a little faster.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JPipes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My two krinks went pending on or about 11/1/2011. I got the stamps on 4/15/2012, as I recall. Form 1's, obviously, but speedier than I thought, especially given the current onslaught of NFA apps.

I'd budget 5-6 months, assuming no hiccups and all paperwork is in order. </div></div>

Wont matter what form variant you have. It matters what state your in and what that examiners work load is like. I always tell friends to budget about 7-8 months from door to door.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Are you sure your dates are correct? 3 months to get them to cash your check? Usually thats done within 7-10 business day of them receiving the forms. I personally think they shouldn't be able to cash it until their are approved. Might be some incentive to work a little faster. </div></div>

Yes sir, they are correct. I was more than a little anxious as I'm sure you probably know. At this point all I need is my info from my NFA dealer and I can find out what the deal is myself.
 
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Well your paperwork is in and you have the serial number.... That's about all their is to know
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you sure your dates are correct? 3 months to get them to cash your check? Usually thats done within 7-10 business day of them receiving the forms. I personally think they shouldn't be able to cash it until their are approved. Might be some incentive to work a little faster. </div></div>

AAC 7.62sdn on a trust.
Forms arrived; 3-26-12
Check Cashed: Not yet
Pending 4-17-12


Not sure what is going on but my bank said that they don't remove the funds from my account and post the scanned copy until they get it back in either paper form or electronically. My dealer contacted the BATF after I informed them that as of 4-24-12 my check had not been cashed. The examiner said it was pending and that it couldn't be unless the check was cashed.

Must be a backlog of cashed check stubs??

Remnar
 
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Am I the only one that thinks that repeat business should get a fast track? Once you been checked and all your stuff is in order, should it not be easier to approve? Or maybe we should propose the capitalism approach and you can pay extra for priotity handling, USPS does, why not BATFE? Hah!
 
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TAX MAN CAME..
he brought 4 stamps with him WOOOOHOOOO.
2 weeks ago BATFE called and wanted schedule A & B. I explained there was nothing in schedule A as he had the items in his hands. Schedule B didn't apply to NFA items and was irrevelant. so I sent blank forms of Schedule A and B. He was happy with that. I got my stamps yesterday.
On a Trust
pending 11-2-11
approval 5-7-2012
OBIID
Gemtech G5
AAC 762SDN
SBS 870 USSS
 
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Here's some motivation for my comrades in the Form 4 waiting line, pics of the new addition to the family.

12thmod1.jpg


12thmod5.jpg


12thmod2.jpg


It's gonna be worth every minute of the wait!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anonymous 51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Six months to the day for a can on a trust. Just opened mail box and there the stamp was! </div></div>

So you are the SOT/FFL holder? A form 4 should go to your dealer, not you.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DarkD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Am I the only one that thinks that repeat business should get a fast track? Once you been checked and all your stuff is in order, should it not be easier to approve? Or maybe we should propose the capitalism approach and you can pay extra for priotity handling, USPS does, why not BATFE? Hah!</div></div>


I know you were joking but its a gov job they never get better....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anonymous 51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Six months to the day for a can on a trust. Just opened mail box and there the stamp was! </div></div>

So you are the SOT/FFL holder? A form 4 should go to your dealer, not you. </div></div>

Form 1? It would come back to him.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Remnar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you sure your dates are correct? 3 months to get them to cash your check? Usually thats done within 7-10 business day of them receiving the forms. I personally think they shouldn't be able to cash it until their are approved. Might be some incentive to work a little faster. </div></div>

AAC 7.62sdn on a trust.
Forms arrived; 3-26-12
Check Cashed: Not yet
Pending 4-17-12


Not sure what is going on but my bank said that they don't remove the funds from my account and post the scanned copy until they get it back in either paper form or electronically. My dealer contacted the BATF after I informed them that as of 4-24-12 my check had not been cashed. The examiner said it was pending and that it couldn't be unless the check was cashed.

Must be a backlog of cashed check stubs??

Remnar </div></div>

Maybe you are lucky, and they lost your check, but still send you your tax stamp. The gov seems to misplace a lot of money, whats $200 to them.

Good luck
 
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Thats what I thought but it came to me. I had a problem with trust and sent the requested info and three days later my stamp was in my mail box. Gonna go pick up my can in two days.
 
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I'm 4 months into a Form 1 and ran into a problem. I received a call from the ATF saying the signature of our First selectman(basically the Mayor) who is our CLEO was not valid anymore. It was fine for my previous 3 Form 4's, but ATF changed it up mid-stream. I now have to have the local Troop send it to the State Police Commissioner for his signature. So this should add another month to the 5 I was planning on. Heads up to anyone who lives in a town with the same issue (no local PD, resident Trooper Town, etc).Hope this saves someone from the same problem.
 
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I have 2 form 4's pending. Do they send the stamp to the dealer or to you? My form 1's for SBRs came to me but I never really asked my dealer when I bought the cans.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anonymous 51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Six months to the day for a can on a trust. Just opened mail box and there the stamp was! </div></div>

So you are the SOT/FFL holder? A form 4 should go to your dealer, not you. </div></div>

Form 1? It would come back to him. </div></div>

He hasn't specified....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KACstealth</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so for my suppressors i am waiting on, will the forms go to my dealer? or to my home address? Thanks </div></div>

Your dealer. A Form 1 would go to you.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TacDriverTactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody currently know how long Form 3 transfers are taking? </div></div>

Read the posts above you. Its been covered like 8 times now.
 
Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TacDriverTactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody currently know how long Form 3 transfers are taking? </div></div>

Read the posts above you. Its been covered like 8 times now. </div></div>
Yes, thanks for the response.
 
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My can is on form 4, my stamp should have went to my dealer but for some reason it came to me. I asked my dealer if this was normal and he said it happens quite often.
 
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Form 4 suppressor
AAC Cyclone 7.62
Pending...12-2-11
Approved..5-16-12
Examiner:Nicole Dudash
State...Pa
Still waiting for my dealer to say Come get it.
5.5 months after approval date
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: anschutz64ms</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Form 4 suppressor
AAC Cyclone 7.62
Pending...12-2-11
Approved..5-16-12
Still waiting for my dealer to say Come get it.
5.5 months after approval date </div></div>

Who is your examiner?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
anschutz64ms said:
Form 4 suppressor
AAC Cyclone 7.62
Pending...12-2-11
Approved..5-16-12
Still waiting for my dealer to say Come get it.
5.5 months after approval date </div></div>

Who is your examiner? [/quote


^^^This, and what state do you live in.
Click to expand...
 
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Curious about what state as well. I am in GA so if the guy is maybe in the footprint for the examiner would like to know as well. My Gemtech Halo went pending the same date as anschutz64ms.
 
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