Suppressors Form 4 wait time

[mlw332]

Re: Form 4 wait time

my understanding was the fact i did not put an address of where the property would be located. i used a trust that i found on google and hoped for the best. after getting rejected i paid the lawyer to amend it

 

[reeljob]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Check cashed 1/25
Pending 2/8
Approved 7/31

Dropped off three barrels to be threaded and going to pick it all up next week. One more week of waiting.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mlw332</div><div class="ubbcode-body">my understanding was the fact i did not put an address of where the property would be located. i used a trust that i found on google and hoped for the best. after getting rejected i paid the lawyer to amend it </div></div>

It must be something for your State since there are numerous trust's that have been accepted without an address on the trust itself.

 

[mlw332]

Re: Form 4 wait time

no idea what all it was rejected for but that was the main issue to my understanding.... dealer said he was looking for less than a month after we amend it

 

[K_4c]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Read the bottom post.... this gent is claiming a 3 month turn time!

I'll believe it when I see it... but I do like hearing these results.

http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=90601&start=25

 

[timesublime]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: normbal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: timesublime</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NFA Item: TBAC 338p-1
Form Type: Form 4
Transfer Type: Indv
Forms Sent: 03/07/12
Check Cashed: ??
Pending Date: 03/15/12
Approved: 07/28/12
Stamp at Dealer: 08/01/12

ONLY 4.5 months from pending to approved, things are speeding up!</div></div>

THAT is freaking awesome. I had a can go pending april 3d. NFAtracker.com "says" I should have my can by EOM August. Who was your examiner? </div></div>

Jason Frushour

 

[clark98ut]

Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA Item: TBAC 30P-1 & Silencerco Sparrow
Form Type: Form 4
Transfer Type: Trust
Forms Sent: 02/11/12
Check Cashed: 02/21/12
Pending Date: 03/16/12
Approved:
Stamp at Dealer: 08/01/12

 

[normbal]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clark98ut</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NFA Item: TBAC 30P-1 & Silencerco Sparrow
Form Type: Form 4
Transfer Type: Trust
Forms Sent: 02/11/12
Check Cashed: 02/21/12
Pending Date: 03/16/12
Approved:
Stamp at Dealer: 08/01/12</div></div>

"Holy shit" - John Blutarsky

Have you posted these data on nfatracker.com?
Who was your examiner?

 

[red6actual]

Re: Form 4 wait time

I never let anyone handle the paperwork, I do all the leg work myself and submit via certified mail, that way at least I know it went out.

A friend had the same problem, dealer says they will handle it and a year later he still does not have his can but al least it is pending in the system now.

 

[clark98ut]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: normbal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clark98ut</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NFA Item: TBAC 30P-1 & Silencerco Sparrow
Form Type: Form 4
Transfer Type: Trust
Forms Sent: 02/11/12
Check Cashed: 02/21/12
Pending Date: 03/16/12
Approved:
Stamp at Dealer: 08/01/12</div></div>

"Holy shit" - John Blutarsky

Have you posted these data on nfatracker.com?
Who was your examiner?</div></div>

Yep, it's posted on NFA tracker. I think it's Sara Jones, but don't quote me on that.

 

[mis-guided child2]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Form 4, sixth months 1day. Got my stamp in today! Sara Jones did mine.

 

[308crosshairs]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mis-guided child2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Form 4, sixth months 1day. Got my stamp in today! Sara Jones did mine. </div></div>

Same here, six months to the day.

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Form 4 - Suppressor
Trust

Pending: 2-29-12
Approved: 8-03-12
Forms in hand: ?

 

[dps50]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 3DHUSKER</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alan_H</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dps50</div><div class="ubbcode-body">1. NFA Item: Cyclone
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent: <span style="color: #FF0000">02/10/12</span>
5. Money Order Cashed: <span style="color: #FF0000">02/22/12</span>
6. Pending Date:
7. Approved Date: <span style="color: #FF0000">07/29/12</span>
8. Forms Received: <span style="color: #FF0000">08/08/12</span>
9. Examiner: Sara Jones

1. NFA Item: SBR
2. Form Type: Form 1
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent: <span style="color: #FF0000">02/10/12</span>
5. Money Order Cashed: <span style="color: #CC0000">02/22/12</span>
6. Pending Date:
7. Approved Date: <span style="color: #FF0000">07/29/12</span>
8. Forms Received: <span style="color: #FF0000">08/06/12</span>
9. Examiner: Sara Jones

1. NFA Item: Kodiak TL
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Individual
4. Forms Sent:
5. Money Order Cashed: <span style="color: #FF0000">03/14/12</span>
6. Pending Date: <span style="color: #FF0000">03/29/12</span>
7. Approved Date:
8. Forms Received:
9. Examiner:

Now the hardest part...the wait. Already lining up another can to hit by xmas. </div></div>

it took over a year to cash the MO or typo? </div></div>

At that rate you will be golden in 4 years.

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LOL sh!t. No, 2012 not 2011

Still waiting on the form 4 stamp to arrive. Got the SBR stamp yesterday.

 

[dvdt]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: TBAC 30P-1
2. Form Type: Form4
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Forms Sent: 3 Aug
5. Check Cashed: 9 Aug
6. Pending Date: 22 Aug
7. Approved Date:
8. Forms Received:
9. Examiner: Sara Jones

A little depressed but looking forward to my first can in ~6 months.

 

[normbal]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Form 4 - Suppressor
Trust

Pending: 2-29-12
Approved: 8-03-12
Forms in hand: ?

</div></div>


THAT's reassuring. Pending date's just a couple days behind mine.

I miss the days of 37 day turnaround times.

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

normbal..... wont matter since we are in different states and you use a different examiner. Some are faster then others and some having better assistants then others, which is apparent.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">normbal..... wont matter since we are in different states and you use a different examiner. Some are faster then others and some having better assistants then others, which is apparent.


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Or some pick up a box and look through them real quick only to say... "let's try that box back there, it looks like less work."? Lol...

 

[RedGoat]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Don't remember exact dates, but submitted in early Sept got it back in late Feb. Took roughly 6 months.

The suppressor = $1200
The stamp = $200
The wait = 6 months
Having the suppressor = priceless

 

[normbal]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">normbal..... wont matter since we are in different states and you use a different examiner. Some are faster then others and some having better assistants then others, which is apparent. </div></div>

Yeah, well, I'll just go back to sitting by the phone again, waiting for my FFL to call.

My examiner is Dana Pickles. H'es been pretty fast in years past. You never know.

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

I've got Dana as well.... you might be in luck then. Althought I called the day it was approved and they said it was still pending. It took 3 days for it to show up in the system as approved

 

[K_4c]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've got Dana as well.... you might be in luck then. Althought I called the day it was approved and they said it was still pending. It took 3 days for it to show up in the system as approved

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So how did you know it was approved? I thought calling them was the only means of obtaining such information....

side note here, has anyone had Mr. Shipman (William) as their examiner? NFA tracker had nothing current on his turn times. Just curious....

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

I called them and asked...

Shipman is the worst examiner they have.... good luck with him!

 

[Gray]

Re: Form 4 wait time

And so it begins!! The next 6 months is going to feel like 12...

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Interesting...

 

[K_4c]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I called them and asked...

Shipman is the worst examiner they have.... good luck with him! </div></div>

You ever get the feeling like it wasn't meant to be.... well thats how I feel. Could I assume 6 months or is he way behind the power curve?

thanks for checking KYS338.

 

[1911GunNut]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: SWR HEMS II
2. Form Type: Form4
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Forms Sent: 2/10/12
5. Check Cashed: 2/21/12
6. Forms received by Dealer: 8/9/12

6 months, right at the running average.

 

[GUNNER75]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Good news and bad today.............


BAD:
NFA Item: SF FA556-212 & FA762K
Form 4
Transfer Type: Individual
Forms Sent: 2-27-12
Check Cashed:3-7-12
Pending:?
SOT Receives Compliance signature error:8-8-12
SOT Resend Compliance paperwork: 8-8-12
Approved:
Stamps Received:
Examiner:

So on the 762 my SOT received an error notification on the compliance sheet. I missed a signature???? I would have bet the farm on that one. Not sure why I missed it and he did as well prior to mailing it in.

GOOD:
My Osprey 45 came in so I can get that paperwork and process going!

 

[Killer Spade 13]

Re: Form 4 wait time

One of the basic tenets of business (read: job security), the amount of time required to complete a task is equal to, or greater than, the amount of time given for its completion.

If the examiners start to complete too many forms too soon, then it can be deduced that the amount of time required to complete a form is less than anticipated . . . therefore, the governing body could surmise, with certain logic, that fewer examiners could do the same amount of work. Now you guys aren't stupid, so you can see where this will lead, eventually . . . .

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Killer Spade 13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One of the basic tenets of business (read: job security), the amount of time required to complete a task is equal to, or greater than, the amount of time given for its completion.

If the examiners start to complete too many forms too soon, then it can be deduced that the amount of time required to complete a form is less than anticipated . . . therefore, the governing body could surmise, with certain logic, that fewer examiners could do the same amount of work. Now you guys aren't stupid, so you can see where this will lead, eventually . . . . </div></div>

Yeah, but aren't they by law supposed to be turning these around within no more than 90 days? I was told that's why they got dragged in front of Congress about it, but maybe that was just a rumor.

 

[Garvey]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: SUPRESSOR
2. Form Type: Form4
3. Transferee Type: INDIVIDUAL
4. Forms Sent: JULY 30
5. Check Cashed: AUG 6
6. Pending Date: ?
7. Approved Date: ?
8. Forms Received:?
9. Examiner:?

I havn't called yet. Guess I will tomorrow. I've already accepted the fact that I probably won't get my hands on my suppressor until January.

Wonder if having the Chief of Police in my community endorse it, and that fact that I'm a carrer fireman will speed up the process? HA, FAT CHANCE!

 

[KYS]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Garvey</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> 1. NFA Item: SUPRESSOR
2. Form Type: Form4
3. Transferee Type: INDIVIDUAL
4. Forms Sent: JULY 30
5. Check Cashed: AUG 6
6. Pending Date: ?
7. Approved Date: ?
8. Forms Received:?
9. Examiner:?

I havn't called yet. Guess I will tomorrow. I've already accepted the fact that I probably won't get my hands on my suppressor until January.

Wonder if having the Chief of Police in my community endorse it, and that fact that I'm a carrer fireman will speed up the process? HA, FAT CHANCE!
</div></div>

Hate to burst your bubble but they don't go pending 3 days after being cashed.... I'd give it 4-6 weeks, then call and ask.

 

[loki*hunter]

Re: Form 4 wait time

The only sage advice I can provide after being through the form 4 process four times is.....use a reputable dealer that has the can in stock.....my 15 month process ..... 7 for the ATF and 8 for the thieving class III dealer who took my money and didn't order the cans until I got AAC and the ATF involved....don't make the same mistake I did.

 

[Garvey]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Guess I was thinking I'd make sure my documents were in order but I bet they pulled the check out and that's as far as it went. I'll leave it alone.

 

[bob6117]

Re: Form 4 wait time

NFA Item: suppressor
Form type: 4
transferee type: Individual
Form sent: Feb. 15
Check cashed: Feb 22
Pending: Mar 8
Approved July 30
form received: Aug 7
Examiner: Dudash

 

[reeljob]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: reeljob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check cashed 1/25
Pending 2/8
Approved 7/31

Dropped off three barrels to be threaded and going to pick it all up next week. One more week of waiting. </div></div>
Picked up my can and rifles today. Crazy cool is all I can say. This is my first can and I am amazed. No one in the house even realized I was shooting my .260 in the backyard and with the adapter I ran it on my .22 with subsonic and all I could hear was the firing pin and bullet impact. The seven month wait was worth it all!

 

[aziator]

Re: Form 4 wait time

I am getting ready to start the process all over again, hopefully all the summer temp hires will help the times get better.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: SF FA762SS-DE
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Forms Sent: 4 Aug 2012
5. Check Cashed: 13 Aug 2012
6. Pending Date: TBD
7. Approved Date: TBD
8. Forms Received: TBD
9. Examiner: Sandra Snook

 

[The Lawn Ranger]

Re: Form 4 wait time

TBAC 30p-1
Trust
went pending: 3.5.12
approved: 8.3.12

 

[Lead Heads]

Re: Form 4 wait time

The LONG wait begins:
1. NFA Items: RPG T1000 & RPG 22
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Forms Sent: 7 Aug 2012
5. Check Cashed: 27 Aug 2012
6. Pending Date: TBD
7. Approved Date: TBD
8. Forms Received: TBD
9. Examiner: Mr.Lamberger

 

[SSG3K]

Re: Form 4 wait time

First can is done pending 3-29-12 approved 8-14-12 pick it up saturday cant wait.

Rich

 

[mlw332]

Re: Form 4 wait time

8 months until my stamp came

 

[K_4c]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mlw332</div><div class="ubbcode-body">8 months until my stamp came </div></div>

who was your examiner? when did it go pending?

 

[TKellogg]

Re: Form 4 wait time

1. NFA Item: YHM 308 SS THREAD ON
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: INDIVIDUAL
4. Forms Sent: 3-16-12
5. Check Cashed: 3-23-12
6. Pending Date: 4-17-12
7. Approved Date: TBD
8. Forms Received: TBD
9. Examiner: CHRIS FARRIS??

I'm hoping I'm almost there based on SSG3K

 

[wfjames22]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tkellogg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm hoping I'm almost there based on SSG3K </div></div>

Me too! I have two that went pending on 4/17 as well.

 

[mlw332]

Re: Form 4 wait time

Im not sure who mississippi's examiner is. I sent the check in Jan and my stamp came back on Aug 14

 

[K_4c]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mlw332</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im not sure who mississippi's examiner is. I sent the check in Jan and my stamp came back on Aug 14 </div></div>

if you find out let us know.... I have a feeling Missisppi and Nebraska have the same examiner (shippman).

 

[mlw332]

Re: Form 4 wait time

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2011/0...ing-by-atf.html
according to that yes your correct

 

[Hayli277]

Re: Form 4 wait time

6 months

 

[K_4c]

Re: Form 4 wait time

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mlw332</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2011/0...ing-by-atf.html
according to that yes your correct </div></div>

Figured.... damn it.