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State vs State... Who would win?

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This topic was posted in a local forum up here. Could've been posted before but I'm too lazy today to search through Google. After all the post-election succession agenda I thought this would be a nice comical break.

The Question:

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">If there was a U.S. civil war, and each state had to use its own citizens and resources to fight other states (and no alliances with other states), which state would survive and win?</span></span>
 
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Leave it to Texas to strike first... lol

I should have added a damn poll. I never remember that shit until after. Frank you need to make it so we can add a poll to the OP after the fact for retards like me, lol...
 
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I would think one of the midwest states that has a bunch of minuteman missiles. If they could break the security interlocks on them they could glass everyone else.
 
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I read the article a few hours ago. The result was that TX and OK would drive the ass kicking but AK did some major ass kicking of it's own and fared very well because of it's resources and isolation. I won't give up all the details for the sake of this thread but it was an interesting article to read.

Hint: it's not just about firepower and some of the states we all hate were right up there.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wolvenhaven</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think one of the midwest states that has a bunch of minuteman missiles. If they could break the security interlocks on them they could glass everyone else. </div></div>
Will those states have the electicity to fire them?

I'm impressed broker.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I read the article a few hours ago. The result was that TX and OK would drive the ass kicking but AK did some major ass kicking of it's own and fared very well because of it's resources and isolation. I won't give up all the details for the sake of this thread but it was an interesting article to read.

Hint: it's not just about firepower and some of the states we all hate were right up there. </div></div>

Could you post the link? Google fu is weak.
 
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Don't think any one state, with or without control, would have the stones to nuke a component of the current or former US unless it were completely compromised by something monstrously horrible from within, or more likely from without.

However, ask yourself, who's got the grooviest units in their state NG system?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/56th_Stryker_Brigade_Combat_Team
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't think any one state, with or without control, would have the stones to nuke a component of the current or former US unless it were completely compromised by something monstrously horrible from within, or more likely from without.</div></div>
There's not many day out of the year we could nuke AL, west wind and all...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 50calcruiser</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I read the article a few hours ago. The result was that TX and OK would drive the ass kicking but AK did some major ass kicking of it's own and fared very well because of it's resources and isolation. I won't give up all the details for the sake of this thread but it was an interesting article to read.

Hint: it's not just about firepower and some of the states we all hate were right up there. </div></div>

Could you post the link? Google fu is weak. </div></div>
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Hypothetical Battles: If every state of the USA declared war against each other, which would win?
All 50 of the states in America each declared independence, and all simultaneously declared war on each other (50 states in a free-for-all).

Which state would be the last one standing? How would the battle play out? Which states would be the first to fall, the last?</span>

http://www.quora.com/Hypothetical-Battle...which-would-win <span style="color: #FF0000"><--Full story here.</span>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: milo-2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wolvenhaven</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think one of the midwest states that has a bunch of minuteman missiles. If they could break the security interlocks on them they could glass everyone else. </div></div>
Will those states have the electicity to fire them?

<span style="text-decoration: line-through">I'm impressed broker.</span> </div></div>

They also have to take into account existing military forces within each State. Although we fucking hate CA they do have Pendleton, Coronado, San Diego, 29 Palms, etc etc. You're comment about electricity though brings a good point. States like WA & CA provide a LOT of power to the rest of the state. Then there's the issue of fossil fuels and the pipeline States that could cut the supplies.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hypothetical Battles: If every state of the USA declared war against each other, which would win?
All 50 of the states in America each declared independence, and all simultaneously declared war on each other (50 states in a free-for-all).

Which state would be the last one standing? How would the battle play out? Which states would be the first to fall, the last?[/b]

http://www.quora.com/Hypothetical-Battle...which-would-win <span style="color: #FF0000"><--Full story here.</span> </div></div>

I never saw that article HB, but thanks for putting that up. I'll read through it...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MtnCreek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't think any one state, with or without control, would have the stones to nuke a component of the current or former US unless it were completely compromised by something monstrously horrible from within, or more likely from without.</div></div>
There's not many day out of the year we could nuke AL, west wind and all... </div></div>

One word... "Fallout".
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> States like WA & CA provide a LOT of power to the rest of the state. Then there's the issue of fossil fuels and the pipeline States that could cut the supplies.</div></div>

Where are you getting this from? Everything I've ever read says CA can't provide enough power for it self. LA gets most of it's power from Hoover Dam, per the the tour guide as I recall. Yes they have Diablo Canyon and San Onofre(broken, I believe)but that's clearly not cutting it. See rolling blackouts. There are dirty whore windmills going up everywhere in OK, ruining my deer hunting, guess where all that subsidized power is being transmitted to: <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Click to reveal.. <input type="button" class="form-button" value="Show me!" onclick="toggle_spoiler(this, 'Yikes, my eyes!', 'Show me!')" /></div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div style="display: none;">Commiefornia!</div></div></div>
 
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With the lack of industry, I think WY will fold quickly.
But I see a whole load of "Wolverines" gearing up !
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ColdBoreMiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Texans would win all the way up to the frostline. Then stop. </div></div>

If Texans had to leave the state to fight..... they are fu****!! Might not do so well in that high altitude and freezing cold temps of CO and etc.
 
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The North Idaho Milita would beat all of your sorry asses.

They was on TV:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/idaho-mi...40#.ULULtOT7LQ0


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These are proper tactics son:

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HAHAA, Alaska is already dug in! You have to kill your way through the Canadians to get to us, We have oil/gas/timber/fish/gold/coal/ect... I think we even have uranium!
 
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Wyoming hasn't got enough people to raise a ruckus on a barrel of indian whiskey, we'd be sucking.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 50calcruiser</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> States like WA & CA provide a LOT of power to the rest of the state. Then there's the issue of fossil fuels and the pipeline States that could cut the supplies.</div></div>

Where are you getting this from? Everything I've ever read says CA can't provide enough power for it self. LA gets most of it's power from Hoover Dam, per the the tour guide as I recall. Yes they have Diablo Canyon and San Onofre(broken, I believe)but that's clearly not cutting it. See rolling blackouts. There are dirty whore windmills going up everywhere in OK, ruining my deer hunting, guess where all that subsidized power is being transmitted to: <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Click to reveal.. <input type="button" class="form-button" value="Show me!" onclick="toggle_spoiler(this, 'Yikes, my eyes!', 'Show me!')" /></div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div style="display: none;">Commiefornia!</div></div></div> </div></div>

I was making assumptions based on the Hoover Dam which I forgot is not actually in CA but on the Colorado/Nevada border, so my bad man.

I found this site since you made me get off my lazy ass and google 50cal, lol...
http://www.eia.gov/beta/state/?sid=WA

As for Washington though we provide power to several states. The Coulee Dam is the largest hydroelectric dam in the US and we provide 29% of the Nations net electricity. We're also in the top 10 for crude oil refining capacity and net generation of electricity from wind energy.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskaman 11</div><div class="ubbcode-body">HAHAA, Alaska is already dug in! You have to kill your way through the Canadians to get to us, We have oil/gas/timber/fish/gold/coal/ect... I think we even have uranium! </div></div>
Other than meat and fish, how's your food supply, with all your dairy farms and wheat fields.
That uranium is going to be pretty tasty in a sammich!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kraigWY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wyoming hasn't got enough people to raise a ruckus on a barrel of indian whiskey, we'd be sucking. </div></div>

well then move back home!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> These are proper tactics son:

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Hi diddle diddle, straight up the middle!
 
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I think people also forget that WA has 2 sides to it and the nation relies heavily upon our crops and timber. We've also have Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Fairchild, the Yakima Training Center, Puget Sound Naval Shipyard, and Bangor Base. Can you say flat tops, boomers, the transportation to mobilize resources.
 
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Remember, most of your troops are from out of state, they will fly their planes, drive their tanks to their home state, or die trying. Your crops and timber won't be for sale to your enemies, and you will run out of oil.

Hell, I can see some dickhead trying to get his ship back to South Dakota???
And broker, good luck mobilizing your Asian Quicky mart, and hotel owners and emproyee's, your highway system is really gonna be workin for ya!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: milo-2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Remember, most of your troops are from out of state, they will fly their planes, drive their tanks to their home state, or die trying. Your crops and timber won't be for sale to your enemies, and you will run out of oil.

Hell, I can see some dickhead trying to get his ship back to South Dakota???
And broker, good luck mobilizing your Asian Quicky mart, and hotel owners and emproyee's, your highway system is really gonna be workin for ya! </div></div>

Except for the fact that most of those soldiers, sailors, etc live here and have families here as well. 30K+ retirees alone live within 50 miles of Lewis. And PSNS has multiple carriers in mothballs that can be refitted by the workers and used. I don't know exactly what you're second part about Asian Quicky mar<span style="color: #FF0000">t</span> or hotel owners and employees has to do with this and it doesn't really make sense dude? As for your planes and boats a major portion are manufactured and maintained here, so what are you gonna do when they break down? Our highway infrastructure sucks but our rail lines, airways, and harbor freight is one of the best thanks to the Port of Tacoma, Port of Seattle, Boeing, and McChord.

Add: Do you really see guys trying to pack up their families and crossing multiple State lines all feuding with each other just so they can get back to their home state?
 
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Virginia, cause they've got me.
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Might be a few good subs in WA state too. Never underestimate the power of a nuclear sub.

Of course, Seattle will be a huge drain on the infrastructure and will in no way contribute.
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Come to think of it - it would be hard for the red/blue rivalries in both Oregon and Washington to resist their own internal civil wars.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PBinWA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Might be a few good subs in WA state too. Never underestimate the power of a nuclear sub.

Of course, Seattle will be a huge drain on the infrastructure and will in no way contribute.
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Ain't that the fuckin truth. But the good news is they'll devour each other when they run out of Starbucks. I can drive 10 minutes to the Boomers, but lets be realistic. No one is going to be retarded enough to nuke a possible acquisition and risk the fallout coming back at them. Except maybe Alaska or Hawaii because they figure it won't reach them anyways lol...
 
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OR has Umatilla Army Depot. This is where the US stores all of it's chemical weapons. So, that would be a real bitch if someone was to use those weapons in a made up battle.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know exactly what you're second part about <span style="font-weight: bold">Asian Quicky Mary</span> ...</div></div>

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Come visit the PNW ... again and again and again!
 
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Dick...
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in my own defense the "y" is next to the "t"...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I was making assumptions based on the Hoover Dam which I forgot is not actually in CA but on the Colorado/Nevada border, so my bad man.
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Where exactly do Colorado and Nevada border each other?
 
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Ok, I surrender.
But by the looks of the Idaho militia, if I lived in WA, I'd be jumping on a boat headed for Japan or somewhere. They were pretty deadly on stationary targets.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ColdBoreMiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I was making assumptions based on the Hoover Dam which I forgot is not actually in CA but on the Colorado/Nevada border, so my bad man.
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Where exactly do Colorado and Nevada border each other? </div></div>

I didn't want to be the one to point it out. I think he was thinking Colorado River.
 
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Ya'll 'r crazy.

Canada would just sit back, and watch as all the "feuding cousins at a family reunion", then come down and smack-the-shit outta whoever declared themselves the 'victor'. Then, we'd mobilize our Northern Back-Up (Alaska) and come down to build a wall, then a moat, and then another wall between our new Southern Boarder and that 'place further south'.

There's the Suez Canal in the Middle East. The Panama Canal way down South. Then there's the Erie Canal up here's. So we'll just call that new one connecting the Gulf with the Pacific, the "Hummina-hummina-hummina Canal". Cause ya'll just got fucked.

Canada! We'll own the world. One Continent at a time!

G'head, you start. We're just waiting patiently.....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 50calcruiser</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ColdBoreMiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I was making assumptions based on the Hoover Dam which I forgot is not actually in CA but on the Colorado/Nevada border, so my bad man.
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Where exactly do Colorado and Nevada border each other? </div></div>

I didn't want to be the one to point it out. I think he was thinking Colorado River. </div></div>

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Someone bring me a cup of fuckin coffee cause I'm getting my ass kicked...
 
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Am I stuck with KS? Which ones will join in together? I would think I would head north and hope like hell I don't drift too far towards the either coast!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The West coast was now controlled by the two main powers--California with it's seat of power in San Francisco <span style="font-weight: bold">and The North East Union centered in Seattle</span>. California gained support and taken control of all the states West of the Continental Divide and South of the Union. The North East Union pushed as far as Wyoming.</div></div>

Tell the writer not to give up his day job until he can spare the jingle for a crack team of editors ...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ColdBoreMiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I was making assumptions based on the Hoover Dam which I forgot is not actually in CA but on the Colorado/Nevada border, so my bad man.
</div></div>Where exactly do Colorado and Nevada border each other? </div></div>

The border between Nevada and Colorado is called Utah.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MilsurpShooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well New York has West Point... nahh too many officers we'd invade Canada, nevermind. </div></div>

I thought Canada was the 51st State?
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Just messing with our Canadian brothers, best neighbors anyone could ever ask for!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No one is going to be retarded enough to nuke a possible acquisition and risk the fallout coming back at them. Except maybe Alaska or Hawaii because they figure it won't reach them anyways lol... </div></div>

Fortunately the prevailing winds tend to blow East.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">If there was a U.S. civil war, and each state had to use its own citizens and resources to fight other states (and no alliances with other states), which state would survive and win?</span></span></div></div>

My money would be on Montana, North Dakota or Wyoming because that's where most of the Minute Man II missles are.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter McGavin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OR has Umatilla Army Depot. This is where the US stores all of it's chemical weapons. So, that would be a real bitch if someone was to use those weapons in a made up battle. </div></div>

There's a good amount of sarin, VX and mustard gas in Richmond KY, so the Bluegrass state has that going for it, which is nice.

And no way in <span style="font-style: italic">Hell</span> Indiana ends up under Illinois/Chicago's thumb...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 168BTHPM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My money would be on Montana, North Dakota or Wyoming because that's where most of the Minute Man II missles are. </div></div>
I may be wrong, but I think WY only has Peacekeeper missles, the ones with 10 warheads on them. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoilerUP</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter McGavin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OR has Umatilla Army Depot. This is where the US stores all of it's chemical weapons. So, that would be a real bitch if someone was to use those weapons in a made up battle. </div></div>

There's a good amount of sarin, VX and mustard gas in Richmond KY, so the Bluegrass state has that going for it, which is nice.

And no way in <span style="font-style: italic">Hell</span> Indiana ends up under Illinois/Chicago's thumb...</div></div>

Yep...and we have the 101st, bourbon, and lots of people that already live grid down LOL. Not sure we could conquer the other states but I guarantee these hillbillies won't give in to anyone! We could just tell em revenuers are on the way...and that they are Duke fans...that should be about as good as a Minuteman III
 
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PNW has electrical power, diverse natural resources and a well developed manufacturing infrastructure, extensive military assets that would likely stay local to the region, diverse agricultural development, significant physical geography that would assist in the defense of the region. I think PNW would do pretty well in any sort of Red Dawn/Jericho/civil war situation
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CE1371</div><div class="ubbcode-body">PNW has electrical power, diverse natural resources and a well developed manufacturing infrastructure, extensive military assets that would likely stay local to the region, diverse agricultural development, significant physical geography that would assist in the defense of the region. I think PNW would do pretty well in any sort of Red Dawn/Jericho/civil war situation </div></div>

The only problem with the PNW is the lack of population. If it came down to conventional warfare the best it could do is put up a nasty resistance. Also, Seattle and Portland will just roll-over at the first sign of defeat.
 
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Vermont is already training...

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Cheers,

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