How many more deaths will it take?

[match-grade]

To get people to learn how to drive?

<span style="font-weight: bold">1000 deaths so far on the road in Tennessee this year.</span>

Sorry for baiting. Just wanted to point out that in my state of Tennessee, along the interstates, there are these electronic signs that show certain types of traffic info.

When nothing too serious is going on, they show the recent traffic death count. Kind of morbid, but makes me drive more carefully and much more defensively.

As of yesterday, it was 1000 this year. 1000 deaths while driving around. How come no one makes an big federal car banning issue out of this? Driving is not an inalienable right.

 

[Maggot]

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Thats really high. Just think, tonights NY eve...could go up significantly. Im jesting largely, but as one who travels I 40 in E.Tennessee reguarly, Id say some of it may come from a NASCAR mentality. Seems worst from Knoxville to Bristol...people seem to just drive stupid, and really fast. I had a guy pass me on the right shoulder and I was doing 75...if Id had a gun I might have shot his dumb ass.

 

[match-grade]

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Yeah, driving though Knoxville is pretty crazy sometimes. During holidays, the trip up to exit 407 (gatlitburg area) is really bad. Chapman Highway, Alcoa Highway and Clinton Highway are rough, and I try to avoid them.

Our driving culture/gun culture is becoming very third world. Actually, it more like the value we place on life. If you look at how third world countries treat human life, we are no better, as whole. Sure, that's a pretty broad brush, but its true.

Look at how we treat people from the moment of conception to their dying breath. The Gov't looks at us as just a paycheck. And it's trickle down from there. Hollywood gives us more of what we demand: violence. Same with the gaming industry. If I were a parent, I would never allow games in my house. Cable TV would be a big no-no too.

I remember watching news as a kid, seeing all the bad stuff in S. America and Africa during all the proxi-wars with the USSR. My Dad would talk to me about it, since he was in the Army. Funny thing though, my parents would not let us watch violent movies. I guess I grew up with the understanding of the difference between fake and real.

As for driving: when I see some asshole driving around with a cell phone, or eating or digging around on the radio, it scares the hell out of me. Yeah, I'm a hypocrite, since i do it too. We all need to turn off and stop multitasking.

1000+ deaths on the road people. Wake up.

 

[Downrange1x]

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1,000 Dead this year in your state alone add up the other states and I don't see POTUS or Feinstein, Biden jumping up and down all over national TV wanting to ban Chevy's, Ford's or Toyota's which ever brand was the drivers choice of death machine!!! But one more fool with a Black Gun!!

 

[match-grade]

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Looks like 2011 had 32,000 plus deaths. Shameful.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thats really high. Just think, tonights NY eve...</div></div>
I take it that you're getting a REAL GOOD HEAD START on everyone,,,, eh?

 

[Slapchop]

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Ban roadways

 

[Varmint_Poontang]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ban roadways </div></div>
Roadways will always be an important part of America's history and future, but there is no reason anyone needs to use a high volume road or one attached to a large capacity parking lot.

 

[E. Bryant]

Re: How many more deaths will it take?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: match-grade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Driving is not an inalienable right. </div></div>

Sorry to take an off-topic excursion, but if one buys into the concept of "liberty" as articulated in the Declaration that "liberty", then the ability to move myself from Point A to Point B using whatever conveyance I choose (foot, horse, car, teleportation) becomes an inalienable right.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: match-grade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Our driving culture/gun culture is becoming very third world. Actually, it more like the value we place on life. If you look at how third world countries treat human life, we are no better, as whole. Sure, that's a pretty broad brush, but its true.</div></div>

WTF? On a per-mile basis, this past year was the safest ever on the roadways since records started in 1949 - approximately one fatality per <span style="font-style: italic">100 million miles driven</span>. That is a shockingly low number, and a real testament to any number of measures that have been put into place to make driving safer. There are literally billions of dollars spent each year in the form of vehicle engineering and production costs, driver training, road design and maintenance, and traffic law enforcement that contributes to this low rate. I don't see any "third world" attitude towards highway safety.

Now, there is a natural human response to increased safety that often leads to a sort of nonchalance about the inherent danger of the activity, and that leads to some individual behavior that can be quite disturbing. But as a whole, driving is incredibly safe.

 

[EddieNFL]

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I don't care if they ban Chevys or Fords, but they will have to pry my cold dead hands from the steering wheel in my Toyota.

 

[Maggot]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EddieNFL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't care if they ban Chevys or Fords, but they will have to pry my cold dead hands from the steering wheel in my Toyota.

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Or my E320 CDI

 

[marduk185]

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these nasty automobiles need to be limited to holding one passenger at a time and we need to be sure that every car or truck owner has a certified safe garage to lock down these terrible killers. also better require every tire tread have a registered number cut in so as to clearly identify the driver by tread marks on all ran over victims. actually public safety may be best served if all automobiles are stored safely in a city maintained and controlled parking garage and only allowed to be checked out by the owners if they show valid intent to travel outside urban auto-free zones. join with me in these common sense solutions to all the carnage.

 

[HD1911]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: marduk185</div><div class="ubbcode-body">these nasty automobiles need to be limited to holding one passenger at a time and we need to be sure that every car or truck owner has a certified safe garage to lock down these terrible killers. also better require every tire tread have a registered number cut in so as to clearly identify the driver by tread marks on all ran over victims. actually public safety may be best served if all automobiles are stored safely in a city maintained and controlled parking garage and only allowed to be checked out by the owners if they show valid intent to travel outside urban auto-free zones. join with me in these common sense solutions to all the carnage. </div></div>

Lol...nice!

 

[opelboy]

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i wonder, just out of curiosity, what the ratio of total # of cars/total car deaths is compared to total # of firearms/total firearm related deaths?

 

[Sean the Nailer]

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Marduk,

I'll join you ONLY if you add the requirement to Prove sobriety Before the application to check out a vehicle is processed and approved.

It's for the kids.

 

[E. Bryant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: opelboy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i wonder, just out of curiosity, what the ratio of total # of cars/total car deaths is compared to total # of firearms/total firearm related deaths? </div></div>

In 2009:

Gun deaths: 31,236 (10.19 per 100,000)
Automobile deaths: 36,361 (11.87 per 100,000)

Roughly a third of those gun deaths are homicides, nearly two-thirds are murders, and the remaining few percent are deemed to be accidents (how many of those are actually suicides is a mystery, but I have an opinion).

Interestingly enough, there are ten states where firearm deaths were more common than automobile deaths in 2009:

Deaths by auto have sharply dropped in the past seven years, but that is largely due to technical solutions (safer products). Gun deaths are vastly due to human behavior, not product safety defects, so there is not a obvious technological approach as is the case with passenger cars.

 

[sdelorge24]

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Match I live in TN too, these people are retarded, alot of them are kids that get drunk/high and go driving down the damn mountain 6 deep in a single cab pickup. They pull out in front of you and drive 15 below the speed limit daily.

Car deaths in TN are 3x the deaths in Afghanistan this year. And no one is shooting at you in TN (unless your on grundy mountain)