Wait.. January 2018 Hancock orders have not all been filled yet or just regular actions?
My JHR is/was a January 2018 order (order # 1953). It has not been filled yet. But I am sure it will be with this batch of actions.
That is completely unacceptable to me and should be unacceptable to PVA as well. When I ordered in early April of 2018, I was under the impression that I would be receiving my JHR in late August, maybe Sept. In Sept , I contacted Josh and asked when I would receive my rifle, he then explained to me that if they received the ATF variance soon (they received it the day after we spoke) that I should receive my JHR the first couple weeks of DEC. Its now Jan, and I have no clue when order number 2390 will be filled, more importantly, neither does PVA. Its disheartening to hear that guys can order directly from ARC and receive an action, LH to boot, in a month. If there's a problem between ARC and PVA, PVA should be up front with us and provide an explaination. We also deserve a reasonable time frame as to when we will receive our orders.
Thats bad news
Course.. I am crossing my fingers for next winter for a Left Handed Unicorn JCH.
I would be open to working out a swap on my Nucleus BA with PVA for an Origin. When I ordered the reason I went with the Nucleus was the earlier release date
Let's just be crystal clear here, because your post is a pretty big misrepresentation of the situation. This isn't people upset with ARC just because because they're entitled and "want it now".
I think we might be saying the same thing here, that the frustration shouldn't be towards PVA but instead towards the vendor that keeps delaying shipment of actions.
I think this will be a "learning lesson" for everyone involved, myself included. If you look at Larue and their beginnings, Mark suffered the same issues PVA is encountering with ARC, relying on vendors is not always reliable. Little by little, part by part, Mark Larue builds almost everything in house, if not everything (related to his rifles) to avoid outside vendor issues. Looking at PVA's instagram posts, they are teching up too and will most likely be less dependent on others in the future thus avoiding situations like this in the future. I guarantee that when the Larue Siete is available that Mark Larue won't be waiting on anything but the stock (maybe) to finish out the rifle. PVA can learn a lot from a Co. like Larue. I know, I know, M. Larue is either loved or hated, I am only mentioninh Larue because PVA can learn a lot from a Co. that started where they are now and overcame the small co-big growth obstacle.
just think, could have been an Origin with a cut rifled barrel. Or button rifled and 2 mags
You don't need ATF marking variances to ship standard Nucleus actions to PVA for the pre-ordered barreled actions. Nobody is talking about the John Hancock actions here, they're talking about barreled actions they ordered in January that have taken a backseat to the bare actions people ordered from ARC directly in June-October that have already arrived while those meant for barreled action pre-orders (which are not marked as John Hancock actions) have mysteriously failed to ship from ARC to PVA.
Ive been following this thread from the beginning and I never once noticed a post from ARC saying they were going to work PVA's orders for the Nucleus actions into their order que by date and time the order was placed. All this information came from PVA. It seems to me that PVA tried speaking for ARC too much throughout this process and its coming back to haunt them. Im sure the guys at PVA are just as frustrated as everyone else.
That post was made by PVA not ARC... thats my point, PVA was speaking for ARC.
Yes, but was that based on info from ARC?
No way to know since ARC never stated themselves that was the plan.
