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300 PRC update

I'd take any data guys have on the 230 A-Tips with RL26 also... Even though my Bugholes rifle was shooting the factory Hornady Match 225 into one ragged hole. But why not waste time that I am already short on!

If I had some RL26 I would gladly give you some load data....since your rifle and my rifle were chambered in most likely the exact same reamer. Mine may have been the first chamber cut with that reamer...but it was made for that 225gr ELD-M. The geometery of the 230gr A-Tip is slightly different but I didn't see much difference between the muzzle velocity between the two...but the difference in BC had me smiling....and the accuracy was wonderful....on both.

I may do <1000yds....225 ELD-M..... >1000 230gr A-Tips...
 
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Testing 212s with RL26 28" Bartlien barrel 1:9 CCI BR primers basic case prep. Worked up tp 81 grns of 26 3200 had light ejector mark no stiff bolt. One ragged hole super low SD. Im going to do another ladder and look for a lower node in the 3100s.
 
Testing 212s with RL26 28" Bartlien barrel 1:9 CCI BR primers basic case prep. Worked up tp 81 grns of 26 3200 had light ejector mark no stiff bolt. One ragged hole super low SD. Im going to do another ladder and look for a lower node in the 3100s.

Dang.. That is some HOT stuff and super fast. Guess that's what you will see when your getting close to 5grs over max.
 
According to QL its just a touch over SAAMi max pressure.

I dont use quick load but I would be cautious with those loads. Here is the Hornady data for the PRC.

You are seeing more velocity then max loads on a 300 Norma Magnum with those loads and the 212gr pills.
 

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I dont use quick load but I would be cautious with those loads. Here is the Hornady data for the PRC.

You are seeing more velocity then max loads on a 300 Norma Magnum with those loads and the 212gr pills.
Yup
Another thing weird with this rifle is it shoots factory 212s or 225 @ 3000
 
I’ve got a 6 creed with a 26” barrel that shoots super fast too for some reason. I developed a load with the 112 match burners that was 200 fps faster than their max load. It was at 3150. Dropped it down to 3035. Shoots one hole with an es of 5. Also chronoed with a V3. Cant explain it, but I don’t mind it! Lol
I feel like maybe i shouldnt have posted the speed...i assume everybody knows start waay low and work up. Never use anybody elses numbers as a target. Every rifle is different.
 
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I feel like maybe i shouldnt have posted the speed...i assume everybody knows start waay low and work up. Never use anybody elses numbers as a target. Every rifle is different.

And every Chrono is different :) Wait until you are using an older RCBS and bam!....says your 'hot load' of Retumbo is pushing a 230gr A-Tip 3560fps....you are like... WTF?....then you find out that particular Chrono is FUBAR'd and needs to go. Most of my Chronos agree...well..within 10fps anyway.
 
Question: Anyone else getting pressure rings at the base just above the webbing 1x fired not resized?
 
Got any pictures ?

1x fired - Not resized - Same result on 225 MATCH & reloads w/ virgin brass (except very bottom end of the ladders.) - **1st Pic - Bases are true, that's camera distortion** OEM/Virgin was -.003 to -.004 at the shoulder and 2X was bumping -.002. No material change to the wall thickness on 2X. Finally got to a point I have to start running 3X but I'd like to see what others are experiencing. I've got a lot of experience rolling my own (.308, .223, 300BLK, 6.5CM, 44Mag, 357 Mag) but this my first bottle neck mag. I'm not used to seeing this before resizing and it makes me twitch.
 
What’s the gap between your bolt head and the back of your barrel?
I wish I could answer that with 100% confidence. However, best guess is Tennon 1.503 / Face to Receiver 1.635 so 0.132 +/- with case protrusion .128 +/-. Your question likely just cost me a proper depth mic. :cool: Either way, still just curious how many others are seeing this?
 
Wow.....crickets. Was hoping for some wisdom on this one. Just got done loading seating depth ladders that will be 3x. If I break something I'll let you know.
 
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I'm pushing Hornady brass with over 80gr of Retumbo and a 230gr A-Tip....and I've never had that happen to me....

What's your trim to length?
What FPS you getting and whats your altitude?
 
I'm north of 3040fps and my altitude is about 934 or so feet. Temp was 70F...but MUCH colder now.....go me a coyote yesterday when it was 30F and a 35+mph wind....froze my nuts off...hit him with a 300BO though.

I need to see how much a 40F temp difference makes for Retumbo and the Italian stuff....but I hate being cold...heh
 
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Have you done any load development with the 225 eld?
I have not , to be honest I’m pretty anti-Hornady ..... I’m stuck with the brass until ADG finishes up and the Atips are the only bullet I would use from them. If they didn’t perform I was going to load the Berger’s
 
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Anybody got any speed numbers from a shorter barrel? I’m doing a 21” 30 magnum for a hunting rifle and wondering if I can get a 215 around 2750 with a can from prc
 
I was at sportsmans warehouse yesterday. Pick up and fondled a box of 230 Atips. So pretty! Lol. Wife was with me so put them back. She shit when she saw the price. I’ll have to go back solo.
We have a scheels where I’m at and they have been price matching powder valleys $71.06 price for me !
 
It's hard for me to be too down on Hornady. I've got guns like an AR-10 that none of the Hornady factory ammo can touch the Federal GMM 168s, etc. But on the 300 PRC, the Hornady factory ammo has been pretty damn good. We broke the barrel in at a mile, quickly got on target and it shot consistently. Stepped out to 2400 yards, quickly got on target and it shot consistently. Hard to beat that with factory ammo.

I just picked up a box of A-Tips and look forward to working up a load although I admit I'd rather have better brass than that Hornady putty brass.
 
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Anybody got any speed numbers from a shorter barrel? I’m doing a 21” 30 magnum for a hunting rifle and wondering if I can get a 215 around 2750 with a can from prc

26 inch tube here... 215 berger at 2980 with 79.26 gr of H1k without pressure even though 1gr over max. I would say you should get it without issue. Only one way to find out, right?
 
26 inch tube here... 215 berger at 2980 with 79.26 gr of H1k without pressure even though 1gr over max. I would say you should get it without issue. Only one way to find out, right?
Yeah i just have a ton of 215s and a 10 twist rock creek and want to get full stability. Being at sea level I’m probably right on the edge.

2980 with a 26 is good. Makes me feel like I would be fine
 
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RL-26 right now. I have a stash of h-1000 but am using it on a 6.5 prc. I plan on changing to H-1000 or N570 for the 300 but can’t find it right now.
N570 is not temperature stable i would stick with H1000
 
I will be doing full review here with in a week on RCC brass. Will be receiving brass this week.
Will do full write up and review, if is anything like my friends RCC 338 brass it was better than 338 Lapua brass.
 
I'm pushing Hornady brass with over 80gr of Retumbo and a 230gr A-Tip....and I've never had that happen to me....

What's your trim to length?
Trimming to 2.57" - Starts right above 2750 regardless of 200g or 230g pills. Didn't split a case on 3X despite pushing fairly hard (H1000 - 200s @ 3020 / 230s @ 2870). Hoping it's as simple as the brass. Can't wait for ADG to get up an running so I can find out, RCC just isn't in the budget. We already spun a 2nd barrel trying to resolve. Base to datum first one was on the long side of specs (2.21), new one is on the short side (2.197). Same brass sign on both, cut with two different reamers. Interesting Notes : 230 BHT's are better above .080 than below .020. 200 SMK's as expected .010 to .020. 230 SMK's truly need a 1:8. Obviously your results may vary.
 
I have read all 36 pages of posts over the last couple days, super informative. I’m curious if anymore people have tried RL33 with the heavies. I saw the two posts that have and it really interest me. I run RL 26 with 156 Berger’s in my short barreled 6.5 Creed and get 2950 and it has me thinking what if a guy stuffs 85-90 gr of RL 33 into a PRC with a 250 A tip and see if it doesn’t give us 3000 FPS. I know it’s not all about velocity but if the node is there and SD and ES is single digit we have a winner.
 
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I know of a guy that has tried RL33 with 250's and got pretty good speed but it wasn't as consistent as he'd have liked. May be dependent on the gun? A little tuning and trying wouldn't hurt.
 
This is great! got an email from RCC making sure the Brass is up to my spec. I don't have a built rifle yet, but was concerned with neck OD (based on SAAMI chamber specs), it's within spec but may be a bit tight in the chamber.

The CAD/CAM engineer turned down the OD diameter some. Really good Customer service on their part.
 
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I will be doing full review here with in a week on RCC brass. Will be receiving brass this week.
Will do full write up and review, if is anything like my friends RCC 338 brass it was better than 338 Lapua brass.
Better in what way?
 
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Better in what way?
It will hold higher pressure, primer pockets don't get lose as fast as lapua brass, his RCC 338 brass primer pockets are still good after 19 firings.
Also brass is more concentric internal volume measures exactly same within .05 measuring with H2O.
but as i said in earlier post i will be getting RCC brass for 300 PRC this coming up week and will do full test and review on RCC brass.
Also yes i paid for my brass with my $$$ which cost me around $600 for 100 pieces.
Will do review and will see if it will be worth.
 
Also, would like add, they are willing to make the case to YOUR dimensions. Example above, the CAD/CAM engineer contacted me and sent me measurements to confirm before starting. Ended up thinning out the neck thickness a bit.
 
Powder Valley just called. RL 26 on the shelves. 16 lbs coming my way. Give them a call.