Hate groups not welcome in VA
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Northam is a Democrat. Not a Liberal...most Democrats are not Liberals and the Democratic Party is strongly resisting/cheating/rigging to keep Liberals and Socialists *OUT* of the party.
Your beef and Hate are for Democrats. Read a little. Democrats are not, by and large, Liberals. They are - Democrats. Owned and operated by the very same Global Oligarchy and Corporate interests as yer local Republican.
Hate on Democrats if you have to hate. Liberal minds are not Democrat minds. Learn the difference as the near future of gun ownership depends on it.
VooDoo
Your beef and Hate are for Democrats. Read a little. Democrats are not, by and large, Liberals. They are - Democrats. Owned and operated by the very same Global Oligarchy and Corporate interests as yer local Republican.
Hate on Democrats if you have to hate. Liberal minds are not Democrat minds. Learn the difference as the near future of gun ownership depends on it.
VooDoo
So socialists aren’t the enemy?
Gtfo
And the liberals vote commie so they are the enemy too. If you vote d you are voting to steal my money and move criminals out to nice areas to brutalize my family.
You can name the evil whatever you would like.....
It doesn’t change the outcome or cumulative damage not one bit.
The best descriptor is “enemy of the Constitution, the Republic and Freedom.”
It doesn’t change the outcome or cumulative damage not one bit.
The best descriptor is “enemy of the Constitution, the Republic and Freedom.”
I am not a big fan of fify posts, but let me re-write this in my words
(and yes I did catch your sarcasm not fify'ing that)The social liberal/leftist mind is so beautifully SIMPLE that it is incapable of critical thought, always takes the easy way out even if that answer makes no logical sense, and believes what it is told without question or doubt by what it considers its leadership.
No, Voodoo is right here. The issue is not people who have, for decades, called themselves Democrats. The issue is not even with “liberals.” The Democratic Party has, since Wilson and Roosevelt, always had more “liberal” directions. But at their core were solid, pro-American and pro-working-man lunchbox values.
The problem is that the party has let itself be hijacked by utterly heinous progressive/socialist/communist individuals and their historically-bankrupt ideas.
The fringe of the party in the 1980s and 90s, Feinstein, Schumer, Pelosi, Nadler, Reid, Bernie, Schiff... were the apparatchik of the Howard Dean Progressive Revolution that took place in 2004 when Kerry imploded. Now they are the leadership and face of the party and, I dare say, being trampled by even more radical elements.
Beginning with the 2006 congressional elections which put Pelosi in power (on a platform of Bush is a Racist after Katrina and Attacking the Iraq War), the far, far left in this country has smelled their moment. Obama was the first big win. Hillary was supposed to be the icing on the cake... not that she is far left, but she would have been a puppet... lining Clinton pockets while the far left ran the show.
45 spoiled those plans... and the deplorables (many of them Lunchbox union democrats) are seeing through the charade they have been sold for decades... socialism.
Don’t lump all Democrats into the “enemy” camp. Because Many of them our potentially our best allies. Maybe even most of them.
The enemy is Communism... Marxist doctrine hiding behind a donkey. And you know what? It’s not even hiding any more. Like in Russia in 1917 or Germany in 1933, the Socialists feel that this is their moment and they will stop at nothing for this win.
After all, its what Marx predicted... and what the faithful have been biding their time to achieve. Hiding in the sewers of academia and Hollywood and the Media... just waiting for their moment.
And I bet a Lot of lifelong Truman and Kennedy and even Big Bubba Bill Clinton Democrats are as pissed as anyone.
So while the Democratic Party Fringe Leadership is certainly earning the mantle of “enemies of the Constitution and Republic” right about now... those moon bats are far removed from and, I argue, utterly out of touch with millions of Americans who probably won’t call themselves Democrats much longer.
We should be welcoming those folks to the ranks of Patriots and Constitutionalists with open arms, marching together towards... whatever comes Next.
Sirhr
The problem is that the party has let itself be hijacked by utterly heinous progressive/socialist/communist individuals and their historically-bankrupt ideas.
The fringe of the party in the 1980s and 90s, Feinstein, Schumer, Pelosi, Nadler, Reid, Bernie, Schiff... were the apparatchik of the Howard Dean Progressive Revolution that took place in 2004 when Kerry imploded. Now they are the leadership and face of the party and, I dare say, being trampled by even more radical elements.
Beginning with the 2006 congressional elections which put Pelosi in power (on a platform of Bush is a Racist after Katrina and Attacking the Iraq War), the far, far left in this country has smelled their moment. Obama was the first big win. Hillary was supposed to be the icing on the cake... not that she is far left, but she would have been a puppet... lining Clinton pockets while the far left ran the show.
45 spoiled those plans... and the deplorables (many of them Lunchbox union democrats) are seeing through the charade they have been sold for decades... socialism.
Don’t lump all Democrats into the “enemy” camp. Because Many of them our potentially our best allies. Maybe even most of them.
The enemy is Communism... Marxist doctrine hiding behind a donkey. And you know what? It’s not even hiding any more. Like in Russia in 1917 or Germany in 1933, the Socialists feel that this is their moment and they will stop at nothing for this win.
After all, its what Marx predicted... and what the faithful have been biding their time to achieve. Hiding in the sewers of academia and Hollywood and the Media... just waiting for their moment.
And I bet a Lot of lifelong Truman and Kennedy and even Big Bubba Bill Clinton Democrats are as pissed as anyone.
So while the Democratic Party Fringe Leadership is certainly earning the mantle of “enemies of the Constitution and Republic” right about now... those moon bats are far removed from and, I argue, utterly out of touch with millions of Americans who probably won’t call themselves Democrats much longer.
We should be welcoming those folks to the ranks of Patriots and Constitutionalists with open arms, marching together towards... whatever comes Next.
Sirhr
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VooDoo and Sirhr
I lived in DEEP BLUE northern VA for most of my life. I can tell you 100% for certain that a large volume of friends and neighbors that voted democrat 100% of the time agree 100% with Feinstein, Schumer, Pelosi, Nadler, Reid, Bernie, Schiff and Northam and the agenda that you guys are saying these people do not agree with.
My life's experience says your statements might be true for some democrats, but the vast majority that I know believe in line with what the moonbats are saying.
Am I just that randomly lucky to only have associated with those types? I fully admit that it is possible. The blue parts of VA are insane and may be 100% fringe
I lived in DEEP BLUE northern VA for most of my life. I can tell you 100% for certain that a large volume of friends and neighbors that voted democrat 100% of the time agree 100% with Feinstein, Schumer, Pelosi, Nadler, Reid, Bernie, Schiff and Northam and the agenda that you guys are saying these people do not agree with.
My life's experience says your statements might be true for some democrats, but the vast majority that I know believe in line with what the moonbats are saying.
Am I just that randomly lucky to only have associated with those types? I fully admit that it is possible. The blue parts of VA are insane and may be 100% fringe
Whether or not they are the same they voted for this shit.
That makes them as dangerous as any portion of that party.
They are as blind/team straight ticket voters as there are.
As for the hate Bullshit, a echo room of bullshit trying to invent something that practically doesn't exist.
Rhetoric designed to try to raise a reaction of those they think are on the fence.
R
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Every person I come into contact with that admits to voting for Democrats - are absolutely in lockstep with whatever outrageous thing the leftist politicians say or want. Asking any of them why they think or feel the way they do just results in a dear in the headlights look - then anger.
I’ve noticed more and more people online becoming terribly defensive about being recognized as being democrat voters. They know they are not on the right side of these issues, and don’t want to talk about it either. Most cannot explain why they vote Democrat other than “orange man bad”. Morons. All of them.
I’ve noticed more and more people online becoming terribly defensive about being recognized as being democrat voters. They know they are not on the right side of these issues, and don’t want to talk about it either. Most cannot explain why they vote Democrat other than “orange man bad”. Morons. All of them.
And I don’t doubt it... NOVA is the belly of the beast in so many ways.
But that region is far from places like Pittsburgh and Kansas City and Michigan where people are looking at that crew and shuddering.
And as Voodoo said, there are elements in the party trusting to stem the socialist tide. I think they are failing... and will ultimately fail.
So you are right 100 percent. There are many in the party who are cheering on the race to the Shining Path of Marxism. But most of them were on that path years ago... they are the power behind the Howard Dean wing of the party and are part of the same Kabal who have infiltrated government since Roosevelt and Alger Hiss.
They are The former 60s radicals who went and got jobs in government agencies... who are now at the peak of their bureaucratic power and want to see their hippie visions realized before they die of old age.
Historians are already Reevaluating Sen. McCarthy! Apparently he was more right than some could have imagined!
Sirhr
Thanks for the reply, I can see that, I was just bullied by the extremist for so long and there appeared to me to be so damn many of them (its why I moved a few years back, my sister left the area about a year after I did, same reasons) or they ALL seemed to be that way. There really are a scary number of people that believe and follow.
I am way out of touch with places like Pittsburgh and Kansas City and Michigan
What I noticed was even some of the more centrist Dems in Virginia were socially bullied into being more extreme and they went along to fit in. I am not the fitting in type, so didn't go well for me
I am way out of touch with places like Pittsburgh and Kansas City and Michigan
What I noticed was even some of the more centrist Dems in Virginia were socially bullied into being more extreme and they went along to fit in. I am not the fitting in type, so didn't go well for me
If you just change VA. for AL. what you posted would hold true for here as well.
Anyone who disagrees with you.
If you want to defend those that claim to be "Democrats" but are not the full communist liberal antiAmerica trash can you explain why they still pull the party lever? (Something I've never understood. Why was that an option in the voting booth. Another discussion.)
Why are those that claim the party left them not trying to right their party?
It's not much different than what is said about the muzzy. Radicals go jihad and the others are just cheerleading.
Party loyalty?
@Sihr I have said McCarthy was right for a long time. He was shamed by the big govt deep state. No different than what happened to the Tea Party. Repukians and demoshits alike are the problem.
Why are those that claim the party left them not trying to right their party?
It's not much different than what is said about the muzzy. Radicals go jihad and the others are just cheerleading.
Party loyalty?
@Sihr I have said McCarthy was right for a long time. He was shamed by the big govt deep state. No different than what happened to the Tea Party. Repukians and demoshits alike are the problem.
It is getting tougher to separate "Liberal" from democrat as time passes. The more exposure one has to certain ideas, or ideals, the easier it becomes to sip the koolaid. The rhetoric and tactics coming from the most identifiable or influential factions of the party are friggin tough to combat. From discrimination, racist, etc..., how do you get a point across?
Someone could have solutions to multitudes of issues, but "Racist" will get thrown in their face and now the focus is shifted to proving you are not. Look at the women's march yesterday, these people don't want a better America, they want what is best for them, change that.
Someone could have solutions to multitudes of issues, but "Racist" will get thrown in their face and now the focus is shifted to proving you are not. Look at the women's march yesterday, these people don't want a better America, they want what is best for them, change that.
The modern Democrat Party was founded during the height of the Civil War to resist the Union.
After the Civil War it became the party to continue resistance of the Union and maintain segregation.
In the early 1900s it aligned with those socialist ideals that allowed it to grow govt and thus the parties power over the People.
Wilson, Roosevelt, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton were not so much socialist as they were opportunists that realized by expanding govt they grab power over the people.
At about the 60s Johnson realized their campaign to maintain segregation prevented them from fully enslaving whites also. It was than they became a more "diverse" plantation owner and decided they would go for capturing everybody in their system.
Democrats are "Progressive" and "Liberal" though they have bastardized the terms from their positive conotations - they have no room for "Freedom" in their platform.
Libertarians are not Liberals - A Ron Paul or Rand I have a lot of agreement with.
Conservatives try to "conserve" the status quo and traditional culture/practices.
Unfortunately todays conservatives have let so much important stuff slip to liberalism often what they fight to maintain is more bastardization or things that make the system untenable.
The nails in the coffin are going to be concerning our Electoral process. Liberals get their way on destroying free and fair elections by the "citizens" of the country they will be able to erase the Republic what little is left as founded.
All I have to do is look at what the dems stand for. Then I know whoever voted to put them in office stand for the same thing! It’s really simple!
Think back to the 12 election....
When reading the party platform they booed, Israel, God......
The high up also hate that stuff but they realize they at least have to pay lip service to it.
The support is so virulent they don't want to hide in their sheeps clothing any more.
AOC, Talib, Omar and Antifa are the Democrat Party.
Ted Kennedy had his treasonous self all over that act.
Love the letters he sent to Yuri Andropov stating he and the Dems would resist Reagan........
The "Great Society". Is my vote.
I don't disagree that bill was a steaming pile of shit.
I don't disagree that bill was a steaming pile of shit.
Progressives
Self proclaimed Liberals (not really liberals)
Leftists
Democrats
Theres hardly a difference anymore as they all subscribe to the same groups think and have claimed those titles.
If you are one of those and dont subscribe maybe its time to stop calling yourself one.
Self proclaimed Liberals (not really liberals)
Leftists
Democrats
Theres hardly a difference anymore as they all subscribe to the same groups think and have claimed those titles.
If you are one of those and dont subscribe maybe its time to stop calling yourself one.
Liberal or conservative. Republican or democrat. Socialist or capitlaist. Left or right. Don't really care about the label. I hate just about everybody. Have a blessed day.
Let me give one sad but meaningful example. As a professional firefighter I now work in a union shop. I also live in a state with a very strong labor mentality. My coworkers have been indoctrinated every day by theYes IAFF to be single-issue voters on labor rights and labor alone. Much in the way the NRA has advocated "vote freedom first." The quote is "vote your job, lobby your hobby." I, of course, hate this one dimensional thinking. Our state (Montana) values freedom, hunting, and the outdoors as much, or more, than anything else. However, organized labor has convinced union members to vote on labor issues only and thereby accept the shit that typically accompanies "pro-labor" candidates. Yes, this is an obvious grab for union dues money. And yes, this mentality assumes that a person should place no personal values higher than their own job (kind of reminds me of "it's the economy, stupid.")However, none of my coworkers are wrapped up in gender, environmental, or immigration sanctuary issues.
So, when Sirhh, and others, say many Democrat voters may become our best friends, I choose to believe that they are right.
If labor isn't in love with Trump its obvious labor management does not represent labor.......
Politicians are the problem.. makes no difference what side. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. If someone is not 100% on board with the constitution then they are the problem not the solution.
I wish you gentlemen who acknowledge the business climate created by President Trump were 100 percent correct about union support of this administration. This environment is why I believe we have heard very little from organized labor during the Trump administration. They know things are generally good for their members but while a good business climate helps union members it does little to advance the national labor agenda.
Issues such as collective bargaining, fight for 15 (min. wage), and unrestricted immigration pollute the mentality of many in union leadership. Plus, the socialist background of unions does not lend itself to a pro-capitalist administration-even if the members are taken care of.
However, when I ask my union leadership how importing unskilled, illegal immigrant labor will drive up minimum wages, or my wages, I have never received a clear answer-even one that I disagree with. Furthermore,when I ask them how one-sided trade deals and enhanced environmental restrictions help union (or other) workers' wages, or how they feel about Biden and co. stating they will sacrifice blue-collar jobs for Green New Deal bullshit, again, no clear answer just a change in argument.
Much like the disillusioned NRA members here, an awakened blue-collar labor force may prove to be one of the greatest assets continued freedom.
Issues such as collective bargaining, fight for 15 (min. wage), and unrestricted immigration pollute the mentality of many in union leadership. Plus, the socialist background of unions does not lend itself to a pro-capitalist administration-even if the members are taken care of.
However, when I ask my union leadership how importing unskilled, illegal immigrant labor will drive up minimum wages, or my wages, I have never received a clear answer-even one that I disagree with. Furthermore,when I ask them how one-sided trade deals and enhanced environmental restrictions help union (or other) workers' wages, or how they feel about Biden and co. stating they will sacrifice blue-collar jobs for Green New Deal bullshit, again, no clear answer just a change in argument.
Much like the disillusioned NRA members here, an awakened blue-collar labor force may prove to be one of the greatest assets continued freedom.
Locally there used to be 3 fairly large Coal mines.
Of the 3 one is barely operating since the 08 Presidential election.
We are still sitting on an ocean of coal.
90 plus percent of those who lost jobs are still toeing the blue line.
Not many walked away with the promises they worked for.
R
guess I should have said 'socialist'. Happy? At any rate, the democrat party has never been this left wing, in my lifetime, and their hatred has never been more palpable.
Thought I did. It's basically anyone who stands up to them, or disagrees with them, or gets in their way. Their first reaction is to devolve into name-calling, and it usually doesn't take long, since they can't win an argument. You will notice that the more afraid of a person/candidate they are, the more visious the name-calling. They're absolutely terrified of DJT because they realize that what he is doing works; he's been called every name in the book. This renders them irrelevant. They did exactly the same to Sarah Palin.
McCarthy was just ahead of his time, but he was absolutely right. The left hated him for it, and took him down. Sound familiar?
I am still up in the air on understanding the Leftist vs Dem in my sphere. The few of them are all espousing the new progressive mantras, but are they doing it out of PC pressure? Have they always felt this way and now it's ok to say it b/c the party showing it's true colors and I just don't know any old school Dems? Very well may be the case. Heck if I know, but I have long suspected Dem acquaintances would actually like to see my firearms forcibly taken. When the topic would come up they told me I was nuts and they just wanted 'common sense gun laws'. Guess what happened when Francis O'Rourke said he'd like to come take them? In lock step they agreed it's high time to just take them. Little Francis is now out of the 2020 race, but his mantra still rings true with the ones in my sphere and perhaps they were leftists all along. I cannot know what is in another persons heart and mind and can only go by words and actions.
What a mess
What a mess
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Read an opinion piece some years ago (can't recall author). He believed only about 10 percent of "liberals" truly believed the drivel coming out of their mouths, but agreed because they "supported" the party or were afraid of being called out.
I suspect that percentage has grown significantly.
I'm Liberal in Philosophy and Conservative Fiscally. I don't care about a persons sexual preferences as long as it's not hurting anyone....I don't give a fuck what other people do, believe, or how the conduct their affairs. I think the best social program is a good job and the discipline to do it well and show up every day, pay yer bills and yer taxes, and not break laws and hurt other people. I think we can have some degree of social engineering without throwing the baby out with the bathwater - we can have social programs that benefit The Whole without disarming everyone and sending those who don't want to play to camps. The US so prosperous that there is enough to feed, house, clothe, educate, and medicate everyone but not if .01% of US needs 10KX what anyone else has.
I'm sick and fucking tired of filthy rich politicians dividing US into little bite size chunks so that their Owners and Operators (The Global Oligarchy) can soak up all the power, control, and fleece Americans out of their Life Savings, Homes, 401 K's, and college savings. There are Democrats and Republicans, Liberals and Conservatives, Blacks and Whites, etc, etc and we all hate on the other guy because he is an idiot and we are soooo fucking smart and righteous.
I was raised by a decorated veteran Father who voted Democrat his whole Life. He owned guns...he taught me to shoot. He raised 7 kids and considered abortion to be fucking murder. My whole Family are Democrats - Not Liberals - Not Leftists - and they *all* own guns and abhor abortion and pay their bills/taxes and are Conservatives. They vote Democrat because they hate fucking Republicans.
We get two choices - Dems or Republicans. Nothing grey or in between - we have been separated politically and economically and spiritually into factions and are being used by Democrats and Republicans and fucked every time we turn around. When will we learn it's US against our Government? When will we figure out that our "Representation" represents themselves and are owned and operated by people with more money than God? Never...so long as we hate on Democrats or Republicans, or blacks, or whites, or liberals, or conservatives we will always get what The Oligarchy wants (which is *everything!!*), never what we want or need.
We are being owned and served by our Politicians and The Oligarchy that owns and operates them and yet we sit here and fling boogers at each other while they rape US. Over, and over, and over....
Sorry for the rant. Sick of stupid people who hate their neighbor instead of their Representation and simply cannot fucking see that we are being deliberately set against each other by the ones who are eating US alive. Fuck me...wake the fuck up.
VooDoo
I'm sick and fucking tired of filthy rich politicians dividing US into little bite size chunks so that their Owners and Operators (The Global Oligarchy) can soak up all the power, control, and fleece Americans out of their Life Savings, Homes, 401 K's, and college savings. There are Democrats and Republicans, Liberals and Conservatives, Blacks and Whites, etc, etc and we all hate on the other guy because he is an idiot and we are soooo fucking smart and righteous.
I was raised by a decorated veteran Father who voted Democrat his whole Life. He owned guns...he taught me to shoot. He raised 7 kids and considered abortion to be fucking murder. My whole Family are Democrats - Not Liberals - Not Leftists - and they *all* own guns and abhor abortion and pay their bills/taxes and are Conservatives. They vote Democrat because they hate fucking Republicans.
We get two choices - Dems or Republicans. Nothing grey or in between - we have been separated politically and economically and spiritually into factions and are being used by Democrats and Republicans and fucked every time we turn around. When will we learn it's US against our Government? When will we figure out that our "Representation" represents themselves and are owned and operated by people with more money than God? Never...so long as we hate on Democrats or Republicans, or blacks, or whites, or liberals, or conservatives we will always get what The Oligarchy wants (which is *everything!!*), never what we want or need.
We are being owned and served by our Politicians and The Oligarchy that owns and operates them and yet we sit here and fling boogers at each other while they rape US. Over, and over, and over....
Sorry for the rant. Sick of stupid people who hate their neighbor instead of their Representation and simply cannot fucking see that we are being deliberately set against each other by the ones who are eating US alive. Fuck me...wake the fuck up.
VooDoo
Some of these people are boomers , the peace and love will find a way crowd .
Some of the utopian things that they believe they support are truly good at face value . It's when you look at the impact of these things or the graft and corruption associated with them that they fall apart . Some truly hate Republicans and conservatives. My sister and bil are quite brainwashed . They are affluent from the benefits of a lifetime of hard work and yet they espouse the free lunch theories . Even better in the midst of all of theae 2A attacks the bil says " they're not coming for your guns " . Numb nuts is a gun owner also . Man the left is growin some potent shit .
Who is the party of identity politics?
Funny thing, Trump is the first Pres we've had in my lifetime that really isn't part of either team.
Wake up should be the mantra for those who voted for Hill.
I've nothing against my fellow citizens.
I have reached a point of condemning ignorant voting practices.
Whether good neighbors or not they have voted to remove my rights.
Hate is a ideal pushed by the new team blue.
R
Because we only got 2 choices and they don't choose Republican. We get 2 choices. Both work for the same Global Billionaires. It really doesn't matter as neither Party has any intention of serving We the People. They just want to take our shit.
VooDoo
Okay. Looking at the last line of the post I quoted, you count your family in the stupid group?
It does matter.
Both parties are not the same.
They may both be corrupt, I will give you that.
But they are not chasing the same make believe utopian existence.
Only one side has the stated agenda of removing my 2A rights.
Only one side destroyed my healthcare affordability.
Only one side wants to reinstate the death tax to rob my children of all I worked for.
Only one side wants to tax me for carbon that came out of the ground.
One side chooses illegal aliens over tax paying citizens or veterans in every case.
I could continue the list for days....
But anybody that thinks both parties are the same is probably already having trouble sounding out the words.
Both parties are not the same.
They may both be corrupt, I will give you that.
But they are not chasing the same make believe utopian existence.
Only one side has the stated agenda of removing my 2A rights.
Only one side destroyed my healthcare affordability.
Only one side wants to reinstate the death tax to rob my children of all I worked for.
Only one side wants to tax me for carbon that came out of the ground.
One side chooses illegal aliens over tax paying citizens or veterans in every case.
I could continue the list for days....
But anybody that thinks both parties are the same is probably already having trouble sounding out the words.
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