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UPS Refuses to ship Action and Bolt back to Defiance for Warranty Inspection

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Drove all the way to a UPS hub today about 3 !/2 hours round trip to get these parts to Defiance. They wanted to send them by air for about $140. They could see that they were shipped to me from Defiance by UPS Ground. Then I was handed my parts after the clerk got of the phone and I was told NO SHIP.

I need to have a supply of YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID bumper stickers for things like this.

I hope this is not going to be normal just a isolated incident.
 
That sucks. Have your local dealer send it, their shipping costs are usually cheaper also.
 
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How did they know what you were shipping?

You tell them how to ship, they can want to do air all they want but its not their call.

What preceded them making a phone call? Something seems off with this, or you (foolishly) told them what was in the packaging.
 
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Fedex is traditionally way more pro firearms. Mostly because of the founder, though they have bowed to pressure recently as well. But much better company.
 
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Move to Texas. Texas UPS ships more guns than the next 20 states combined...it's a fact.

Friends of mine...for real
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Drove all the way to a UPS hub today about 3 !/2 hours round trip to get these parts to Defiance. They wanted to send them by air for about $140. They could see that they were shipped to me from Defiance by UPS Ground. Then I was handed my parts after the clerk got of the phone and I was told NO SHIP.

I need to have a supply of YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID bumper stickers for things like this.

I hope this is not going to be normal just a isolated incident.
Ask defiance to send you a pre made label. Most manufacturers will if it is warranty work.
 
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Move to Texas. Texas UPS ships more guns than the next 20 states combined...it's a fact.

Friends of mine...for real
good start, but where are all the evil black rifles!?

op, you can ship long guns via usps, easier and cheaper.

or, have defiance zap you a shipping label and either hand it to a driver or drop it off anywhere that does ups.
 
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I had an issue trying to ship from a UPS store. It was a fuckin barrel blank! I was ready to start bitcing about it, and said UPS delivered it to my house just a few days earlier. The girl working there said it wasn't a UPS policy, but the store policy. Some UPS stores operate independently, and can set whatever guidelines they choose. Fair enough, I choose to never ship from them again, and ship from FEDEX instead.
 
Yep. Same shit around here. Bunch of cuck owners of stores. Even deep in red territory, they do the same shit. It’s infuriating.
 
Absolutely zero issues shipping from a UPS hub...but some employees don’t even know their own company policy WRT firearms
 
I tried to ship a thermal scope at a UPS store in Texas...no go.

The gal behind the counter was ashamed of the policy. She said it was UPS's policy to not ship "gun parts". She also completely understood the sheer stupidity of the situation. I just left shaking my head.
 
I tried to ship a thermal scope at a UPS store in Texas...no go.

The gal behind the counter was ashamed of the policy. She said it was UPS's policy to not ship "gun parts". She also completely understood the sheer stupidity of the situation. I just left shaking my head.

I actually saw a kid trying to ship his airsoft rifle to the manufacturer for repair. UPS Store would not accept it.
 
Drove all the way to a UPS hub today about 3 !/2 hours round trip to get these parts to Defiance. They wanted to send them by air for about $140. They could see that they were shipped to me from Defiance by UPS Ground. Then I was handed my parts after the clerk got of the phone and I was told NO SHIP.

I need to have a supply of YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID bumper stickers for things like this.

I hope this is not going to be normal just a isolated incident.

"You are obviously dont have a clue about simple things, can i speak to you manager now please". When mgr comes, "Are you this twits manager - firstly I hope you are brighter then they are, if not get me your manager".
 
What? UPS came and picked up a rifle from my front door this last January... They knew exactly what it was and I told 'em when I called for the pickup, as if the $6k insurance and shape of the box didn't give it away. I didn't bullshit 'em, didn't want any problems if they fucked it up.

Ground. From you to the mfg. or smith. I'd insure it though. And tape on three labels on it. You also need to get the driver to sign a paper that says he actually picked it up and now it's in their hands. Don't forget that part.

Air is for handguns I'm told. But I think that has exceptions too.

You can always get your local store to do it.
 
I was told to tell them it is machined parts, by a UPS employee.
Yeah, but what if something happens and you have to file a claim? I understand that's where the problems start. I'd be careful.

"Machined parts" is also how they import illegal parts FWIW, and that's not kosher.

If you insure the package and have them sign the proper form then your ass is covered (you actually have to go back into the site and search for the shit, it's not intuitive and I had to play phone tag for three hours before I could get to someone that even knew what the fuck I was talking about).

Hell, there have been a couple times I actually wish they'd fucked up but they never do on high dollar insured items.
 
I am still trying to figure out why yall are telling the dipshits at the shipping centers what you are shipping.

Always say, "sex toys." Anything can be a sex toy if you want it bad enough, and that gives those confused about if they should tell a stranger what they are shipping a valid answer without lying.
 
Ha UPS eats hairy balls. The manager at the UPS Store down the street has shipped many a 'bike part' for me over the years. I like FedEx/kinkos though they never ask
 

This is not difficult...
No kidding. But in today's world playing victim is some sort of badge of honor. The greater the sadness the bigger the badge?
"3 !/2" hour drive to have someone tell them no. And with a whimper he drove home dejected and decided to post it here. Hoping for?
My only question is.... Did he wear a face diaper during his sad ride home?
 
I hate using UPS. My local one always asks what's in the box. For some reason they don't like my reply of, "None of your fucking business."

USPS never asks. So why does UPS?
 
I ship with ups all the time without problem from the hubs. I always have a copy of the ffl though if Im going to tell them it's a firearm(ups policy). Now if I do not have a copy of the ffl with me I just say Im sending "machined parts". Not lying and not being to specific but still could make an insurance claim.
Ups and fedex have specific rules shipping longguns, pistols, and ammo. They both allow it.
Ups stores are independently owned and most do not ship firearms.........but you can print a ups label online for a firearm and drop the package off at a ups store.
 
Yeah, but what if something happens and you have to file a claim? I understand that's where the problems start. I'd be careful.

"Machined parts" is also how they import illegal parts FWIW, and that's not kosher.

If you insure the package and have them sign the proper form then your ass is covered (you actually have to go back into the site and search for the shit, it's not intuitive and I had to play phone tag for three hours before I could get to someone that even knew what the fuck I was talking about).

Hell, there have been a couple times I actually wish they'd fucked up but they never do on high dollar insured items.
Because usp will be who you deal with, not the branch. Ups allows firearm shipment or parts. I think an explanation of what those parts were doesn’t make much difference, just the declared value.
 
I live in CA and even with that have not had any issues shipping rifles/gun parts even declaring what it is. I would copy down their regs and go back to the hub and speak to a supervisor.
 
Ha UPS eats hairy balls. The manager at the UPS Store down the street has shipped many a 'bike part' for me over the years. I like FedEx/kinkos though they never ask

Actually, Debra at Kinkos asked last week when I shipped that action and barrel to have it spun up.
She asked what was in the box and I said "barreled action".
She looked at the address and said, "Oh, I see it's going to an FFL, no problem."

Paid my money and off it went.
 
Shipping companies are getting more and more anti-firearm.

I had to ship a rifle back, and I contacted stores and hubs for UPS and Fedex. They were all useless, and wanted nothing to do with shipping a firearm. Fedex even put me in contact with their hazardous shipping department, and they were beyond useless.

I ended up just going through an FFL to ship my rifle, because it was going to be such a pain in the ass to do it myself here in Tucson. All the shipping companies were acting as if I was trying to send enriched uranium through the mail.

Others on here have recommended www.shipmygun.com. Reasonable rates and you print off a label, attach it to your package and drop it off at UPS. This may be your best bet. I couldn't use them because my rifle exceeded their weight limit.
 
First thing - know if it's a store(stupid people) or a hub(probably professionals)...never go to a store for anything
Second - Tell them it's on an FFL or an RMA. The hubs know what these are
 
"UPS Stores" used to be "Mailboxes Etc.". They entered an agreement with Big Brown to use the name.... that's all. UPS Store employees are not employees of UPS. Never ever, not one. The only thing UPS about them is the package car driver makes a daily call for pickup. "Steel articles" is a good standard description.
 
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This incident has nothing to do with Defiance Machine. When I told Defiance what happened they did everything and more to assist me that I could ever had asked for and had it resolved promptly.

This was at a hub. The local UPS stores in the remote area I live will not touch anything to do with a firearm or parts. I told the clerk at the hub they were machined parts that needed to be inspected and refinished by the manufacture.

Then they decided to cut open the box. And 45 min later I was on the way home.
 
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The local UPS hub here has a little old lady who knows the rules and laws like the back of her hands. Never had an issue with UPS there. Show FFL and ID, off it goes.

Doc
 
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I recently shipped a scope to S&B via UPS for a reticle change, with $3K insurance.

Created the shipping label myself on the UPS website and when I entered "riflescope" a bot said this is "not allowed" to ship, or some such. Changed the word to "telescope" and the label printed no problem.
 
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Never, ever heard of a UPS Customer Center employee cutting into a customer's parcel.

Showing the lackey the corporate policy for shipping firearms should fix the problem, and if it doesn't, showing it to a supervisor should.
 
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Grandma needs some trigger discipline.

My UPS hubs just asks if it’s unloaded and I say yes. That’s the end of it and they happily give me a receipt and I’m on my way
 
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Looks like you are a. ummmm, how to say this nicely.... A fucking cuck.
Next time you drive an hour and a half to have your ass handed to you by some runt. Ask your wife/girlfriend if you can have your balls from her purse.
This incident has nothing to do with Defiance Machine. When I told Defiance what happened they did everything and more to assist me that I could ever had asked for and had it resolved promptly.

This was at a hub. The local UPS stores in the remote area I live will not touch anything to do with a firearm or parts. I told the clerk at the hub they were machined parts that needed to be inspected and refinished by the manufacture.

Then they decided to cut open the box. And 45 min later I was on the way home.
 
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