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Fun fact:

There is more data supporting ivermectin as a prophylactic and early treatment for COVID than the data available to support giving the jab to kids under 12.

Like, literally more studies (35+), more RCTs (20+), and over more 20,000 participants
 
COVID is actually a complete breakdown of logic, morals and ethics along with a dash of sometimes deadly upper respiratory infection.

Close but it's not a breakdown of those things. Rather, it is an exploitation of the people that lack logic, morals, ethics, and I will add integrity. That is an important distinction.

There are plenty of us still standing with logic, morals, ethics and integrity. I would argue that if you possess those traits, there is no breakdown. The chodes among us never had any of those values, so they are easily exploited. Stand firm, do not give up your values.
 
Close but it's not a breakdown of those things. Rather, it is an exploitation of the people that lack logic, morals, ethics, and I will add integrity. That is an important distinction.

There are plenty of us still standing with logic, morals, ethics and integrity. I would argue that if you possess those traits, there is no breakdown. The chodes among us never had any of those values, so they are easily exploited. Stand firm, do not give up your values.
I am interested to hear how I was exploited by covid. Really I am. I mean exactly nothing in my life has been changed or impacted, except, I guess for financially it was a huge boon. I expect you mean that I was vaccinated. I would redo that any time given the chance.
 
Glenn Greenwald of all people.
REALLY Quite good.... if you want some great info on what's really happened/happenig to FREE SPEECH.



 
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In my view, not all of the folks who are figuring out that the vaccines are dangerous (if not deadly) are worthy of our scorn. There are plenty who do deserve it, those who made a thing about folks who wont get it and joined in the pile on of the holdouts.

There are plenty however who simply did not have an inkling that there were possible issues, especially elderly. I know several elderly early adopters of the vaccine. They were advised by people they trust to take it and subsequent boosters. Low information types, not liberals, just folks who don’t live on forums like this and still want to believe the government and news can be trusted.

Not our enemies, just fooled.

(Not talking about you @theLBC , I appreciate all you bring to light here)

I wish I had done more to dissuade some in my larger circle when I first had an idea that something was wrong back when vaccination started being pushed. Initially I was hesitant because I didn’t like how fast it was released. Once I was aware it was actually dangerous (possibly nefarious) it was after many older folks I love had taken it.

I, not them, are worthy of ridicule for that.

I will do whatever it takes to protect my larger family who are almost all still purebloods. I will do horrible things to protect my immediate family and grandson. I only wish I could go back in time and warn people more sternly.
 
Fun fact:

There is more data supporting ivermectin as a prophylactic and early treatment for COVID than the data available to support giving the jab to kids under 12.

Like, literally more studies (35+), more RCTs (20+), and over more 20,000 participants
On top of that Ivermectin is probably safer than aspirin, they literally prescribe it to children for head lice.
 
I’m going to tentatively agree with this. Not everything is relating to the vax. Intelligence is required over the emotion of it all. How else is the wheat separated from the chaff? I may agree with the fact that the vaccines are causing problems-sometimes serious, including fatal - we need to ensure that we don’t get wrapped up in myth, hyperbole and conjecture - It doesn’t help. The data alone is speaking for itself.

I’m going to tentatively agree with this. Not everything is relating to the vax. Intelligence is required over the emotion of it all. How else is the wheat separated from the chaff? I may agree with the fact that the vaccines are causing problems-sometimes serious, including fatal - we need to ensure that we don’t get wrapped up in myth, hyperbole and conjecture - It doesn’t help. The data alone is speaking for itself.

I weighed it all out after 6 mos of hesitation and observation and decided the possible side effects of the vaccine were minimal compared to the possible full effects of the disease. Plus if one gets mildly infected then isnt this about the same as getting a mild case via the vaccine? Same shit winds up in your body, just like real strawberry flavor vs synthesized flavor via organic chemistry..
 
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I weighed it all out after 6 mos of hesitation and observation and decided the possible side effects of the vaccine were minimal compared to the possible full effects of the disease. Plus if one gets mildly infected then isnt this about the same as getting a mild case via the vaccine? Same shit winds up in your body, just like real strawberry flavor vs synthesized flavor via organic chemistry..
Glad you took the time to determine your options and how each works in your situation. I have done the same and came to a completely different conclusion.

The risk of catching covid or any other virus floating around is real however the actual risk of dying from it is pretty small. Watching the data coming out of the UK and Israel makes me believe that there is very little if any benefit to taking the vaccine, in fact the death rate for the vaxed is approaching 2 times the rate of the unvaxed. With the currently know short term side affects and the yet to be fully determined long term side affects the risk is absolutely not worth the reward.

The end game is not the vax or the virus the end game is control, total control. There is no concern for you living or not.
 
Some of the smartest people in the world, at least in their field and they are walking away rather than get the vax. That along with hundreds of nursing staff willing to walk away should be telling the rest of us something.
The fact that Los Alamos folks are leaving has zero value to either side of the vax argument. First, there are as many non-skilled job openings as there are for rocket scientists. Second, rocket scientists are not medical experts. Third, Los Alamos is a challenging work environment that takes a toll on your personal life, because you can share nothing with your friends or family about what you do. I have a friend with a high level security clearance who turned down a job at Los Alamos for just that reason. Seven years designing nukes in secrecy was enough for him.
 
The fact that Los Alamos folks are leaving has zero value to either side of the vax argument. First, there are as many non-skilled job openings as there are for rocket scientists. Second, rocket scientists are not medical experts. Third, Los Alamos is a challenging work environment that takes a toll on your personal life, because you can share nothing with your friends or family about what you do. I have a friend with a high level security clearance who turned down a job at Los Alamos for just that reason. Seven years designing nukes in secrecy was enough for him.
Fair enough but they did just fire 185 people for not being vaxed.
 
Some of the smartest people in the world, at least in their field and they are walking away rather than get the vax. That along with hundreds of nursing staff willing to walk away should be telling the rest of us something.
The percentage of nurses who are vaccinated is about 25% higher than the percentage of adults who are vaccinated, so I am not sure that the nurses argument exactly says what you are implying. It is the problem with so much of this argument by innuendo that it counts the anomaly as much more important that the average.
 
And on the elections front:

 
So what is this “news” about Biden? I hate that they say “I have a huge story” “check back later”! Rather than just telling you what happened.
 
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So what is this “news” about Biden? I hate that they say “I have a huge story” “check back later”! Rather than just telling you what happened.
I can only imagine... But they need to get this "huge story" out if it's legit.
 
that it counts the anomaly as much more important that the average.

Of course, it's just data and not people's lives, liberty and individual choices. Just anomalies...

Every now and again you do give hints to your true intentions...
 
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Of course, it's just data and not people's lives, liberty and individual choices. Just anomalies...

Every now and again you do give hints to your true intentions...
Every now and then you make sense, but it isn't this time.

But please tell me, oh great diviner, what are my true intentions?
 
The percentage of nurses who are vaccinated is about 25% higher than the percentage of adults who are vaccinated, so I am not sure that the nurses argument exactly says what you are implying. It is the problem with so much of this argument by innuendo that it counts the anomaly as much more important that the average.
I am married to an un ‘vaccinated’ nurse. She thinks your 25% number could be correct, but only because the vast majority of them have not been given a choice, provided they need to retain their employment for income. There are far more opportunities for the general adult population to remain gainfully employed without the gene therapy jab than others in fields that are often dependent on big pharma dollars.
 
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If the democrats non violently inserted them selves into power. Why cant the others do the same? That should be the goal.

This country falling into civil war and tearing its self apart at the seams is not the answer. It didn’t work in 1860, the south lost.

You far alt right guys are also out numbered, out of 330,000,000 people accounted for in the census and the 10-20,000,000 illegals camped out here you represent about 60,000,000 of that. You are out numbered roughly 5/1- 6/1. There are democrats out there who are proficient in hand to hand and weapons combat. A shooting war of attrition is not something thats going to go as well as you think it might. Especially if you dont have control of the army, marines, navy and airforce.

The answer is to become better at working the system and attracting more support, and acceptance of others that don’t necessarily share 100% of you view, but generally accept right side conservative value.

Biden didn’t win because of popularity, Trump lost because he pissed people off, massive media campaign against him and wide scale mail in ballots. Remember you are 1/5-1/6 the population of this country you are generally out numbered.
Bidens not supported, trump was hated. And you in need to step out side your echo chamber if you are going to attract the support of the silent majority, you know the half of the population that doesn’t care enough to even register to vote

Btw, I voted for Trump, I am a registered independent who votes republican 95% of the time. I dont fully embrace all Republican values, but fuck these liberal Democrats!

Civil war, will not work, Unless its a military coup, in control of the military assets. Lt Col Sheller tried that, no one stepped up, he is in jail.
I love how guys like you and chode spew your drivle. You speak like a bootlicker then summarize with...."but I voted for Trump so I'm a good guy like yall"
I'm really surprised you didn't make reference to how the 22 midterms will be where we change course.
Iceberg dead ahead sir!!!!! "Come right 2 degrees....it'll move...🙄
 
I man married to an un ‘vaccinated’ nurse. She thinks your 25% number could be correct, but only because the vast majority of them have not been given a choice, provided they need to retain their employment for income. There are far more opportunities for the general adult population to remain gainfully employed without the gene therapy jab than others in fields that are often dependent on big pharma dollars.
I don't discount that this could be a reason, again on the margins, but the fact that 90% or so of nurses are vaccinated, and 97+% of doctors are vaccinated means that when people say "believe the nurses, they are unvaccinated," we are talking about an anomaly, and the real message to take from it is that if you believe healthcare professionals by their actions, the greater the amount of education, the higher percentage of vaccination. Nurses assistants etc are significantly lower.
 
I love how guys like you and chode spew your drivle. You speak like a bootlicker then summarize with...."but I voted for Trump so I'm a good guy like yall"
I'm really surprised you didn't make reference to how the 22 midterms will be where we change course.
Iceberg dead ahead sir!!!!! "Come right 2 degrees....it'll move...🙄
I have to tell you, if you are going to misspell my username to make a point, it is more convincing if you don't also misspell things like drivel in the same sentence. And to be clear, just because I voted for Trump doesn't mean I think you are the good guys, nor that I believe I am anything like you.