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Recent content by M47Patton

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    Rifle Scopes Vortex razor gen 1. Hard to get behind? Or the new toric. HELP!!!!!!!

    I had the same concerns as you prior to buying the gen 1 razor. I was particularly interested in it's internal adjustment range. I ended up taking a chance and can say I'm glad I did. I have mine mounted on a savage 112 338 lapua and I'm able to spot my own impacts. I think some of the...
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    Rifle Scopes Scope choice?

    I think you are taking my original comment too literal. I was speaking in the context of being able to zero at 100, considering the type of shooting OP said he was planning. Nothing is preventing you from putting a 400 moa rail on your rifle. If you don't care or want a 100 yard zero then...
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    Rifle Scopes Scope choice?

    With a 100 yard zero I have 22.5 mils (~75 moa) of up travel, with the gen1 razor + 20 moa rail. Initial impression of the scope is very good. Definitely a step up from the past gen 2.
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    Rifle Scopes Scope choice?

    From Vortex website on the mil version: Max Elevation Adjustment28.5 MRAD (See Features Tab) http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/razor-hd-gen-2-45-27x56-riflescope-with-ebr-1c-mrad-reticle Same turret design, mil vs moa shouldn't matter. You're right, I didnt catch that. Interesting that...
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    Rifle Scopes Scope choice?

    I don't believe the gen1 has the same issue. Based on Vortex's documentation on their site, it seems like the 70 moa up limitation is related to the gen2s turret design. The Gen 1 uses a different turret design. I also have a pst gen2 which uses the same turret design as the gen1 razor and I...
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    Rifle Scopes Scope choice?

    My understanding on the Razor gen2 is that the turret design allows for a max of 70 moa up. In other words, it has 113 total internal travel, divide by 2 gets you ~56 moa up. At a 20 moa rail and that should get you 76 moa u p but the turret system will limit you to 70 moa up. There would...
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    No 147gr ELD-M love?

    According to Hornady they recommend a 1-8.5 twist for their 147 eld. Using Bergers twist calculator, at 1-8.5 twist you need at least 2800fps. Anything under puts you in marginal stability. A 1-8 twist is comfortably stable, even at a velocity as low as 2600 fps. I shoot the 147s out to...
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    Long Range - Hit Probability Analysis

    How about a 265 nosler accubond longrange at 3000 fps out of a 338 lapua. Started playing with these and RL-33. Nosler updated the BCs on the ablr, they are looking more realistic now: https://www.nosler.com/accubond-long-range-bullet/
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    Rifle Scopes Vortex 6-24x50 HST

    I've had one for 3 years. Originally had it on a 260 bolt action. It's been on a 6.5 grendel AR for the past year (in Larue split rings no less). To date no problems with it. That AR even got knocked off the bench a few months ago, hitting the concrete floor resulting in some scratches on...
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    338LM handloading questions

    The 285s you bought from Brownells is a box of 50, not 100. The 230 eldx's are a box of 100
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    338LM handloading questions

    Just got started with 338LM myself. As far reloading procedures, its the same as all my other chambers, just a lot more powder. I came into some 285gr amax for very cheap and used them to break the barrel in. I'm just now starting load development. I have 285 elds and 265gr nosler ablr's...
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    Rifle Scopes Sub $2000 scope for 338LM/ELR

    Good point on the eyebox.
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    Rifle Scopes Sub $2000 scope for 338LM/ELR

    I recently picked up a Savage 112 single shot 338LM rifle. This rifle will be used mostly for 1500+ yard steel targets. I do qualify for the Vortex MIL discount so I've been looking at both the razor gen1 and gen2. The strong appeal of the gen1 is both the ton of internal elevation and it...
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    Rifle Scopes Another Vortex down

    The accidental damage combined with mil discount is why I have more vortex than anything else. To date I've had one failure out of several scopes, a diamondback HP, the side focus stopped working. It was mounted in a very crude accumounts mount/rings for a PU Mosin Nagant. I should have...
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    Assault Weapons Ban of 2018

    Same. Youtube coming down hard on gun channels (and airgun channels?!) this time seems worse than last time. Companies pulling NRA support seems new. The left is directly attacking the NRA with tacticts that smell like acorn/seiu. Each time a school is shot up and dozens of kids are killed...