Ukraine war Bullshit.
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I don't disagree, I think they would have gotten it in the end either way. But hitting the carriers would have bought them time to grow stronger before having to deal with us.
I'm 66 and a bit rough but---------
I will find a hidy hole and pop foreign invaders with my own reloads till they run out or I run out of time allowed by my maker.
Tours up my ass.
I will find a hidy hole and pop foreign invaders with my own reloads till they run out or I run out of time allowed by my maker.
Tours up my ass.
For someone who gives so little fucks you spend a lot of time monitoring a thread dedicated to it and steadfastly post the link to the international legion. I lost the link, can you post it again?
Sir this is a US gun forum.
If you want to find people that give a shit about shitty corrupt Eastern Bloc countries, maybe try Reddit.
What does spamming an eastern bloc military recruitment website have to do with us guns?
Couldn't remember? Why the fuck would I even try? You are a piece of shit. So you will either dry up and blow away or get stepped on and scrubbed off on a curb or scraped off with a stick.
My point is that you and others here are enormous cowards for not fighting in the very wars you are advocating for, that thousands of others will have to die for.
It's the single most cowardly thing an able bodied man can do.
People like you, @SNB, @kalashnikev and all the neocons that lied us into useless wars like the Iraq War - Dick Cheney, David Frum, Robert Kagan, etc. are some of the lowest forms of life on this planet.
You advocate for incredibly destructive policies that you will never yourself suffer the consequences of. It's the most reprehensible and repugnant act of human beings.
How to Join: Can we submit a few outstanding candidates? Hunter Biden, Hakeem Jefferies, AOC, Ilhan Omar, Oh fuck, the whole Democratic Party and a few Rino's! That should fill the troop roster for a while!
As I understand it
the well-known acronym on your avtar also does not mean what they mean to everyone else ?
Something tells me that you, like the lizard and the kortik and the mosin, will not be able to answer.
ps . When you hear the number 41, what first comes to mind?
Trivia? Really? Here's your answer.... No one gives a fuck. You are a sorry piece of shit that is a coward. Now man up and go defend your country and family. Or change your tampon.As I understand it
the well-known acronym on your avtar also does not mean what they mean to everyone else ?
Something tells me that you, like the lizard and the kortik and the mosin, will not be able to answer.
ps . When you hear the number 41, what first comes to mind?
Lindsay spent 20mio on his trips to ukraine , there must be some male strippers and blow involved
If 1 million dollars spent so Congress can travel to Ukraine upsets you, how does 5 million spent so the president can go to the Daytona 500 make you feel? Money well spent?
When Olgino started working our discussion platforms on the Internet immediately felt it.
At that time, there were quite narrowly specialized commentators working there.
They understood the subject of discussions quite well.
Over time, their qualifications deteriorated. But these were serious, detailed discussions.
When I saw what cheap crap they are pushing here I was stunned.
It is even somewhat humiliating for the target audience.
We have not had this for a long time and they need to try hard not to get banned on the "second" post after registration.
first trip was taken to promote war and killing in a foreign country.
the other was to promote unity for americans enjoying the traditions of the sport.
in other words, that is a fucking retarded question.
No matter how anyone spins is this war can only continue as long as our taxes pay for it .
Ukraine own defense budget is cca 6-7billion$ on a good year (that is couple of weeks worth of war ), spent 300+Billion $ in our money only to end up in positions worse than they had in 2022, we pay their salaries, pensions ,and keep the whole thing afloat .Without our money Ukraine collapses in matter of weeks not months .
How does it end? About as well as it always does once music stops.
Iraq and other Oilstans have a easily tradable and very profitable natural resource that can pay for it ,those that don't stagnate for decades (Bosnia ,Lebanon ,Sudan, Afghanistan.......)
Folks that think Ukraine will end with some rebuilding bonanaza where out of the ashes rises some kind of Taiwan or Singapore are sorely mistaken most of economies that finance Ukraine are neck deep in debt and deficits , only reason financing can continue is that elites do not work for the plebs, typicaly once lights turn off , best case you get Clinton Fundation to run rebuilds.
Besides whole Ukraine reconstruction is a scam most of the cost is in modernisation of Ukrainian infrastructure and economy(not fully related to war) , 80% infrastructure destruction is in Russian occupied and soon to be Russian occupied areas. you know the places fighting was/is going on.
Ukraine own defense budget is cca 6-7billion$ on a good year (that is couple of weeks worth of war ), spent 300+Billion $ in our money only to end up in positions worse than they had in 2022, we pay their salaries, pensions ,and keep the whole thing afloat .Without our money Ukraine collapses in matter of weeks not months .
How does it end? About as well as it always does once music stops.
Iraq and other Oilstans have a easily tradable and very profitable natural resource that can pay for it ,those that don't stagnate for decades (Bosnia ,Lebanon ,Sudan, Afghanistan.......)
Folks that think Ukraine will end with some rebuilding bonanaza where out of the ashes rises some kind of Taiwan or Singapore are sorely mistaken most of economies that finance Ukraine are neck deep in debt and deficits , only reason financing can continue is that elites do not work for the plebs, typicaly once lights turn off , best case you get Clinton Fundation to run rebuilds.
Besides whole Ukraine reconstruction is a scam most of the cost is in modernisation of Ukrainian infrastructure and economy(not fully related to war) , 80% infrastructure destruction is in Russian occupied and soon to be Russian occupied areas. you know the places fighting was/is going on.
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Here's an example of the shit they throw.
They choose a photo where no civilian is visible and add the text that the military was killed.
In the center of the city, which is not near the front, in a civilian car at a traffic light.
Even the name of the channel SlavicFreeSpirit immediately suggests that these are Russian Nazis obsessed with Slavic unification.
in fact the strike was using MLRS.
Unguided
I'd rather take all the money we wasted and run op's south of our own border on cartells with or without the Mexican government's cooperation.
Our polititions will just figure out a new way to get graft. They can get over it.
Our polititions will just figure out a new way to get graft. They can get over it.
supposedly, starting this month (june) the families of ukrainian soldiers killed in action are supposed to be paid >$400k.
i wonder how they can pay this. our money?
i also wonder how much of it they will steal.
since ukraine is already unable to pay their current outstanding debt, we'll have to guess that they don't have access to that, or spent it already.
Ukraine to skip $665 million debt payment, Bloomberg reports
Ukraine will skip a $665 million government debt payment after failing to agree on restructuring terms with creditors, Bloomberg reported.
kyivindependent.com
That money is not all Russian and most of it from non sanctioned individuals or businesses,, only about 60billion is kinda clearly sanctioned , Belgium that sits on it is not to eager on taking it as it will resoult in decades of litigation and when verdicts come in they would be on the hook for interest and damages. Other side of the coin is there are shit load of western assets in Russia as well , tit for tat counter seizure would force those companies to seek reinbursment by US or EU for losses suffered due polices. So its much more complex than folks imagine even without the reputational damage to 'debt financing instruments aka goverment bonds'
In any case its quite understandable that those not on the hook for the assets are the loudest in regards to confiscation , including formerly Biden admin as US held assets were like 5 billion in grand total. Most assets are in Belgium
That is why so far all sorts of arangments like using profits from assets as colateral for loans are playing out.
Billions of euros in frozen Russian assets not so ‘Russian’, Belgian news outlet says
A large portion of the €258 billion being held in Belgium under Russian sanctions has reportedly been found to belong to Western banks and non-sanctioned individuals and businesses.
Legal experts warned that the Belgian state could face substantial damage claims, and estimated that 80 per cent or more of the blocked billions belonged to legally innocent people who should not have been affected by sanctions.
Billions of euros in frozen Russian assets not so ‘Russian’, Belgian news outlet says
A large portion of the €258 billion being held in Belgium under Russian sanctions actually belongs to Western entities.
brusselssignal.eu
Meanwhile financial gymnastics to defense spending are continuing , as there is no money for lofty 3% let alone 5% GDP defense budgets
So new gymnastics would count highways ,hospitals ,ports and Ukraine aid in defense spending ,so real hikes might turn out to be modest.
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FIFYsince ukraine is alreadyunableunwilling to pay their current outstanding debt, we'll have to guess that they don't have access to that, or spent it already.
Ukraine to skip $665 million debt payment, Bloomberg reports
Ukraine will skip a $665 million government debt payment after failing to agree on restructuring terms with creditors, Bloomberg reported.
Say......I wonder........Can I "fail to agree on terms" with my mortgage company and just refuse to pay them back ? Is that a thing ? Does that work ?
Fucking flakes. I'd like to say I'm shocked. But I can't.
"Homoerotic Dancer"
since ukraine is already unable to pay their current outstanding debt, we'll have to guess that they don't have access to that, or spent it already.
Ukraine to skip $665 million debt payment, Bloomberg reports
Ukraine will skip a $665 million government debt payment after failing to agree on restructuring terms with creditors, Bloomberg reported.
Those pices of shit won't pay back one damn red cent. They are just stealing it all with our polititions help, for a cut.
Thier widows won't get anything nor thier children. They will be paying bills for food by flatbacking.
Then our liberal whining shits will try to steal more money from us for humanitarian aid and their fucking back pockets.
Needs to be nipped in the bud.
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Got a hunch Russia is not going to renew their subscription.
How do you think Russia is going to respond?
hopefully with a non nuc wipe out of the Z regime,it's military,any other country's support personnel and hardware,esp any biolabs that are there.
Still haven’t seen much proof of what was destroyed. Only Sat images I have seen showed 2 Tu-22 and 4 Tu-95’s. But that was just one airbase and many were struck. See some drone photos and some stuff that looked like AI fakes
So until I see definitive evidence of what all was hit… if ever. I will be skeptical of the claims
Perhaps the cheerleaders have blown a small but effective strike out of proportion. And things will just grind along as they have been. Nothing too knee jerk. Russia will keep slowly taken land. Keep putting bodies on ice.
Always good to bear in mind that the first casualty of war is truth.
a lot of work for Ukraine. of course we paid for it and ran it,so,a freebie. doubt it destroyed much. i bet heads will roll at FSB. drove semis loaded with weapons all the way to Siberia,got real close to Russ airbases as far as Siberia,deployed with no fast reaction. KGB would have had some agents shot. Putin was KGB so he knows the level of the FU. the bridge hit was careless Russ security too. under water drone or divers. that will divert many Russ security assets.
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@Alex_Oloyede2
A phone taken from the body of a dead Ukrainian soldier. Many such cases of men forced into the trenches.Rest in peace brother
@Alex_Oloyede2
A phone taken from the body of a dead Ukrainian soldier. Many such cases of men forced into the trenches.Rest in peace brother
One day away from existential predators is not a solution. Tomorrow they will be doing the same thing. Like sending your wife back to work with her rapist. Talk about lack of cognitive ability.
As you can see if you follow the mapping reports Ukies are losing ground and methinks the amount lost could be much higher (aka the pace) but Russians have learned the lessons and are not pushing fully but rather methodically eradicating fortified positions using minimum infantry. As it looks Ukie frog will be boiled while still shouting their Bandera slogans and "at the gates of Moscow". A decisive full out blow would have spared West a lot of resources and kept a lot of Ukie scum alive. The slow grind basically destroyed almost all the fanatics, now it appears (leftovers) fanatics are used as blocking troops and cannon fodder is used at main line of contact. And Russian forces being rotated gained a lot of experience and most of all rats from inside got exposed and dealt with. Now if Baltic chihuahuas, Finn drunkards or Polish idiots try something (again i think its more bark than bite especially since people in those countries are certainly not as crazy as one might think looking at their elected leaders) try to do something, they will die in droves. US is a wild card as it appears that Trump might not be at the helm as poking nuclear thingies is never a good think - but again he might be the character of the "lets see what that red button does" type, he certianly is not "RTFM" type of char.
Bandera, frog boiling, downplaying casualties, positive spinning military corruption... Looks like a puccian man has entered the chat.
You need to convince them that you are just trying to be a Zelensky.FIFY
Say......I wonder........Can I "fail to agree on terms" with my mortgage company and just refuse to pay them back ? Is that a thing ? Does that work ?
Fucking flakes. I'd like to say I'm shocked. But I can't.
"Homoerotic Dancer"
Serious question. Do you ever find yourself laying in bed before going to sleep and asking yourself,.... IF I Wake Up,... what will I be waking up to? You might want to start thinking about that cause the rumor is,... Russia is now hunting down people like you with the help of N Korea and a few other country's, key stroke folks. Might want to pass that to your other buds as well. Wishing you well, as I'd hate to see the entertainment factor here go away,... Are you sure everyone that lives and is around you can be trusted, as I'd hate to know umbrellas, are back in style.
weeb union compiled more imagery. By his count about 15 aircraft hit. Also claims 3 of the 6 strikes failed. In video below.
I understand that you spent all your savings on a new truck and a mortgage instead of an education, but still, make an effort and think about it.And I have already made a discount on this, entering into a dialogue.
How do you imagine this?
I understand everything, if you are Russian Vanya, then without photos of 41 planes ( 2 of them AWACS) burned to the ground with puddles of molten aluminum, you will not believe it.
Although if you are Vanya, then you will not believe it even with such photos.
The firmware will interfere.
Who should give you evidence?
The Russian General Staff? Why do they need it?
Do you understand that a plane that is found with even one hole from shrapnel will no longer fly?
It won't fly for long.
The Russians admit that they don't have the means to restore them.
So in their case it's forever.
Yeah, we know.
Regarding your amazing operation web, your own government claimed ~12 planes, your SBU propagandists claimed 41, they claim a lot of funny things.
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Couldn't help but notice you are over here making up propaganda.Here's an example of the shit they throw.
They choose a photo where no civilian is visible and add the text that the military was killed.
In the center of the city, which is not near the front, in a civilian car at a traffic light.
Even the name of the channel SlavicFreeSpirit immediately suggests that these are Russian Nazis obsessed with Slavic unification.
in fact the strike was using MLRS.
Unguided
Above pic- You should pay more attention to the photos you post. As the fireman has his phone out snapping picture, guy in the fore ground is carrying a military pack...
Above photo- Yet some one in plain clothes is pushing the gurney, while again in the upper left another firefighter is just standing back... IDK about Ukraine, but in the US of A fire fighters would be hands on getting bodies out. Not standing around snapping pics. I know when my cousin was trying to revive a dead 9 month old kid, it took 4 guys to pull him off because he wouldn't stop trying.
My guess is this was a van full of soldiers traveling in civilian vehicles, all military aged men.
My other thought is you once again are complelty full of shit, just towing a propaganda line. It becomes very apparent when you have a discussion with some one and they act all God like, all knowingness, and never admit when they make a mistake, never questioning if they are actually right. Just constant yapping like they know all see all...
The fact is you are fucking wrong, and you are wrong a lot. Get over your self you little cunt bitch.
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