Oh so you admit that for Ukraine to win, they need to make it unappealing for Moscow to continue. I agree. So how the fuck does poking Russia in the nuclear deterrent achieve that? How does galvanizing the Russian people behind their war machine achieve that? This is exactly what I'm saying. Ukraine was reckless and stupid to conduct that operation, and deserves to lose the war for it.
this is how they flipped the regime in ukraine. change my mind. this was a basic function of usaid...funding this kind of shit.
lol, and hunter's laptop is russian misinformation, right? you're a joke or a retard. you choose.Ukraine wins by default.
Russia thought that they were going to make Z-man flee, raise the Hammer and Sickle banner over the capital in 3 days, and rule over Ukraine and its people.
They have been enduring daily slaughter for years now- sometimes intense.
All the Soviet armor they had left over is destroyed.
All their elite units were killed off long ago.
All their professional units are down to a skeleton crew of frightened and soon to be killed animals led by aloof Generals in golden palaces in Moscow jockeying for power.
Their jails are empty of lives to squander.
Buryats are extinct.
The Kadyrovites already looted enough toilets to deal with their shit and have left the battlefield.
Iran has deserted them in favor of their own regional power struggle, and even if they still wanted to help the Rooskies, the Rooskies can't pay due to sanctions.
Putin is begging the NORKs for bodies and shells, because the "shell hunger" is very real.
Does Russia have any nukes that aren't covered in 30 years of bird shit, and still work? I'll bet if he pushes the button, they would detonate right in place rather than launch.
Putin is also a lot more popular here, among The Deceived, than he is among his fellow Rooskie Animals. Wait until he tries to tap the Moscow suburbs for his next group singled out for extinction...
Eventually, he will die bloody in a ditch at the hands of his own people- just like The Brother Leader did.
^ His greatest fear.
Ukraine attacks Putin's prized Kerch bridge to Crimea
Ukraine's SBU security service said on Tuesday it had hit the road and rail bridge linking Russia and the Crimean peninsula below the water level with explosives.www.dailymail.co.uk
i only heard that they attacked a naval base. i don't know about damages...and i doubt we can trust whatever they want to tell us.
excellent synopsis of reality. hate answering the trolls. but here is my take on we MAGA like posters here. we don't all agree on every issue which is called freedom of speech and belief. American vets and non vets of varying age have awoken to the fact that most of what this gov has been doing for > 100 years was not being done for the American "people" or America. who benefited is a separate long discussion. many,not enough,Americans are realizing that all of these wars,esp Ukraine,have had nothing at all to do with "defending" America. the wars of choice over the last 100+ years,and i include WW1 & WW2 in that bunch,are for the benefit of those referred to above. and they have provided no security or defense in reality. eg the recent border invasion,admitting of numerous spies from our "friends" and enemies,sending trillions of $ overseas to guard our "allies",esp those in Europe. the propaganda that says "we have to stop XYZ because" has lost some of it's power. the level of media driven,purposeful social distractions remains active and unfortunately still successful.
Wasn’t asking you. If I wanted to listen to an asshole I’d fart.Soviet submarines sink all the time- it's completely unfair to blame this on Ukraine just because Putin is trying to grab some pounded mud in their east at the same time.
Even when they don't fold up and collapse at depth, they all have leaky reactors that kill off the crew (slowly).
Fun fact about the Soviet Navy up to today- they melt down reactors all the time and scuttle them all over the world. Google it.
...and despite what our own Navy Nukes will tell you- it's VERY hard to get a reactor to runaway on a warship, and they are usually only using a very small % of the power available at any given time.
Rooskie Animals have no clue in the world how to handle THE NUCLEAR, and they never did.
Tom Clancy wrote fiction.
Ukraine wins by default. Yes, by surviving. By not poking "The Bear" and goading Russia into heretofore unseen resolve to destroy you.
Russia thought that they were going to make Z-man flee, raise the Hammer and Sickle banner over the capital in 3 days, and rule over Ukraine and its people. This didn't happen because of American support, and because Russia made the same mistake the USA has made repeatedly, going in half-hearted.
They have been enduring daily slaughter for years now- sometimes intense. So has Ukraine. You are even more out of bodies than Russia is.
All the Soviet armor they had left over is destroyed. With American Javelins, paid for by me. And we're sick of paying for this idiocy.
All their elite units were killed off long ago. Using American arms and ammo and Green Beret training.
All their professional units are down to a skeleton crew of frightened and soon-to-be-killed animals led by aloof Generals in golden palaces in Moscow, jockeying for power. And yet you can't seem to take back a single foot of the territory Russia has gained. Why is that?
Their jails are empty of lives to squander. Oh I'm sure Russia mourns this one.
Buryats are extinct. World doesn't care.
The Kadyrovites already looted enough toilets to deal with their shit and have left the battlefield.
Iran has deserted them in favor of their own regional power struggle, and even if they still wanted to help the Rooskies, the Rooskies can't pay due to sanctions. Iran has never cared about anyone except Iran. They will always be Muslim first and only.
Putin is begging the NORKs for bodies and shells, because the "shell hunger" is very real. Because politically Putin can send NK soldiers to die and it costs Russia nothing. Because the nature of this war is who can last the longest. Something Z forgot.
Does Russia have any nukes that aren't covered in 30 years of bird shit, and still work? I'll bet if he pushes the button, they would detonate right in place rather than launch.
Putin is also a lot more popular here, among The Deceived, than he is among his fellow Rooskie Animals. Wait until he tries to tap the Moscow suburbs for his next group singled out for extinction... Here we are again, admitting that popular support being low among Russians is essential for Ukraine survival. So galvanizing them with deep territory strikes on their nuclear capability makes sense how? An act of war that would warrant annihilation coming from any Nuclear nation. Literally the one thing that causes the end of Ukraine fastest is the Russian people deciding that's what they want. And you just gave them a 9/11.
Eventually, he will die bloody in a ditch at the hands of his own people- just like The Brother Leader did.
^ His greatest fear. Oh please he's former KGB, he is not your normal milktoast politician. I doubt he fears anything except what his legacy will be when he is gone.
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ditto.
That’s still a pretty significant degradation to the air component of their nuclear triad. And if a sub ended up being hit….
Are you saying Russia is "the Bear" like England is "the Lion" and we are "the Eagle?"
Russia has no say in what happens to them, or what people do to them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
The expression "poking the bear" is not relevant. Why not? Its exactly what Ukraine just did. If someone in Finland sneezes or Estonia farts, their whole huge country might shatter and fragment into a dozen oligarch controlled fiefdoms- all claiming no responsibility for the disastarous SMO, or any connection to the Soviets. WTF does this sentence even mean or have to do with the poking the bear?
Russia needs to:
1) Withdraw to their own borders. Why should they, they are currently winning.
2) Worry about securing those borders (duh) before they try to capture any pounded mud, anywhere. See #1.
3) Reform their government (Commie Purge- Putin gets raped with a knife, all the Oligarchs who swindled the people following the nominal collapse back in the 90s get executed) Ukraine can't currently force Russia to take one step backwards, how will you ever decide who governs them?
4) Form a BRAND NEW CULTURE.
5) Start building a normal, modern, human civilization that serves their own people instead of waking up every day in a post-Communist, Soviet hellstate and blaming all their problems on the "deeply unfair" Western-dominated rules-based international order. Communism has consequences, and their people have lived them. At the same time, Russia is no longer a communist threat and has been unfairly treated as one for decades now.
Cry your eyes out that those Jav's didn't get fired into old hulks rusting in the impact area, but got used for the very purpose they were invented and manufactured for- putting Rooskie Animals in the dirt. They were made to keep America safe and you're lucky we share our toys.
I hope you're ready to keep taking it DEEP, Komrade! Ahh, homosexual accusations, the hallmark of intelligence in an argument.
I think if folks read a little more about Catherine the Great, the Pale of Settlement, and similar tales from the other 108 countries - they'd realize that while Russia may not be our friend per se, we do share some common problems; and if we worked together some of those problems could be exposed and maybe solved.
They were likely on ground long before the start of the conflict.
Wouldn't a 9/11 be flying jet liners into civilian skyscrapers? I thought the zigger lovers in here equated destroying their strategic to pearl harbor? But wouldn't that be full scale bombing a naval/air base and killing +2400 troops while not currently engaged in a hot war? Or are we just throwing out memorable bad things? Is the attack on the Kerch bridge the holocaust of bombings?
Yes, everyone knows this - Russia gave up the world's 3rd nuclear potential and signed the Budapest Memorandum because it did not want a nuclear war.
Соси хуй, Ваня.
I would postulate that U.S. SF is active there and has been for some time. U.S. biolabs as well. Massive money laundering. Ukraine is a honey pot of corruption for the west.
Bro even the russian troll farms completely gave up on the biolab narrative after like a month and move to other talking points
since the 50's.
Seriously, ad hominem attacks?? You have done nothing but call Gunfighter grandpa, or boomer, or whatever. No real argument with him at all, just names. I called you an idiot because you are one, and told you why you are. Strawman? Seriously??? Its not a strawman argument to say Ukraine can't win, just survive. Its the truth. And here we discover the fundamental problem with your position. You have not accepted as truth that Ukraine cannot defeat Russia.
I never said Russia didn't start it. I also never said Russia was right to invade. I disagree with both.
Ukraine gave Russia a 9/11, as in an event that galvanizes the citizens behind the desire to make war. They did so with an attack that changed their position on the battlefield fucking zero. It gained Ukraine NOTHING. Not a foot of ground. Not another day. Nothing. But it sure pissed Russia off. Great move. Why should we fund you again?
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