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I firmly believe you are correct on the shot placement. It was a shot to the voice box of a man they feared because they couldn’t beat him verbally-so they silenced him eternally.Kirk went behind enemy lines regularly and looked evil in the face. I believe he knew the risk. He is with his creator tonight.
I don't think the neck shot was a miss. It was done for maximum effect by a professional. It was meant to instill fear in the next person that might pick up the flag and carry on Kirk's cause.
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You’re probably right about that.
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After all, we are quite the tribalists that deify our champions and vilify the other.
There’s more than enough evidence to show there’s a lot of malice coming from both sides.
Right on Left, Left on Right.
Imagine, seeing Left on Left as well as Right on Right vitriol.
props to the yankees for having some respect.
Only if youre conservative.ANY political figure that has advocated violence in the recent past from Maxine Twaters on down needs to be arrested and tried. Last I knew inciting violence IS A CRIME. No?
They only have to get lucky onceIf you have a semi novice shooter that is familiar enough to aim and shoot with some accuracy involved, that same person probably would not know to correct the hold. Eventually we will probably get more information, but for now, that is a plausible scenario.
You really put quite the stretch on that oneI firmly believe you are correct on the shot placement. It was a shot to the voice box of a man they feared because they couldn’t beat him verbally-so they silenced him eternally.
it wasn't some 12 yo with a cheap AR and red dot as one here has said. my uninformed guess is chest sighting that went high because angle wasn't considered? i don't think a pro or skilled hitter would take a neck aim. too chancy even @ 200. even a head shot is a chance unless shooter knew he was in plates. is the plate story true? if so,that changes the possibilities of a lot of things. damn sure it wasn't an air rifle.Kirk went behind enemy lines regularly and looked evil in the face. I believe he knew the risk. He is with his creator tonight.
I don't think the neck shot was a miss. It was done for maximum effect by a professional. It was meant to instill fear in the next person that might pick up the flag and carry on Kirk's cause.
right?Pretty much, it's normal people vs insanity
I am loving the conspiracy theories being spun across the net right now. Most are saying this "mistake" was intentional to help the shooter. I think my favorite (NOTE: NOT SAYING MOST PLAUSIBLE, JUST WHAT I FIND FUNNY) so far is that it was a Mossad false flag attack to keep America focused on its own issues.I was disappointed to hear the FBI Director say we have the subject, and to reverse that later. Could this disrupt the investigation to capture the assassin? Did resources shift gears when they heard this giving the shooter more time?
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Do you objectively agree with this list?
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Do you objectively agree with this list and these quotes?
Try and get a grip on what?Not the assassin, the bankroller.
Has been under investigation for weeks and this is retribution.
Try and get a grip.
Lol...all the LLM's like chatgpt do is scrape the internet of all the mainstream positions on things so it pretty much regurgitates leftist/commie talking pointsView attachment 8764912
This was my ChatGPT query. I didn't specify Conservative or Liberal.
I can ask Grok the same question if that AI better fits your worldview?
If he shot from where people are saying it is more like 140yd and from 45' elevation at 140yds it would be just over 6* down. I don't think elevation had anything to do with POI...or VERY little.30* down at 200 yards with a 143 6.5cm I get 0.3 vs 0.5 flat. What’s that, 1.4” high?
Here is Grok’s response.
These are all objective quotes. It’s your fault if they get sand in your cooter.
Negative. Only a small percentage of people have an arterial passageway between the two hemispheres of the brain large/wide enough to support that.
30 degrees down is much different then 30 foot up.30* down at 200 yards with a 143 6.5cm I get 0.3 vs 0.5 flat. What’s that, 1.4” high?
AmenI liked him. Always had the dems on thier heals back tracking the BS they spew. This day I am changed. It's past time for pay back and as of now....every fucking democrat is on my shit list. Im ready to kick this off anytime they want.
Hayden.
More likely it was some amped up moron wobbling like a mother fucker and they happened to make an effective shot. Stupid fucks think an air force special agent space SEAL shot trump perfectly in the ear on purpose alsoWhat context? There is no context. Samuel Whitepower objectively stated that ANY politician that incites violence should be prosecuted. I wholeheartedly agree. Not my fault that his favorite politicians are on the list of having done just that.
Right on time.
Stop noticing!!
And tomorrow we will all go to work and forget about this.
We will say strong words to hope they will stop
We will say our guns will keep us free....
We will never use our guns to stop tyranny
Most of us will never use our guns to hunt.
Most of us will never use our guns to shoot more than a few rounds each year to impress our friends.
Most of us will never even take a day off work to protest any of this and pretend we have to work because of bills and such.
We are lost as a white conservative people.
Doc
Probably, not going to even bother checking. Someone got a reply anywayI think you replied to the wrong guy.
But if rumors are correct, someone who can make a 200 yard cold bore shot that impacts just above the sternal notch, drunk or Parky or not, is someone I want on my team.
Disagree max effect would be face shot with massive result in back. Neck shot carotid low percentage cold bore even for the more skilled shooters. No one wants to think about being shot in the headKirk went behind enemy lines regularly and looked evil in the face. I believe he knew the risk. He is with his creator tonight.
I don't think the neck shot was a miss. It was done for maximum effect by a professional. It was meant to instill fear in the next person that might pick up the flag and carry on Kirk's cause.
Yes they were actual quotes but they were edited by MSM goons...so yes the AI picked up actual (out of context) quotes that were trimmed/commented on by msm and that's what it provided you. If you don't understand how unreliable AI can be then you should probably sit the next few plays out.I didn't realize actual quotes and words spoken from a politician's mouth was just a talking point made up by mainstream media? All I asked was for examples of quotes. You're the one ascribing some nonexistent agenda behind it.
I cannot stress enough once again that this stupid picture of a pellet gun is not what shot Charlie Kirk.
It was a big boy gun that made the shot. Not a .22 cal pellet gun.
It was closer to 140 yards and you know darn well anyone on this forum could hit center of a pie tin at that range, and someone with no experience could watch a few YouTube videos, a few hours at a range, and hit the same shot. People are trying to determine if he had a suppressor like he's some clandestine assassin when he dressed in all black, ran across a blue sky on a roof for everyone to see. If there was a proper presidential detail there he would have been shot dead a quarter through that run.I think you replied to the wrong guy.
But if rumors are correct, someone who can make a 200 yard cold bore shot that impacts just above the sternal notch, drunk or Parky or not, is someone I want on my team.
I don’t either. Just putting some numbers to the speculation to show even if it was extreme it didn’t matter.If he shot from where people are saying it is more like 140yd and from 45' elevation at 140yds it would be just over 6* down. I don't think elevation had anything to do with POI...or VERY little.
prob a bunch of "conspiracy theories" coming out? likely. how many currently active Epstein,RFK,JFK,MLK,9/11,Iraq,Tonkin,Trump x 2,1/6 have been proven wrong?I am loving the conspiracy theories being spun across the net right now. Most are saying this "mistake" was intentional to help the shooter. I think my favorite (NOTE: NOT SAYING MOST PLAUSIBLE, JUST WHAT I FIND FUNNY) so far is that it was a Mossad false flag attack to keep America focused on its own issues.
Can yall imagine a Mossad hitter getting told to take a chipshot in a shit position and then run across the roof afterwards?
Don't our intel agencies have all kinds of fancy acoustic software than can analyze sound recordings from multiple cell phones/sources then triangulate the general location and distance of the shooter?CF long gun for sure. At first it was stated up close pistol. Then videos started coming out, and most were swinging to locations further away.
Thats not quite true... there is a lot of data cleaning and prompt engineering that goes into most model creation to work around that... Its how you can end up with models pivoting sharply like Grok and it's MegaHitler phase. lol Its also why people should cross check across models.Lol...all the LLM's like chatgpt do is scrape the internet of all the mainstream positions on things so it pretty much regurgitates leftist/commie talking points
Y’all have way too much faith in camera systems being 100% operational everywhere.Don't our intel agencies have all kinds of fancy acoustic software than can analyze sound recordings from multiple cell phones/sources then triangulate the general location and distance of the shooter?
This asshole should be fairly easy to find especially considering all the cameras on campuses these days.
True but most of these "mainstream" models are trained on mainstream sources, etc. so they spit out mainstream positions on things...if trained differently they would produce a different output...I was speaking in generalities b/c I also don't want to get into a data science discussion outside of work hours.Thats not quite true... there is a lot of data cleaning and prompt engineering that goes into most model creation to work around that... Its how you can end up with models pivoting sharply like Grok and it's MegaHitler phase. lol Its also why people should cross check across models.
But I dont really wanna get into a data science discussion outside of work hours, and especially not in this thread.
Haha not really...I just find it hard to believe someone could get a long gun within a few hundred yards of an on campus event and not a single camera would catch them. They would need a somewhat stable shooting position to pull this shot off....it's not like it was a walk by with a handgunY’all have way too much faith in camera systems being 100% operational everywhere.
If Charlie is a target, who denounced violence, let the left speak openly and responded respectfully, we are all targets on this side.
Thats not quite true... there is a lot of data cleaning and prompt engineering that goes into most model creation to work around that... Its how you can end up with models pivoting sharply like Grok and it's MegaHitler phase. lol Its also why people should cross check across models.
But I dont really wanna get into a data science discussion outside of work hours, and especially not in this thread.
to be honest, i don't really know what "moderate right" means.
this isn't left and right "politics" anymore like we grew up with, it is fucking good against evil.
Y’all have way too much faith in camera systems being 100% operational everywhere.
Typical FBI “incompetence”
using chatGPT,wiki,google,AI to get detailed,accurate,unprejudiced info? hilarious. have you gotten your new social credit score?Here is Grok’s response.
These are all objective quotes. It’s your fault if they get sand in your cooter.