Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

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atomic41 said:
Ok thanks for that. Based on that article he's the 2nd coming of hitler so I have to assume he's ruffling feathers but not an extremist as they are making him out to be? Or is he?
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He definitely holds views that are not widely held about Israel.

He definitely intentionally irritates the left and also anyone he perceived to be a zionist.

The left is spinning a narrative that CK and TPUSA had massive investments from Jewish donors and CK was being pressured by them to spin the public perception back in favor of Netanyahu and the state of Israel.

So, anyone they can point to that has conflicted with CK in the past about this issue is being targeted to build the msm narrative
 
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Maggot said:
The bombing of the Houston Public Radio Station.

When the KKK bombed a Houston Radio Station… Twice!​

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2023年10月11日 — The Houston radio station KPFT (90.1) was bombed not once, but twice in 1970 shortly after they began broadcasting.
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Started reading a book about a local to me prohibition era gangster(s) Brothers Notorious, The Sheltons. There are many stories about the KKK being used by Glen Young a Dept of the Treasury Prohibition Unit officer to enforce those laws. In light of this I wouldn't automatically place the KKK with "right wing". Democrats formed the Klan. The most important difference to me is that most conservatives do not agree with white supremacy ideology.

Sorry a little of topic. Wasn't sure if you were adding that as "right wing" violence.
 
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MaximusDecimusMeidius said:
He definitely holds views that are not widely held about Israel.

He definitely intentionally irritates the left and also anyone he perceived to be a zionist.

The left is spinning a narrative that CK and TPUSA had massive investments from Jewish donors and CK was being pressured by them to spin the public perception back in favor of Netanyahu and the state of Israel.

So, anyone they can point to that has conflicted with CK in the past about this issue is being targeted to build the msm narrative
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Thanks, this helps me understand the narrative.
 
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DuneBoer said:
Yeah man. What's the chances something might?... Nevermind. I'm going to stay away from vigils and and crowds for now.
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Nah man. F*** them. Dont let them do that to you. Thats exactly what they want. That’s terrorism in a nutshell. disrupt your movements through instilling fear. F*** that. I just don’t want nothing happening to the POTUS. Just gotta keep our heads on a swivel.
 
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LRRPF52 said:
I ran the ballistics on a 165gr .30-06 at that elevation and temperature, and it still has over 2000ft-lbs, even a flat-based soft point with low BC of .387 G1.

Normally when you see a high velocity missile in .30 cal weight classes impact tissue at 2348fps with over 2000ft-lbs, it’s a lot more violent than what we saw. Severe traumatic avulsion, separation of connected tissues, massive blood and tissue splatter all over.

The inside of the tent would have been a blood bath I think.

That’s what still bothers me about the terminal ballistics side of this.

If a rifle shooter used a reduced load, maybe it would manifest that type of injury, but the entrance looks awfully large for a .30 cal.
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I hit an Antelope with my 30-06 using 168 Berger VLD hunting in the neck and it was basically a through and through pencil hole. Antelope dropped like a stone.

Having killed my share of animals, I saw nothing unusual. It simply looked to me like a bullet that hit a shallow soft tissue area and the carotid artery penciling through.

 
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MaximusDecimusMeidius said:
What are the odds that the assassin was influenced by a group with Marxist ideology?

Armed Queers of Salt Lake City?

Socialist Rifle Association?

What is our confidence level of Kash Patel's f b i discovering any connections and motivations that may exist?
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Regarding Kash-

Absolutely zero

Did you hear that (Patel) dumb bastard in that first press conference?

How many times did he say "at my direction..." and try to pump up how well the Eff Bee Eye performed. What a joke.

Edited to clarify
 
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MaximusDecimusMeidius said:
What are the odds that the assassin was influenced by a group with Marxist ideology?

Armed Queers of Salt Lake City?

Socialist Rifle Association?

What is our confidence level of Kash Patel's f b i discovering any connections and motivations that may exist?
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If the guy was active on the internet then he probably posted and communicated with those groups the same way we post on all sorts of gun forums. I wouldn't be surprised if some of his close friends and his faggot lover had advance knowledge of what he planned to do.
 
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BCP said:
If the guy was active on the internet then he probably posted and communicated with those groups the same way we post on all sorts of gun forums. I wouldn't be surprised if some of his close friends and his faggot lover had advance knowledge of what he planned to do.
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100%. Literally ZERO chance he kept that a secret.. guaranteed he had help / encouragement to throughout the process. He didn’t even go to that school.

There’s more people involved for sure
 
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LRRPF52 said:
I ran the ballistics on a 165gr .30-06 at that elevation and temperature, and it still has over 2000ft-lbs, even a flat-based soft point with low BC of .387 G1.

Normally when you see a high velocity missile in .30 cal weight classes impact tissue at 2348fps with over 2000ft-lbs, it’s a lot more violent than what we saw. Severe traumatic avulsion, separation of connected tissues, massive blood and tissue splatter all over.

The inside of the tent would have been a blood bath I think.

That’s what still bothers me about the terminal ballistics side of this.

If a rifle shooter used a reduced load, maybe it would manifest that type of injury, but the entrance looks awfully large for a .30 cal.
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I feel like a lot of commenters here haven’t actually shot many targets with blood in them.

The bullet and the target both act unpredictably at times.
 
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I will say that our youth were exceptionally active in church today, to the point that they broke out singing “The Goodness of God.” It was pretty impressive to see, particularly because there was not an adult prompting them. Some of this younger generation understands what is going on.
 
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Sgtsideways said:
So it looks like we are going to have copy cat crap starting.

https://justthenews.com/nation/stat...n-political-left-social-media-posts-list-next

This article is the missing piece of the puzzle with regard to little tyler:

justthenews.com

Charlie Kirk murder suspect lived with trans partner who is cooperating with investigators: sources

Details slowly emerge about the life of the suspect who allegedly shot and killed Charlie Kirk.
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lol JOE ROGAN? He’s the most left of center mother fucker in the world
 
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faylix said:
I'm probably the worst shooter here, but in my attempt to understand what happened, I tried to replicate this shot.

Caveats: I know that 30.06 and 77gr smks have different flight paths, I know he was shooting from a downward angle which can cause low hits, etc 10 other things I haven't thought of.

When I first saw it happen I was sure it was a single rifle shot - what I didn't initially understand was why someone would aim for the neck (thinnest / smallest target). I also guessed the round was a 308 (it wasn't, but close enough). A human head is about 8" tall on average, if someone aimed right between the eyes (body armor, no formal training) I loaded up my Hornady app and 4doff and I figured that a regular 762 drops about 5" at 200 yards.

So my initial guess was that the shooter aimed at his head (or his mouth) and didn't account for bullet drop and the round impacted in the clavicle (about 5" low) and the spall from the armor hit (likely some kind of steel plate with no kevlar backing or rhino liner / spall control) his carotid artery.

So I setup a man shaped target at 200 yards, with a 20" barrel and 77gr OTMs, zero'd for 100 yards and aimed right at the center of the head.
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The impacts were almost exactly where you see in the video:

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Dont mind the follow up shots at the two small targets, those (poor) shots were me later trying to actually figure out my 200 yard hold over.

The vast majority of shots group up perfectly in the (shooters) right clavicle - right where the initial impact appear to be. Rounds impacting shaped body armor right there with no spall control could absolutely result in spall impacting the carotid artery - which is what I saw on the close up video.

Note: I mourn the death of Charlie Kirk, I hate that politics has gotten to this point. I think the us vs them mentality is the strongest best attack anyone has ever used against America and the only way we could be defeated or marginalized is by our own internal strife.

I didn't do this (admittedly poorly conducted) experiment out of sick fascination - I just wanted to understand what happened and verify the facts for myself.

I now believe that almost anyone with moderate firearms experience on a flat range and a little luck could have made this shot. There is nothing special about zero'ing for 100 yards, putting the crosshairs on someone's face, and squeezing the trigger. The idea that this shot required some kind of pro is laughable in hindsight.

The infil/successful exfil is what made me think this was the work of a zealot and not a crazy - and the fact we only got him so fast because his dad turned him in supports this.

Also, trying to blame Israel / the Mossad / Jews for this one is pretty thin and beneath most of you.

Charlie was a friend to us.

Regards,
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Not being a dick just factual, but the experiment really means nothing with 90% of the variables changed
 
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After watching and filtering info for the past few days, I'm convinced the .gov is lying to us again.

If I was a leftist assassin, I damn sure wouldn't waste getaway time by breaking a bolt action rifle down for a more easily portable package. Why even reassemble it later to just ditch it? The intended job of the murder weapon was already satisfied.

As others have pointed out from the photo of the reported murder weapon, the scope is waaay far back in the rings. Anyone 6ft tall that shoulders that and sends a round is going to have some serious scope eye.

How many other murder victims have you seen thrown in a casket so quickly? Normally, at least a week goes by for a detailed autopsy documenting bullet path/s to determine the direction of the shots.

We are being played again.
 
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Holliday said:
I hit an Antelope with my 30-06 using 168 Berger VLD hunting in the neck and it was basically a through and through pencil hole. Antelope dropped like a stone.

Having killed my share of animals, I saw nothing unusual. It simply looked to me like a bullet that hit a shallow soft tissue area and the carotid artery penciling through.

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I once knew a man who shot more deer than anyone I've ever known. Many of them illegally but that's beside the point. He always hunted with a Rem 700 22-250. He said he would not shoot unless he could get a neck shot. DRT every time. Usually in their tracks, and never had to track any.
 
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Longshot231 said:
I'm not sure if this it true or not. Charlie's widow is supposedly pregnant with her third child.

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Shocking Revelation Amid Heartbreak: Charlie Kirk’s Widow Discovers She’s Pregnant with Their Third Child as Husband’s Kill** Remains at Large—Will She Keep the Baby in Her Darkest Hour? - News

In a moment that would shatter any soul, Erika Kirk, the wife of prominent conservative commentator Charlie Kirk, was rushed to the hospital, overcome with
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Gotta be fake. That reads like a National Enquirer headline ..
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Longshot231 said:
I'm not sure if this it true or not. Charlie's widow is supposedly pregnant with her third child.

fnnewsupdate.com

Shocking Revelation Amid Heartbreak: Charlie Kirk’s Widow Discovers She’s Pregnant with Their Third Child as Husband’s Kill** Remains at Large—Will She Keep the Baby in Her Darkest Hour? - News

In a moment that would shatter any soul, Erika Kirk, the wife of prominent conservative commentator Charlie Kirk, was rushed to the hospital, overcome with
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This article.......... :rolleyes:

"Will She Keep the Baby in Her Darkest Hour?"

FFS. She's a Christian. Widow of Charlie Kirk. (Potentially) Carrying another one of Charlie's children.

Do these idiots think she's going to abort it ? Gawd, people are stupid.

edit; I'm leaning in the same direction as others. Gotta(?) be fake........ :unsure:
 
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gigamortis said:
After watching and filtering info for the past few days, I'm convinced the .gov is lying to us again.

If I was a leftist assassin, I damn sure wouldn't waste getaway time by breaking a bolt action rifle down for a more easily portable package. Why even reassemble it later to just ditch it? The intended job of the murder weapon was already satisfied.

As others have pointed out from the photo of the reported murder weapon, the scope is waaay far back in the rings. Anyone 6ft tall that shoulders that and sends a round is going to have some serious scope eye.

How many other murder victims have you seen thrown in a casket so quickly? Normally, at least a week goes by for a detailed autopsy documenting bullet path/s to determine the direction of the shots.

We are being played again.
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Who said it was disassembled? Guess I missed that

As for the scope, I feel like you haven’t been to many public ranges
 
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gigamortis said:
After watching and filtering info for the past few days, I'm convinced the .gov is lying to us again.

If I was a leftist assassin, I damn sure wouldn't waste getaway time by breaking a bolt action rifle down for a more easily portable package. Why even reassemble it later to just ditch it? The intended job of the murder weapon was already satisfied.

As others have pointed out from the photo of the reported murder weapon, the scope is waaay far back in the rings. Anyone 6ft tall that shoulders that and sends a round is going to have some serious scope eye.

How many other murder victims have you seen thrown in a casket so quickly? Normally, at least a week goes by for a detailed autopsy documenting bullet path/s to determine the direction of the shots.

We are being played again.
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That’s because all the photos you seen have been doctored.

Through my super Secret Pinky swear sources and my family of CIA members( burt g can confirm) I have acquired the actual mug shot picture taken and yes, he did scope himself. We all owe trrry cross a blizzard.

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It’s such a good thing we have people like you that fight for America and stand up and take down this evil oppressive government that does nothing but lie to us and Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews
 
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Threadcutter308 said:
This article.......... :rolleyes:

"Will She Keep the Baby in Her Darkest Hour?"

FFS. She's a Christian. Widow of Charlie Kirk. (Potentially) Carrying another one of Charlie's children.

Do these idiots think she's going to abort it ? Gawd, people are stupid.

edit; I'm leaning in the same direction as others. Gotta(?) be fake........ :unsure:
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I think they are talking about a stress-induced miscarriage…

Sirhr
 
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mtrmn said:
I once knew a man who shot more deer than anyone I've ever known. Many of them illegally but that's beside the point. He always hunted with a Rem 700 22-250. He said he would not shoot unless he could get a neck shot. DRT every time. Usually in their tracks, and never had to track any.
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I’ve got a buddy that swears by it. Never did it because 95% of my shots the deer wouldn’t go 10 yards. Fast forward 2 years ago, took sight, squeezed the trigger, hit right where I was aiming, saw the deer mule kick, so I knew I made a quality shot, got down earlier than I should have, but I shot at last light, so wanted to get a head start on retrieving the deer. Walked in where I saw him go, heard him get up and take off. Called my wife, son, and mother in law in to track the animal. All we ever found was 3 pin head 🩸. Never did find that deer. Messed my hunt up that year because I don’t like not recovering what I put my crosshairs on. Following year, said fuck it, I’ll try the neck shot. It was the most amazing thing to witness as the deer crumpled right on top of itself. Didn’t move at all. Going forward, it will be my shot of choice. With the 6.5 creedmore, it was pencil in, pencil out, almost no blood.🩸
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sirhrmechanic said:
I think they are talking about a stress-induced miscarriage…

Sirhr
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Could be, but they certainly could have worded it better. They could have said something along the lines of;

"Will She be able to keep the Baby in Her Darkest Hour ?"

Is this where I get to rag about our marvelous "education system" ?
 
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notacos4u said:
I’ve got a buddy that swears by it. Never did it because 95% of my shots the deer wouldn’t go 10 yards. Fast forward 2 years ago, took sight, squeezed the trigger, hit right where I was aiming, saw the deer mule kick, so I knew I made a quality shot, got down earlier than I should have, but I shot at last light, so wanted to get a head start on retrieving the deer. Walked in where I saw him go, heard him get up and take off. Called my wife, son, and mother in law in to track the animal. All we ever found was 3 pin head 🩸. Never did find that deer. Messed my hunt up that year because I don’t like not recovering what I put my crosshairs on. Following year, said fuck it, I’ll try the neck shot. It was the most amazing thing to witness as the deer crumpled right on top of itself. Didn’t move at all. Going forward, it will be my shot of choice. With the 6.5 creedmore, it was pencil in, pencil out, almost no blood.🩸 View attachment 8767599
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I popped a sow like that back in 2011. Bunch of them quartering away L to R at 200-ish. Hit the lead sow with a 142gn SMK from my 6.5x47 in the neck right in front of her shoulders. Truth i just lead her too much but she crumbled like a pallet of bricks landed on her. DRT. Penciled in and out. Very little blood. Blew my mind.


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mtrmn said:
I once knew a man who shot more deer than anyone I've ever known. Many of them illegally but that's beside the point. He always hunted with a Rem 700 22-250. He said he would not shoot unless he could get a neck shot. DRT every time. Usually in their tracks, and never had to track any.
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That’s what I do neck shots only…
 
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akmike47 said:
Who said it was disassembled? Guess I missed that

As for the scope, I feel like you haven’t been to many public ranges
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The video footage of the suspected shooter descending from the roof and jumping to the ground definitely does not show a visible assembled rifle length object of any sort on his person. Even if we were to believe the rifle to have been disassembled for transport to the shooting position, reassembling it and expecting the same zero as before is a crap shoot. I've seen zero's at 100 yards shift by 2-3 inches when an action is removed from a cheap factory stock and reassembled.
 
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gigamortis said:
The video footage of the suspected shooter descending from the roof and jumping to the ground definitely does not show a visible assembled rifle length object of any sort on his person. Even if we were to believe the rifle to have been disassembled for transport to the shooting position, reassembling it and expecting the same zero as before is a crap shoot. I've seen zero's at 100 yards shift by 2-3 inches when an action is removed from a cheap factory stock and reassembled.
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It’s wrapped up and he drops it off the roof then pics it up…the videos on this thread
 
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