Someone murdered Charlie Kirk
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Or as someone else mentioned, frangible.
This is why I keep asking if anybody knows what type of ammo was used, though I hadn’t said it it was in the back of my mind.
You made me realize I needed to edit my post. I typed “165SMK” instead of what I meant to say, which is “165 Sierra Game King.” I did not hunt with SMKs, but have shot a lot of the .338 300gr SMKs at targets in later years, so SMK was what popped into my head when I typed that.
The shit I got werent frangible but they sure acted like it. They had a polymer tips, but worked too well. I should also mention it was a .243 so it was zooming.
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interesting thoughts,ie fake gov generated texts, which have been discussed on young turks and other hard lefty YT channels. and,yes,i look at some. not listening to your opponents is a big mistake many on the rt make. Trump,Rubio and many others make that mistake. got us into Ukraine i think. Tucker seems to listen and that is 1 thing i like about his work. people who didn't listen to Hitler,Mao,Ho,Ben Laden et al paid a price later.
that these texts could be FBI disinfo is not out in the wilds. they could do it. would they and for what reason? that is the question. if these are plants, which we will never know,then the whole things goes way into the deep conspiracy world.
Not necessarily lots of times they just go poof and leave a black mark(esp high velocity bullets), also none of us are over there doing forensics there could be a “crater” for all we know. And then we don’t have footage of his back or access to the autopsy report. We’re all talking out our asses here tbh, just like the YouTubers people keep posting.
It’ll come out at trial. He could’ve used some special ammo, he obviously planned it out with his goofy fag friends.
People also forget bullets do weird things sometimes. I had several out of a box of 100 that were all loaded and inspected the same buzz flying down range. It sounded similar to those fireworks that spin real fast and take off like a helicopter.
I’ve found .30 bullets in animals shoulders that didn’t do much damage, and had been there long enough for the wound to heal
I’ve found .30 bullets in animals shoulders that didn’t do much damage, and had been there long enough for the wound to heal
No need to church it up saying “very specialized” it’s just a frangible bullet not super secret CIA tech
I have spent a ton of time around LEO. My best friend is one for 20+ years .
To anyone who knows, that first line is as damning, as it is credible. It can go either way and the ones who are most likely to post something like this online, are the very least credible.
First we say this guy is mentally ill (obviously) and part of an antisocial subculture- then we pretend to know how he would think and speak.
This is like finding body parts in Jeffrey Dahmer‘s freezer and saying “Well folks don’t cut people up and put them in the freezer. They must’ve been planted”.
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I have shot a good number of varmint and frangible ammo and they don’t go “poof” and disappear in 6-10” of flesh in .30 weights.
More specifically, it would have taken out a large portion from the back of the neck.
I agree on a deer shoulder with fairly good bone.
Not a person’s neck.
To me, the wound could definitely be 30-06 caused. The bullet probably didn’t slow down but a tick and kept happily on its way. Hopefully, it is found where it went. You can bet minds and software are working it out if not already solved.
I can’t account for the no exit wound, If there is not an exit wound. I don’t know that yet and I don’t believe Candice.
i could easily believe a fmj or dangerous game hunting bullet passing through without expanding. Leaving a small or even large exit wound.
On the other hand I can believe a light varmint bullet could possibly not exit. On the extreme end of light bullets is an Accelerator sabot with 22 caliber projectile. But I doubt he used a sabot round.
Then for the most common rounds, I can’t imagine how any 30-06 firing a 165 ish bullet would not exit a human.
And my last thought, albeit a wild thought, is this, a slight downward angle of the alleged shot, entering and hitting the slightly curved portion of the spine, could the bullet have curved downward into the back? Unlikely, but maybe possible?
There is an exit albeit not visible as the back armor absorbed the energy, hence the violent push back into the chair suggesting the energy transfer.
I'm not watching the video again to figure it out.
I'm not sure of what was directly behind him in the bullet path but it could have just buried in the ground/grass to never be found. The bullet may have just gone through soft tissue and the artery witch is not very deep. With the flesh severed and the pressure from impact of the bullet and regular blood pressure may have caused what was seen in the video. I've seen a couple arterial wounds that spurted pretty good.
Does anybody have a link to a report from somebody like a medical examiner? Or are we still basing the wound analysis off blurry videos?
I’m of the I don’t think he was hit with ‘06 crowd.
Not that I know anything about, but I think whatever he was hit with lodged in his spine.
I think the old man and the guy driving around with a BB gun are odd
coincidences. I think the tranny love note wraps things up too neatly.
No idea what actually happened, but I call bullshit on the story we were given
Not that I know anything about, but I think whatever he was hit with lodged in his spine.
I think the old man and the guy driving around with a BB gun are odd
coincidences. I think the tranny love note wraps things up too neatly.
No idea what actually happened, but I call bullshit on the story we were given
I thought so as well, and almost put that in my previous post. In all of these leftist-involved shootings we've seen over the years, I can't remember one who used anything remotely "precision", or "specialty." If it really is an '06, I'm guessing it was cheap FMJ and there is a smallish exit wound we don't know about yet (assuming no armor, which I still believe to be the case). If he had armor, yeah I could see the angle of the trajectory possibly directing it down into the upper back and being stopped from exiting his shirt by a rear plate, but there still would be an exit wound in the skin under the plate.
Because they are no longer God’s chosen people. They aren’t even Jewish.
Blurry videos rule man! It’s only 2025, we don’t have high quality video cameras available to civilians yet.
Stream of thought follows. I am not bashing anyone here, this is how men behave and hash things out.
If it was the kid and it was an 06, it would leave an exit, period. A Vmax or Barnes varmint bullet or similar would have nearly decapitated him. Any medium hunting bullet would exit, full stop.
The video could be an actual strike with an 06. Not saying it isn’t or that one of the other theories about a .22 close up wasn’t or is. It is the theory that a 06 bullet vaporized in a human neck that is ludicrous. Anyone who hunts knows this.
A projectile at that angle would likely have went in the ground.
There was no armor worn by Kirk.
For the love of all that is holy, there wasn’t any armor
can’t believe anyone has to keep saying this.
Now, to me the more pressing questions surround was this kid a lone perpetrator or did he like many others succumb to Manchurian Candidate manipulation
If it was the kid and it was an 06, it would leave an exit, period. A Vmax or Barnes varmint bullet or similar would have nearly decapitated him. Any medium hunting bullet would exit, full stop.
The video could be an actual strike with an 06. Not saying it isn’t or that one of the other theories about a .22 close up wasn’t or is. It is the theory that a 06 bullet vaporized in a human neck that is ludicrous. Anyone who hunts knows this.
A projectile at that angle would likely have went in the ground.
There was no armor worn by Kirk.
For the love of all that is holy, there wasn’t any armor
can’t believe anyone has to keep saying this.Now, to me the more pressing questions surround was this kid a lone perpetrator or did he like many others succumb to Manchurian Candidate manipulation
Yeah. Logic would say that we would get more videos released , and better or full resolution versions available.
My first reaction/assessment after seeing the video the first time was: suppressed .223, probably shooting cheap range ammo (55gr FMJ, etc), definite spinal cord damage (CNS symptoms were apparent), and fatal carotid (+/- jugular) severance. No exit wound apparent, so I could believe a direct spine hit could stop it.
Now with the evidence that they are presenting, I've tried to adjust my assessment to see if I can make it fit...
NOT suppressed? Someone here noted that the FFP was from behind the edge of the roof, so the roof blocked a lot of the report, plus cellphone mic compression. Yeah, I could see that.
NOT .223, but .30-06? Hmm, lots of experience shooting things with the '06 since I was a kid makes this one a lot harder. I just don't see "no exit wound" in any scenario I can come up with BASED on what little we know. If there really were plates (I can see ZERO evidence of any), or there really is an exit wound (neither of which we know for sure) then I can see that as well.
When I first watched it before any information was offered, my initial thought was handgun actually.
Stream of thought follows. I am not bashing anyone here, this is how men behave and hash things out.
If it was the kid and it was an 06, it would leave an exit, period. A Vmax or Barnes varmint bullet or similar would have nearly decapitated him. Any medium hunting bullet would exit, full stop.
The video could be an actual strike with an 06. Not saying it isn’t or that one of the other theories about a .22 close up wasn’t or is. It is the theory that a 06 bullet vaporized in a human neck that is ludicrous. Anyone who hunts knows this.
A projectile at that angle would likely have went in the ground.
There was no armor worn by Kirk.
For the love of all that is holy, there wasn’t any armor
Now, to me the more pressing questions surround was this kid a lone perpetrator or did he like many others succumb to Manchurian Candidate manipulation
Appreciate the clarification. If no armor, just having a hard time wrapping my head around the amount of energy transfer.
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