Someone murdered Charlie Kirk
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You suffer from reading comprehension problems? I responded to your comment. This is the Pit bub, since when are we worried about someone’s feelers getting hurt and threads getting deleted? And who’s feelings are your worried about? It’s definitely aint Jews or Israelis.…Half this freakin thread is about Jews. I just posted something a few of you didn’t like.. you guys will get over it.
Now we can both agree that we can get back to Charlie Kirk and radical leftist that deleted him.
Just to refresh your memory
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His decorticate movement was from upper motor neuron injury of midbrain, not spine. Was that cavitation from bullet energy or angle of trajectory?
ultimately likely what it was. there are enough reasonable questions and some off the wall. the issue is IMHO that we voted for open,truthful transparent detail on significant events. we haven't gotten it since early 20th cent. as tax paying,voting citizens,i believe we are owed by the gov answers to any question,no matter how outlandish. because a pair of "conservatives" are running the FBI that doesn't change. the bunch that were investigating concerned GS mothers is still employed. do you think their world view has changed? their willingness to play NKVD changed? doubt anything has changed. so,no,any wild assed conspiracy theory has long legs until they can show their honesty. JFK,RFK,MLK,9/11,OKC,Tonkin,Pearl Harbor,Iraq +++ all await clarification. not holding my breath.
don't doubt it. cutting into or transecting a major artery-carotid,subclavian,axillary,bracheal etc will beat spinal injury as COD. might not even be obvious in field but until autopsy. ok,this guy is an expert. whether or not Charlies movement was decorticate posturing or not is still an open question but sure not a hill to die on. the guy was murdered for his opinions. this doc put that point in a perfect way.
just asking,does this have some bearing on the events themselves? angle of attack,wound dynamics? re Iryna the attacker,method and effect are obvious. with Charlie seems several issues are in doubt. not the outcome in either.
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Then I suggest you stop bitching about it on a gun forum and take it up with the courts.
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Can’t compete with
Suffering from suffrage.
True. Except in many places, rental laws stipulate that landlords must rent to the first qualified applicant and all screening criteria must be provided in writing prior to accepting applications. But what the law says and what's enforced are typically two different things.
I have shot a lot of animals. I saw nothing extraordinary in the video of Charlie getting hit.
As I have said before, it appears to me that the bullet stuck a relatively thin fleshy area of the body severing the carotid artery or jugular. I don’t believe there was enough hydraulic pressure or resistance to create more than a pass-through pencil wound. No bone either.
My immediate opinion was that he was dead and never knew what hit him. The stories of his being “stabilized” baffled me because to me he was dead,
Below are some terminal ballistic observations, after a couple of my kills.
The premise is BULLSHIT.
There were no law of the land that designated us as “illegals”.
We were interlopers and the conquerors.
As were many of the Native warring tribes…..
We won.
I was the first one to say the term decorticate posturing here when people were going full retard early in the thread claiming he was reaching for his neck, which he obviously wasn’t.
I didn’t have an opinion on the Jews before and still don’t care, but I’m sure as fuck tired of hearing about them now.
But here you are. The blistering rash, that keeps on giving.
Exactly. From what I saw, blood loss alone would have him dead in seconds and trauma to the spine/brain stem added to that.
But I said it first, I just didn’t know the expert terms.
Not really blood volume but pressure.
Its like choking some one out, you are not targeting the breathing, but the blood flow/ cutting off the pressure.
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Welcome to the sniped by the expert club.
What a load of unadulterated hogwash this is.
Who are you to say the Jews are no longer God's chosen people.
You can make the claim they aren't really Jewish all you want, but from God's perspective He knows precisely who are the inheritors of the promises He made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their descendants.
Since God's promises to Israel are especially focused on the land of Isreal why would God call anyone but the Isrealites back to the land He promised them in the beginning?
The End Times largely revolve around the people of Israel being in the land of Israel.
God needs no genealogical records to know the people He has chosen.
So, sorry to bust your bubble bub, but God knows who every one of His chosen people are despite what you may choose to believe.
"The courts" that's funny. There's a justice on the SCOTUS that can't define a woman.
Executive branch= corrupt
Legislative Branch= corrupt
Judicial Branch= corrupt
Alphabet Branch= corrupt
Pravda/media Branch= corrupt
So Jesus didn't die on the cross for the sins of all mankind? Wasn't that part of the covenant with Abraham?
Thats not true, but who cares.
DNA and/or genealogical records are only important to humans, God knows precisely who every one of His chosen people are.
They think Jews have to be born Jews to be part of Gods covenants with Abraham and the Jewish people. They don’t understand that in Judaism they do not distinguish between born Jews and converts. Once converted they are considered full partakers in all covenants and it is against Jewish law to call them out as converts. They don’t understand there were many Jewish converts in the line of Jesus. Ruth the Moabite ( King Davids Great Grandmother) being one of them. They don’t understand that Gods covenants were not dependent on them but on Gods promise. He stated his covenant was “ever lasting”, “eternal” and “For a thousand generations” many times throughout the Bible. Not once in history were the Jews ever able to return to the land he promised them without his blessing. So to state the Jews currently in Israel are there against Gods will is ridiculous. They don’t see the return of Jews from exile back to the land God promised them in 1948 and a fulfillment of prophesy written about in Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Isaiah, but most of all the do not believe the Bible is the 100% inspired work of the Holy Spirit. Hence the “dispensationalist” comments.
2 Timothy 3:16
“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness”
Regarding converts
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Kneel plebeian and prepare thy self for the royal teabagging, for I went to school and know words!
So why are we sending them billions of dollars and fighting other countries for them?
Then the people that have rejected Jesus as the Messiah are not part of the covenant.
Nobody who rejects Jesus will see eternal life in Heaven, but until that time comes, Gods covenant with Israel stands.
That’s why he says that His covenant for them is forever. Not dependent on them, but on His promise. Israel has turned there backs on God from the time they left Egypt, but He has always returned them to the land he promised them. Just like he did in 1948.
You should watch “The Daniel Project” on Netflix. Pretty interesting regarding OT Prophesy that has been fulfilled regarding Israel.
Heres an interesting read
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Yes, as HogsLife explains above they are still a part of the covenant.
I reckon this is one of the ways the U.S. chooses to bless Israel.
See Genesis 12:3 for details.
Your child does something wrong. Your punishment is that they can't have ice cream. Your neighbors are passing them ice cream through the window.
Now think on this really hard. Our government is taking money from the citizens and giving it to the Israeli government so we can be blessed by God because of his covenant with Abraham?
Now go to the New Testament, John 15:16, John 15:19, Ephesians 1:3-4, 2 Thessalonians 2:13, 1 Peter 2:9, and Revaluation 17:14. The Messiah told us who were now the chosen people.They think Jews have to be born Jews to be part of Gods covenants with Abraham and the Jewish people. They don’t understand that in Judaism they do not distinguish between born Jews and converts. Once converted they are considered full partakers in all covenants and it is against Jewish law to call them out as converts. They don’t understand there were many Jewish converts in the line of Jesus. Ruth the Moabite ( King Davids Great Grandmother) being one of them. They don’t understand that Gods covenants were not dependent on them but on Gods promise. He stated his covenant was “ever lasting”, “eternal” and “For a thousand generations” many times throughout the Bible. Not once in history were the Jews ever able to return to the land he promised them without his blessing. So to state the Jews currently in Israel are there against Gods will is ridiculous. They don’t see the return of Jews from exile back to the land God promised them in 1948 and a fulfillment of prophesy written about in Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Isaiah, but most of all the do not believe the Bible is the 100% inspired work of the Holy Spirit. Hence the “dispensationalist” comments.
2 Timothy 3:16
“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness”
Regarding converts
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Yes through Israel all nations would be blessed. This was through the Messiah that would come from the line of Abraham. Jesus. So through Jesus, we are all partakers of the everlasting covenant, however, that does not nullify His covenant with Israel. That time hasn’t come yet though and should be more than apparent as Israel plays a huge role in the end time prophesy. Look at Ezekiel 38-39 regarding the Magog war when a coalition of forces from the north and Persia invade Israel and God sends confusion on them and Israel drives them out. Look at Daniel when he warns Israel of when the Abomination of Desolation ends sacrifices and seats himself in the temple in the place of God, he tells them to run for the hills not even turning back to grab a cloak. Look at the 2 Prophets and the 144,000 (12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel). Who else would be speaking of? Jewish converts are just as much partakers of the covenants as natural born Jews. In the end, they will suffer the same judgement as everyone who doesn’t accept Christ as Savior, but that time hasn’t come yet.
Israel still has apart to play and as God has that stated over and over throughout the Bible. Israel’s time will run out, just like ours will.
****Keep in mind. Im not using this as an excuse and blind support of genocide / or any other atrocity. This is just a response to the “Jews now aren’t the Jews of the Bible” argument.
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I don’t buy into the BS about a bullet cannot move a body. Hollywood BS about someone being shot by a shotgun or whatever and then blasting through a wall is that BS.
Now I have shot too many ground hogs and squirrels to know yep, a bullet can move a body.
Depends on the bullet and energy and the size of the body.
Don’t buy into this Myth Busters BS until you can explain how shooting a squirrel or a prairie dog can send them flying through the air.
Having said that, I have killed 50+ deer and none of them went flying into the air. Too say that a bullet cannot move a body is not a absolute.
I’ve shot a bunch of whitetail deer, mule deer and antelope and quite honestly I could not tell if they moved.
Also, with the above mentioned game, I have had multiple times that there was no exit wound. That’s from 90 grain Sierra game kings at less than 200 yards with a mv of 3600 fsp. Similar results with Berger bullets. 130 yards with 6.5 129 Noslers at 3400 fps. Unless someone on here has experience shooting a person in the neck at 130-200 yards, this is all speculation.
Now I have shot too many ground hogs and squirrels to know yep, a bullet can move a body.
Depends on the bullet and energy and the size of the body.
Don’t buy into this Myth Busters BS until you can explain how shooting a squirrel or a prairie dog can send them flying through the air.
Having said that, I have killed 50+ deer and none of them went flying into the air. Too say that a bullet cannot move a body is not a absolute.
I’ve shot a bunch of whitetail deer, mule deer and antelope and quite honestly I could not tell if they moved.
Also, with the above mentioned game, I have had multiple times that there was no exit wound. That’s from 90 grain Sierra game kings at less than 200 yards with a mv of 3600 fsp. Similar results with Berger bullets. 130 yards with 6.5 129 Noslers at 3400 fps. Unless someone on here has experience shooting a person in the neck at 130-200 yards, this is all speculation.
This is something you have to come to by being open to the Word and stopping the belief system you probably grew up under. Reading and searching it yourself. I realize throwing stuff at you isn’t going to win the day and that’s ok. You’re obviously someone who loves the Lord and that is the main thing.
Search it out. Study it.
Seriously, no hate or condemnation here. I grew up in dispensational church and it was quite an awakening when I first heard that God made the Chosen the “new Israel”.
This isn’t a hateful discussion. Never saw it that way. Theology discussions be that way some times. You believe in Replacement Theology aka Supersessionism, and I don’t. John MacArthur and RC Sproul have some great info on that you should check out.
The Church, i.e. Christians, are His children.
Israel/the Jews are God's chosen people.
Whether a person chooses to believe this or not doesn't diminish the fact.
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