Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

Ok, curious then, in Revalation. When speaking of Israel, Jerusalem, Damascus, the 2 Prophets, the 144,000 (12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel, who is he speaking about?

When you go to the Quran and the Suni for Islam, and the Mahdi aka the 12th Imam (their Savior, our anti-Christ) makes a 7 year peace agreement with the Jews / Israel. and then breaks it, invades Israel, sit in the temple in the place of God. and then slaughters the Jews and all who won’t covert to Islam, who are they speaking of?

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Start a dispensational theology thread.

Hey dude. Im not the one making claims that Jews aren’t Jews, Israel isn’t the Israel of the Bible, Christians have it all wrong. I’m Just offering a rebuttal. It’s called a conversation. I know it doesn’t line up with e current Jew hate narrative. We can drop it, but that’s a 2 way street.👊🏻
See above. This thread is not the place. Someone may get their feels hurt and this thread would get deleted.
If you really want to discuss it. Start a thread or a multiple people PM (preferably)
 
The only source for the “no exit wound” seems to be Candace Owens and she’s saying that somebody else told her and offered to show her a video but never did. Which smells like a lot of the other youtuber bullshit.

Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of the conspiracy bullshit is from agent provacateurs.
Don't get me wrong, where he was hit even a .22 would leave an exit wound.

We're being fed a barrel of horse shit. As usual.
 
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See above. This thread is not the place. Someone may get their feels hurt and this thread would get deleted.
If you really want to discuss it. Start a thread or a multiple people PM (preferably)
You suffer from reading comprehension problems? I responded to your comment. This is the Pit bub, since when are we worried about someone’s feelers getting hurt and threads getting deleted? And who’s feelings are your worried about? It’s definitely aint Jews or Israelis.…Half this freakin thread is about Jews. I just posted something a few of you didn’t like.. you guys will get over it.

Now we can both agree that we can get back to Charlie Kirk and radical leftist that deleted him.

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Agreed. This ain’t some sofisticated Mossad / Israel / CIA operation.

Tranny loving radical leftist probs got involved with a radical leftist group and got pumped up into taking out Charlie with his grandpas hunting rifle. Definitely more people involved but I’d guess it’s nothing more than an Antifa type.
ultimately likely what it was. there are enough reasonable questions and some off the wall. the issue is IMHO that we voted for open,truthful transparent detail on significant events. we haven't gotten it since early 20th cent. as tax paying,voting citizens,i believe we are owed by the gov answers to any question,no matter how outlandish. because a pair of "conservatives" are running the FBI that doesn't change. the bunch that were investigating concerned GS mothers is still employed. do you think their world view has changed? their willingness to play NKVD changed? doubt anything has changed. so,no,any wild assed conspiracy theory has long legs until they can show their honesty. JFK,RFK,MLK,9/11,OKC,Tonkin,Pearl Harbor,Iraq +++ all await clarification. not holding my breath.
 
His decorticate movement was from upper motor neuron injury of midbrain, not spine. Was that cavitation from bullet energy or angle of trajectory?

don't doubt it. cutting into or transecting a major artery-carotid,subclavian,axillary,bracheal etc will beat spinal injury as COD. might not even be obvious in field but until autopsy. ok,this guy is an expert. whether or not Charlies movement was decorticate posturing or not is still an open question but sure not a hill to die on. the guy was murdered for his opinions. this doc put that point in a perfect way.
just asking,does this have some bearing on the events themselves? angle of attack,wound dynamics? re Iryna the attacker,method and effect are obvious. with Charlie seems several issues are in doubt. not the outcome in either.
 
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You do t believe in private business then.

You should be able to serve or not or rent to or not whoever you want to.

it’s gotten bad enough you can’t “discriminate based on income source “ in some states. Aka you have to rent to section 8



Your thinking is what takes absolute rights and leads to assault weapon bans. And blatant 4th violations like twig pigs “let me see your papers”, truck inspection extortion stations , and boating “safety inspections”


The constitution is clear. The 1st 2nd 4th etc don’t have asterisks after them

Then I suggest you stop bitching about it on a gun forum and take it up with the courts.
 
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You can, if youre wise about it.

You cant say "Im not going to rent to you because your 'Black,trans,,queer,poor, etc.' You can say "I'm not going to rent to you because I dont like the way you part your hair." Or, "You know, I just decided to not rent it for a couple weeks while I make repairs. Get back to me in a month."

True. Except in many places, rental laws stipulate that landlords must rent to the first qualified applicant and all screening criteria must be provided in writing prior to accepting applications. But what the law says and what's enforced are typically two different things.
 
Thank you for that clarification. I don’t hunt, so I’ve never witnessed this.
Do a fair amount of target shooting with repurposed targets such as small HPA tanks, fire extinguishers, propane tanks etc.
I’ve yet to witness a round not pass thru any of these objects at distances from 100 and beyond with various calibers, and the object impacted at times doesn’t move at all, even with an edge hit.

Appreciate you entertaining my thoughts.

I have shot a lot of animals. I saw nothing extraordinary in the video of Charlie getting hit.

As I have said before, it appears to me that the bullet stuck a relatively thin fleshy area of the body severing the carotid artery or jugular. I don’t believe there was enough hydraulic pressure or resistance to create more than a pass-through pencil wound. No bone either.

My immediate opinion was that he was dead and never knew what hit him. The stories of his being “stabilized” baffled me because to me he was dead,

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His decorticate movement was from upper motor neuron injury of midbrain, not spine. Was that cavitation from bullet energy or angle of trajectory?

I was the first one to say the term decorticate posturing here when people were going full retard early in the thread claiming he was reaching for his neck, which he obviously wasn’t.
 
True. Except in many places, rental laws stipulate that landlords must rent to the first qualified applicant and all screening criteria must be provided in writing prior to accepting applications. But what the law says and what's enforced are typically two different things.
Qualifed means I've got to like how you part your hair. I know, I know its a joke :ROFLMAO:
 
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My immediate opinion was that he was dead and never knew what hit him. The stories of his being “stabilized” baffled me because to me he was dead,
Exactly. From what I saw, blood loss alone would have him dead in seconds and trauma to the spine/brain stem added to that.
 
Exactly. From what I saw, blood loss alone would have him dead in seconds and trauma to the spine/brain stem added to that.
Not really blood volume but pressure.

Its like choking some one out, you are not targeting the breathing, but the blood flow/ cutting off the pressure.
 
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Because they are no longer God’s chosen people. They aren’t even Jewish.
What a load of unadulterated hogwash this is.
Who are you to say the Jews are no longer God's chosen people.
You can make the claim they aren't really Jewish all you want, but from God's perspective He knows precisely who are the inheritors of the promises He made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their descendants.
Since God's promises to Israel are especially focused on the land of Isreal why would God call anyone but the Isrealites back to the land He promised them in the beginning?
The End Times largely revolve around the people of Israel being in the land of Israel.
God needs no genealogical records to know the people He has chosen.
So, sorry to bust your bubble bub, but God knows who every one of His chosen people are despite what you may choose to believe.
 
Then I suggest you stop bitching about it on a gun forum and take it up with the courts.
"The courts" that's funny. There's a justice on the SCOTUS that can't define a woman.

Executive branch= corrupt
Legislative Branch= corrupt
Judicial Branch= corrupt
Alphabet Branch= corrupt
Pravda/media Branch= corrupt
 
What a load of unadulterated hogwash this is.
Who are you to say the Jews are no longer God's chosen people.
You can make the claim they aren't really Jewish all you want, but from God's perspective He knows precisely who are the inheritors of the promises He made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their descendants.
Since God's promises to Israel are especially focused on the land of Isreal why would God call anyone but the Isrealites back to the land He promised them in the beginning?
The End Times largely revolve around the people of Israel being in the land of Israel.
God needs no genealogical records to know the people He has chosen.
So, sorry to bust your bubble bub, but God knows who every one of His chosen people are despite what you may choose to believe.
So Jesus didn't die on the cross for the sins of all mankind? Wasn't that part of the covenant with Abraham?
 
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Jews of today in Israel have ZERO Hebrew DNA.

Israel is in exile, non-zionist Jews even agree. They were scattered in the first century. The state of Israel is a literal rebellion against God’s judgment.

Covenants are bi-directional.

Posting feet of cut and paste Lahaye and Jenkins level talking points is something for a thread of its own.
Thats not true, but who cares.
DNA and/or genealogical records are only important to humans, God knows precisely who every one of His chosen people are.
 
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What a load of unadulterated hogwash this is.
Who are you to say the Jews are no longer God's chosen people.
You can make the claim they aren't really Jewish all you want, but from God's perspective He knows precisely who are the inheritors of the promises He made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their descendants.
Since God's promises to Israel are especially focused on the land of Isreal why would God call anyone but the Isrealites back to the land He promised them in the beginning?
The End Times largely revolve around the people of Israel being in the land of Israel.
God needs no genealogical records to know the people He has chosen.
So, sorry to bust your bubble bub, but God knows who every one of His chosen people are despite what you may choose to believe.

They think Jews have to be born Jews to be part of Gods covenants with Abraham and the Jewish people. They don’t understand that in Judaism they do not distinguish between born Jews and converts. Once converted they are considered full partakers in all covenants and it is against Jewish law to call them out as converts. They don’t understand there were many Jewish converts in the line of Jesus. Ruth the Moabite ( King Davids Great Grandmother) being one of them. They don’t understand that Gods covenants were not dependent on them but on Gods promise. He stated his covenant was “ever lasting”, “eternal” and “For a thousand generations” many times throughout the Bible. Not once in history were the Jews ever able to return to the land he promised them without his blessing. So to state the Jews currently in Israel are there against Gods will is ridiculous. They don’t see the return of Jews from exile back to the land God promised them in 1948 and a fulfillment of prophesy written about in Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Isaiah, but most of all the do not believe the Bible is the 100% inspired work of the Holy Spirit. Hence the “dispensationalist” comments.

2 Timothy 3:16​

“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness”​


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Then the people that have rejected Jesus as the Messiah are not part of the covenant.

Nobody who rejects Jesus will see eternal life in Heaven, but until that time comes, Gods covenant with Israel stands.

That’s why he says that His covenant for them is forever. Not dependent on them, but on His promise. Israel has turned there backs on God from the time they left Egypt, but He has always returned them to the land he promised them. Just like he did in 1948.

You should watch “The Daniel Project” on Netflix. Pretty interesting regarding OT Prophesy that has been fulfilled regarding Israel.

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Nobody who rejects Jesus will see eternal life in Heaven, but until that time comes, Gods covenant with Israel will stand.

That’s why he says that His covenant for them is forever. Not dependent on them, but on His promise. Israel has turned there backs on God from the time they left Egypt, but He has always returned them to the land he promised them. Just like he did in 1948.

You should watch “The Daniel Project” on Netflix. Pretty interesting regarding OT Prophesy that has been fulfilled regarding Israel.

Heres an interesting read



Your child does something wrong. Your punishment is that they can't have ice cream. Your neighbors are passing them ice cream through the window.

Now think on this really hard. Our government is taking money from the citizens and giving it to the Israeli government so we can be blessed by God because of his covenant with Abraham?
 
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They think Jews have to be born Jews to be part of Gods covenants with Abraham and the Jewish people. They don’t understand that in Judaism they do not distinguish between born Jews and converts. Once converted they are considered full partakers in all covenants and it is against Jewish law to call them out as converts. They don’t understand there were many Jewish converts in the line of Jesus. Ruth the Moabite ( King Davids Great Grandmother) being one of them. They don’t understand that Gods covenants were not dependent on them but on Gods promise. He stated his covenant was “ever lasting”, “eternal” and “For a thousand generations” many times throughout the Bible. Not once in history were the Jews ever able to return to the land he promised them without his blessing. So to state the Jews currently in Israel are there against Gods will is ridiculous. They don’t see the return of Jews from exile back to the land God promised them in 1948 and a fulfillment of prophesy written about in Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Isaiah, but most of all the do not believe the Bible is the 100% inspired work of the Holy Spirit. Hence the “dispensationalist” comments.

2 Timothy 3:16​

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Now go to the New Testament, John 15:16, John 15:19, Ephesians 1:3-4, 2 Thessalonians 2:13, 1 Peter 2:9, and Revaluation 17:14. The Messiah told us who were now the chosen people.
 
Now go to the New Testament, John 15:16, John 15:19, Ephesians 1:3-4, 2 Thessalonians 2:13, 1 Peter 2:9, and Revaluation 17:14. The Messiah told us who were now the chosen people.

Yes through Israel all nations would be blessed. This was through the Messiah that would come from the line of Abraham. Jesus. So through Jesus, we are all partakers of the everlasting covenant, however, that does not nullify His covenant with Israel. That time hasn’t come yet though and should be more than apparent as Israel plays a huge role in the end time prophesy. Look at Ezekiel 38-39 regarding the Magog war when a coalition of forces from the north and Persia invade Israel and God sends confusion on them and Israel drives them out. Look at Daniel when he warns Israel of when the Abomination of Desolation ends sacrifices and seats himself in the temple in the place of God, he tells them to run for the hills not even turning back to grab a cloak. Look at the 2 Prophets and the 144,000 (12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel). Who else would be speaking of? Jewish converts are just as much partakers of the covenants as natural born Jews. In the end, they will suffer the same judgement as everyone who doesn’t accept Christ as Savior, but that time hasn’t come yet.

Israel still has apart to play and as God has that stated over and over throughout the Bible. Israel’s time will run out, just like ours will.

****Keep in mind. Im not using this as an excuse and blind support of genocide / or any other atrocity. This is just a response to the “Jews now aren’t the Jews of the Bible” argument.
 
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