Photos 100% Titanium XM 6.8

RollingThunder51

RollingThunder51

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Here are the very first pics of the new 100% Titanium Raider XM in the newest (T.H.O.R.) prototype configuration. Developed to deliver precision and withstand high volume, full auto fire. The fully 360 degree welded baffles are set into the thickest, highest quality <span style="text-decoration: underline">American</span> made titanium tubing available, there is no ring, this is a thread-on precision can. At approx 14 oz it is the strongest, shortest, quietest can out there. More time and energy is being spent than any can in AWC's 30 year history, the finish alone is a three day process to take the heat. Not thread assembled, no tacks, no stainless, no aluminum, no threadloc of any color. The 100% titanium Raiders are available to civs, the T.H.O.R. (Thermal High Order Radiant) with the new envelope/baffle gas pathing is not. {{ NOTE: because this is a prototype of a new design}} Hammer time.
 
#4
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

Skinney, the pricing should all go through them as I can only tell you my experience. Know that the Titanium/SS units are still available, the 100% titanium units are in both standard and 6.8 XM, some go the .223 in XM. These cans aren't cheap. I figure the bump to 100% titanium XM in 6.8 cost about 35% more, putting the FA can in the $1,400 range.
 
#6
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

It goes something like this. THOR attends to the requirement to effectively provide suppression (heat dissipation/pathing) and flash containment/mitigation for extreme high volume belt fed fire.
 
#7
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

Silencer companies who restrict certain models to LEOs are ultra lame. NFA owners are basically the most thoroughly-vetted of all firearm owners, there is absolutely no valid reason to tell a person "you can have a silencer, but we don't think you should have one that can be safely used on your legally-owned machine gun."
 
#8
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

agreed, that's a retarded policy. It's already an NFA item and so are full auto items, so it's not like there's no provision for control and tracking there.

If I want titanium, i'll buy a TBAC.
 
#10
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

Sounds serious! In 30 years, AWC <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">has never</span></span> had a single suppressor model that hasn't been sold to the qualified civilian.

Let's reread together, eh?

"Here are the very first pics of the new 100% Titanium Raider XM in the newest (T.H.O.R.) prototype configuration." Key word?

"The 100% titanium Raiders are available to civs, the T.H.O.R. (Thermal High Order Radiant) with the new envelope/baffle gas pathing is not." Right now the full 100% titanium units are available, same unit as sold to Services. The same fielded .50, the same fielded .338, the same fielded .30, the same fielded .223. The THOR is not available and won't become available until it is finished and it goes through the same vetting that all products do to get certified for FA fire. As I have said before, AWC has taken more suppressors to "fire to failure" testing than many suppressor companies have made in total.

Hope that helps.





 
#12
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

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+1+...er 2?

Yea......hell yea!! How dare they test their newest products until they are ready to be sold. Now we find that they <span style="font-weight: bold">don't have a policy</span> that will keep products out of the hands of the most thoroughly-vetted of all firearm owners?? Oh yea...these guys are looking to develop a configuration that will take the full 200 box in under <20 seconds and they aren't ready to just give it up? Bring it on Mrs. Muthas!! Here comes Mr. Right Hand Cool Breeze...oh yea....hell yea. What? Oh.....where? Really...it says that?




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#14
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

...but how does it perform?
a can is only worth its price tag and high tech savvy description if it functions well for its class.
Whoever is doing their company policy needs to wisen up...you piss off a community and they'll restrict their "civy" funds for the competition
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#15
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

Performs great, the Raider and XM line always did. The news is 14oz of best grade titanium that is dimensionally able to support the new baffles at HT. No policy, right? No policy other than best engineering, best materials, best assembly, strictest testing possible. As stated "In 30 years, AWC has never had a single suppressor model that hasn't been sold to the qualified civilian."
At some point, I am sure the .30 can will be tested here.
 
#16
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

wow dude, suck up a little harder and maybe you'll get somewhere. You're talking out both sides of your face saying "the T.H.O.R. with the new envelope/baffle gas pathing is not (available to civ)" and yet you say that they don't keep any silencers off the civy market. You're the one that quoted it, perhaps YOU should ask them what that means if you got it off their site. Perhaps you should clarify that it's not done yet so people don't think AWC is stonewalling them.

They either will or won't release models with THOR, it's simple. If they don't, then they clearly have ideas that the tech should not be for civy, and that is reason enough not to do business. We shall see once it is done testing, eh? I understand not releasing that can until you are sure of it's merit, but the point is that the potential customers don't want to see it reserved for a specific group just because it can work with FA fire. This has happened with other companies and the point is that people are tired of seeing the government win exclusivity over the people who are qualified to own, especially since they are buying theirs with our tax dollars. KAC is a great example of this, IIRC they don't sell their can to the public. Let's hope the THOR does not suffer the same fate, capiche?
 
#18
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bcw1284</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> This has happened with other companies and the point is that people are tired of seeing the government win exclusivity over the people who are qualified to own, especially since they are buying theirs with our tax dollars. KAC is a great example of this, IIRC they don't sell their can to the public. Let's hope the THOR does not suffer the same fate, capiche? </div></div>
does aac not do this as well with their SCAR-H???
 
#20
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

Again, no restriction other than the developmental cycle. Think your going to buy THOR, you are not, nobody is for a good number of months. Enjoy the fact that you are aware that high volume, basic baffle disruption, single gas pathing, l-o-n-g cans is coming to an end. Its great news and it should be a great step forward.
 
#21
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

Best engineering? Best materials? Quietest? Best assembly? Taken more suppressors to failure then other suppressor companies have made suppressors?

Has any independent testing been done? What have you compared it to?
 
#22
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

30 years of builds, 30 years of testing, 30 years of articles, 30 years.....the two volume masterwork on suppression has them on both covers ( ISBN-13: 9780873649094, ISBN-13: 9781581603231.) A great place to begin, a lot of excellent work has been done by some great companies over the years. This is one of them. Don't know about them? Start here

http://www.awcsystech.com/about/letter-from-mac/

That will get from Mickey Finn, Don Walsh Dr. Dater, Reed Knight, etc. It is a solid start. I've heard more cans over my life than most so give it a break. I posted here so some can see some remarkable titanium machining, there was more than 3ozs removed from the envelope alone on the proto, that is almost as much as some other's titanium tubes.

I am confident it will be tested here at some point.


 
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Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 100% titanium Raiders are available to civs, <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic">the T.H.O.R. (Thermal High Order Radiant) with the new envelope/baffle gas pathing is not.</span></span> </div></div>

So if I am reading it right they are only willing to sell the lesser product to Civies? Seems like a shit tactic.
 
#24
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

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No, you are reading it wrong. There are companies that do that, they are not one of them. I made that clear way up above. The only thing that stands in the way is a whole boatload of testing, just what anyone would want for a heavy volume FA can.
 
#25
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

Very nice piece of equipment there Rolling Thunder. I can't remember the weight on my old work one but I bet this titanium one is half the weight and has much better noise reduction.
 
#26
Re: 100% Titanium XM 6.8

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wouldn't even know where to begin with this one....the cans ALREADY work with FA fire.

capiche?</div></div>

Are you really that fucking dense? It says right in your quote that they are still in testing for FA fire. You and/or AWC said that, NOT me. Which leads one to believe that the shit isn't hiding from civys, it's just not out yet. <span style="font-weight: bold">My point was that it's not written clearly so people can understand that. </span> The ENTIRE fucking point was that it "sounds" like they "won't" sell them to civy but really the case is that they are not "finished" with it. The shit you wrote/quoted is misleading and confusing, and I was making an attempt to clarify that as well distinguish between this scenario and situations where things actually are restricted (like KAC). I'm sorry if that was too hard a trail for you to track, Squanto.

And just for the sake of disclosure, I didn't say the titaniums can't be used FA... and I honestly don't give a hoot. Any can "could" be used on an FA weapon, that doesn't mean it should be. I was never suggesting the product was inferior.

Your quotes are the most convoluted bullshit i've read in a long time, and trying to get you to clarify anything is like beating my head on a brick wall. So i'm gonna go take some Excedrin and you can have a nice time here with your ridiculous circle-talking. If you expect people to give a shit what you have to say, don't come here and shill. That just rubs people the wrong way when you're not a dealer or the mfg... and if you are affiliated with one, then make that clear up front. Otherwise you just look like a shill who's fishing for attention.

I'm out, enjoy.
 
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