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    #1
    I would have to buy a couple of I didn't live in a commie registration state

    https://www.recoilgunworks.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=RG-PTI-G21&utm_source=PD+G27+and+G21+Various&utm_campaign=Flash+Sale+-+G21+&+G27+Various&utm_medium=email
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    And $349 stripped kits for 80%
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    I'm liking it! I carried a 21 SF for several years as a Deputy and kept an extra. I did something close to that with a heat gun on the back strap. I also put a Wilson barrel in both mine to shoot H&G 68's I loaded for the dept. Both mine were shooters and never had any Mals or problems after many thousands. When Glock first came out with the 21 My dept was carrying 40's. They sent me one to torture and I asked for 5 mags. They sent three so I had two guys loading for me on my torture test. I had a bucket of water and a thousand rounds. I shot the first 300 as fast as they could load and then switched off with the other two and we had to dunk it every 300 or so and the steam rolled. It never missed a lick! I waited till the SF's came out and because our dept had women they refused to go 45 complaining the grip was too big. I did run a finish reamer in both my Wilson barrels to check for proper headspace after I fit them and cut them the depth to fit my carry loads just enough to barely hang a toothpick point and stopped. Perfect and would shoot one big hole at 15 yards off the bags and less than 2 at 25. I put good sights on mine too, if I remember correctly I used Glock tritium fronts and turned the rear sights around and centered them with red 271 loctite. I just want to see the ball in the front and no stupid upside down box on the rear.
     
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    I run Glock factory NS on mine now.

    Also have a .460 Rowland conversion..... shooting 200 gr XTP at 1500 fps. Requires a comp and a 24 lb recoil spring.
    Sure shoots standard 45 loads soft set up like that and functions fine. Only shot about 50 and no issues.
     
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    #17
    fdkay said:
    A stupid statement that is also impossible to prove.
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    not really.......at the risk of turning this into a "glock vs....." thread.

    glocks are one of the most proven and reliable pistols on the market.....theres really no denying that........theres a reason many people consider them a "standard" to compare other pistols to.
     
    #18
    fdkay said:
    A stupid statement that is also impossible to prove.
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    Glocks are the #1 handgun in the world based on production numbers and sales.

    It must be because they are unreliable?

    Maser said:
    300 bucks is still way too overpriced for a Tupperware gun.
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    This, actually, is the most stupidest post on the 'Hide in the last 24 hours.
     
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    Alphatreedog said:
    I fixed my Glock by buying a Springfield . ???
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    I fixed my Springfield by buying a Glock. :ROFLMAO:

    I carried an XDM everyday for two years. When I found out I could shed over half a pound going from a full-size XDM to a G19, I jump at the chance! The XDM served me well for two 4-day classes and well over 5k rounds, but the G19 has been going strong for eight years, and I'm much happier not having that extra 10oz on my belt all day. Plus, I can bench strip the thing with one tool. But I do miss the XDM sometimes, they're great pistols!
     
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    david walter said:
    Glocks are the #1 handgun in the world based on production numbers and sales.

    It must be because they are unreliable?



    This, actually, is the most stupidest post on the 'Hide in the last 24 hours.
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    They are the number one in production and sales because they are cheap.
    The number one factor in government contracts for MOST acquisitions is cost per unit.
    Yes, they are reliable, yes, they are accurate. Not saying they aren't.
    They are no more reliable or accurate than any other quality semi-auto.

    That is the same thing as saying "The AK47 is the best assault rifle ever made" solely based on the numbers.
    Hate to rain on your parade, the AK47 isn't the greatest either.
     
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    If y'all want to argue hour upon hour about Glocks being good or bad, there is a dedicated Glock thread in the Sidearms forum where you can do it :ROFLMAO:

    https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/glocks-work-period-end-of-story.6918875/

    Instead of gun snobbery, I found my time and effort to be far better spent in actually putting rounds downrange. I have owned Glocks, M&P's, and Hi-Points (JHP 45) in terms of plastic-framed autoloaders, and curiously enough, I have found all of them to be highly battle-worthy.

    Thanks again to OP for bringing to our attention useful deals.
     
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    I've been on the fence about a Glock....Hate the grip angle because I am not used to it and I have tried to get used to it. The only way to do so is to just buy one. However, the last thing I need is another handgun. I don't shoot what I have today very often. The issue without having a gun comes back to trying to have a good inventory from a commonality perspective. Glocks are super popular amongst the good and bad guys so magazines and spare parts will always be easy to get even if things go south. Therefore, I need one in inventory.

    I started looking into Glocks and, of course, there are a million variants. What do people like and which ones should I say away from?
     
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    Nik H said:
    I've been on the fence about a Glock....Hate the grip angle because I am not used to it and I have tried to get used to it. The only way to do so is to just buy one. However, the last thing I need is another handgun. I don't shoot what I have today very often. The issue without having a gun comes back to trying to have a good inventory from a commonality perspective. Glocks are super popular amongst the good and bad guys so magazines and spare parts will always be easy to get even if things go south. Therefore, I need one in inventory.

    I started looking into Glocks and, of course, there are a million variants. What do people like and which ones should I say away from?
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    I’ve had the 19, 21,22,43. All reliable for me. I would try and stick with a 9mm just for ammo prices, unless you need more power (10mm). I shot 2000 rounds of steel case through my 21 without a hiccup. As long as you put good glock mags in them and good ammo it’s gonna go bang. I would avoid the 42 .380 . The 43 (9mm) is just a little bigger in frame size and you get more power., easy to handle and find holsters for. I always recommend the 19 or smith and Wesson m&p compact. They are both mid size guns easy to carry easy to find holster, mags , sights for, great mag capacity.
     
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    fdkay said:
    They are the number one in production and sales because they are cheap.
    The number one factor in government contracts for MOST acquisitions is cost per unit.
    Yes, they are reliable, yes, they are accurate. Not saying they aren't.
    They are no more reliable or accurate than any other quality semi-auto.

    That is the same thing as saying "The AK47 is the best assault rifle ever made" solely based on the numbers.
    Hate to rain on your parade, the AK47 isn't the greatest either.
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    Ok show me the ar15 v ak47 analogy for Glock v ? It's Glock v a whole bunch of different crap. 1911s have too much bs going on to even be in this conversation .
     
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    fdkay said:
    They are the number one in production and sales because they are cheap.
    The number one factor in government contracts for MOST acquisitions is cost per unit.
    Yes, they are reliable, yes, they are accurate. Not saying they aren't.
    They are no more reliable or accurate than any other quality semi-auto.

    That is the same thing as saying "The AK47 is the best assault rifle ever made" solely based on the numbers.
    Hate to rain on your parade, the AK47 isn't the greatest either.
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    Hate to drop reality on your rant, but dollar for dollar, Glocks and AKs are a bargain, and dollars for reliability even more so.

    Are there guns that are more reliable and more accurate? Not more reliable, but yes more accurate, for more money.

    Prove me wrong. I'll get another coffee and wait for your thoughtful research.
     
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    deersniper said:
    Ok show me the ar15 v ak47 analogy for Glock v ? It's Glock v a whole bunch of different crap. 1911s have too much bs going on to even be in this conversation .
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    Who said anything about 1911's?
    CZ has been in business longer than Glock, makes guns just as reliable as Glock, they are more accurate than Glocks and the ergo's are better and they are available for around the same price.
    M&P's, USP's, Springfields, Caracals and a host of semi-auto's are as reliable and as accurate.
     
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    david walter said:
    Hate to drop reality on your rant, but dollar for dollar, Glocks and AKs are a bargain, and dollars for reliability even more so.

    Are there guns that are more reliable and more accurate? Not more reliable, but yes more accurate, for more money.

    Prove me wrong. I'll get another coffee and wait for your thoughtful research.
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    Oh, look, I managed to get your panties tied in a knot by mentioning both your favorite guns.
    Good on you. You like Glocks and AK's. That's fine, more power to you.
    They are good choices, but there are equal and superior guns available.
    I would never buy a Glock, but if someone gave me one, I'd take it, because I'm not stupid.
    I wouldn't buy an AK either, but again, if someone gave me one, I'd take it.
    I don't get so emotionally invested in inanimate objects.
    By the way, Glock didn't win the new Army contract, Sig did. Does that mean the Sig is better than the Glock?
    After all, extensive testing was done with thousands and thousands of rounds of ammunition expended.
    Guess which one one? The cheaper one.
    That is the way .gov works.
     
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    Nik H

    Unless you are a big guy, try the 19.

    Have them, prefer the 19 as do my buddies who have all bought Glocks.
    Same thought. Shared mags and parts is a good thing.

    You only get 2 more rounds with the 17. I cant appreciate an accuracy advantage. Move to a 34 and then we can talk about it.

    Im actually getting 1-2 more 19s to round out my party planning. ?
     
    #38
    Have carried a pistol every day since I was 21, here is what I have learned;
    Started out with a revolver and shot one at the Police Academy in 1980 because that was all that was allowed.
    Got home after loading two rounds at a time (was before speedloaders) and decided revolvers were too slow and not enough rounds.
    Bought a new Colt Gold Cup and Pachmyr magazines changed the recoil spring and Polished the feed ramp and barrel throat.

    I was the oddball, only Cop in the area with a 1911 and carried it every day along with an ankle gun, chiefs special. I also bought a 94 Winchester and carried it and a High Standard shotgun for 7 years.

    Changed depts. Still carried the same pistol and ankle gun. Put thousands down the 1911 loading on a single stage press and jumped for joy when the Lee carbide dies came out. Loaded Red dot and hand poured my own bullets and old lyman sizer luber.

    Bought an AR-15 Carbine and started carrying it. Ball was cheap, shot it all the time and had some feeding issues. Took it to a Military armor and he dremeled the two feed ramps and ran a reamer down it, ran good from then on.

    Changed depts. Had carried my 1911 for almost ten years at this point and they told me I would have to carry a Sig 220 issue gun. I liked this pistol and but had an issue with the barrel feed ramp hanging over a tad and would get a feed hang on lead bullets. I just fixed the overhang with a cratex wheel, ran like a sewing machine from then on. I ran 2000 or so through this gun and liked it OK, missed my Colt.

    Then the 92 F craze was in full swing. I bought one and ordered a case of ammo and after 900 rounds the trigger spring broke. Bye bye Pietro!
    During this time of several years I owned and shot 686's and various other 1911's in competition. PPC and Combat courses at the old Arkansas combat pistol league. PPC shoots everywhere I could find them on the old NRA 50 yard courses. Made NRA Distinguished PPC and Combat Master in non com before IDPA came along.

    Changed depts. Back to my Gold Cup and a Model 60 ankle gun always in a Bianchi and Texas shoe 1911 belt holster. Always carried 4 extra mags on my gun belt and always my AR and Got ATF registered 14 inch barrel for my new 870 house gun. Happy as a Lark for seven years and now comes a new Chief of Police and here comes the issue Glock 22's, YUCK!

    I seriously tried to kill the 40 pistol and beat it with 5000 rounds until the peen over on the slide bottoms stopped peening. I have to tell you I did not like the unsupported chamber in the 40's and came to much prefer the 21 Glock later on when I got closer to retirement.

    Last dept I went back to 1911 and carried a Wilson on duty and a Kimber light rail for my SRT gun. I went to Bushmaster M-4 and a 700 heavy barrel 308 cased for a PR.

    What I have learned; Lots of Fools carry guns, including Cops. There people who view the sidearm as just part of the uniform and never want to learn them, shoot them or think of winning gun battles.No matter how much you tell them, they never get it and need to be a barber or insurance salesman, maybe a Politician.

    I stayed away from them and would rather go by myself as have one of these Just for the paycheck idiots along.

    1911 has come a long way and the older guns had to be gone through and have a basic reliability tune first. I would recommend it today as well and consider 1911 a Masters gun and should be able to shoot High Expert or better to carry one because they are NOT for jumpy buck fever Monkeys.

    The Glock simply works. It can be carried by semi Monkeys that do not maintain their pistol and they know if they "Pull" the trigger it will go off.

    Not saying a Glock is just for Monkeys, just saying the dipshits should not have 1911 on a suspect with a 3-pound trigger that is about to shit his pants because he is scared. 1911 is best in the hands of a Confident well trained Warrior. In his hands, 1911 is the best gun to win with.

    In the hands of a trained person, reloading is done fluidly and without a bobble and just a second or two of a lull in the fight.

    The only thing Glock has is simplicity and capacity and weight reduction. I like Glocks and carry two 43's but my Duty Holster gun of choice on a Sam Browne is a 1911 and always will be. I am retired now and do not have a need for a 12 pound Belt so I carry CCW Glocks. 1911 is too heavy for me to carry concealed but the option of a lightweight Commander would be viable. Got to eat.
     
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    @fdkay ,

    I wouldn’t own an AK. I can’t run them.

    I own 6? Glocks.

    Don’t have panties, so they’re not in a wad. Perhaps you can show me yours and I’ll decide if I need some?

    The conversation was about $300 pistols.

    So, show me what you got in the $300 range to compete with a Glock. Or AK.
     
    #41
    I like AK's, even a shit one is higher than an AR nowadays. There are 1911's just over 300 bucks that have decent quality with MIM parts that work. MIM parts are frowned on but are OK. In 1911 I would want a machined slide release. Shit loads of 556 brass everywhere to load, 762x39 is mostly steel. I just have one question for PSA and the Polish AK makers; Why is it that you cannot get the front sight vertical on a plane with the bore and rear sight? Seems every one of them has the front pushed over for this F up.. I know, Off topic but the one day sale is over? Is there an AK aside from an Arsenal that is less than a Ruger or S&W or even a PSA AR?
     
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    david walter said:
    @fdkay ,

    I wouldn’t own an AK. I can’t run them.

    I own 6? Glocks.

    Don’t have panties, so they’re not in a wad. Perhaps you can show me yours and I’ll decide if I need some?

    The conversation was about $300 pistols.

    So, show me what you got in the $300 range to compete with a Glock. Or AK.
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    https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/175075
    https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...3/used_s&w_m&p9_9mm_w3_17rd_mags_ns_excellent

    Show me new AK's for 300 bucks.
    They cost the same as an entry level AR. The AR is superior.
     
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    It’s been awhile but I believe it was the history channel? Had a show that was a countdown of the greatest battle rifle/ number one battle rifle of all time, something like that. They would feature the rifle go over the pro and cons etc. a countdown to #1. what was #1? AK 47. I shit you not.
     
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    fdkay said:
    https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/175075
    https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog...3/used_s&w_m&p9_9mm_w3_17rd_mags_ns_excellent

    Show me new AK's for 300 bucks.
    They cost the same as an entry level AR. The AR is superior.
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    If you think a first generation S&W is comparable to ANY Glock, your infirmity is confirmed.

    Also, I wasn't arguing that the AK is more accurate than the AR-15. However, the AK is still reliable and rocking on worldwide on MOD 0, while the AR is on mod bazillion to achieve the same reliability.

    Did you not see where I said I don't own an AK? Did you post the $300 AR you're comparing it to?

    Are you not good at reading comprehension?
     
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    Seed tick said:
    It’s been awhile but I believe it was the history channel? Had a show that was a countdown of the greatest battle rifle/ number one battle rifle of all time, something like that. They would feature the rifle go over the pro and cons etc. a countdown to #1. what was #1? AK 47. I shit you not.
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    That's the same program that used Rooney and his "M40" in 6.5x47.
     
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    david walter said:
    If you think a first generation S&W is comparable to ANY Glock, your infirmity is confirmed.

    Also, I wasn't arguing that the AK is more accurate than the AR-15. However, the AK is still reliable and rocking on worldwide on MOD 0, while the AR is on mod bazillion to achieve the same reliability.

    Did you not see where I said I don't own an AK? Did you post the $300 AR you're comparing it to?

    Are you not good at reading comprehension?
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    You are attempting obfuscation.
    YOU are the one that said 300 dollar AK's are the standard, not me.
    I never assigned the dollar value, you did, so where are these new, in the box AK's for 300?
    Yes, I have experience with the M&P, it is a fine pistol. Is it better? No. Is the Glock better than it? again, no.
    I prefer it to the Glock because of the grip angle, but I don't own one, because I prefer the CZ.
    The AR15 is quite reliable and always was, when built the way it was supposed to be built with the ammunition it was designed to operate with.
    Funny how similar the glock fanboys are to the 1911 fanboys.
    If you want to spend 300 bucks on a used gun with shitty ergonomics, rock on. We live in a wonderful world where everyone has a choice.
    Please spare me the whole "Glocks are the best ever" bullshit.
    They are a very good, serviceable, reasonably priced plastic gun with plastic sites. They are cheap enough to throw away when you want to upgrade.
     
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    The dipsticks 1911 did not lock back on the last round after shooting the Glock.
     

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