Active Shooter at Fort Stewart

^ I've been retired 7 years, and we (multiple senior SNCOs) carried on base regularly when I was in.

We just didn't tell anyone about it. ;)

Would be nice to have it legal though.
Wait till you got caught by an inspection at the gate. More than a few people had their careers ruined thanks to Clinton disarming Soldiers.

In 2016 a rule DoDD made a directive that local commanders could authorize concealed carry. With the emphasis not placed on individual responsibility in our current society, commanders erred on the side of safety for their careers. How soon before we see another FT Hood, Naval Ship yard, Recruiting Station or FT Stewart shooting again, Soldiers were made soft targets by Clinton and kept that way thanks to the weak sauce. Just my .02 aka opinion
 
Wait till you got caught by an inspection at the gate. More than a few people had their careers ruined thanks to Clinton disarming Soldiers.

In 2016 a rule DoDD made a directive that local commanders could authorize concealed carry. With the emphasis not placed on individual responsibility in our current society, commanders erred on the side of safety for their careers. How soon before we see another FT Hood, Naval Ship yard, Recruiting Station or FT Stewart shooting again, Soldiers were made soft targets by Clinton and kept that way thanks to the weak sauce. Just my .02 aka opinion

Crazy thing is the people at the top, and E7 down, are all on board with common sense. It's the bottom officer ranks that act like middle management and do absolutely nothing productive unless it's covering their ass.
 
Wait till you got caught by an inspection at the gate. More than a few people had their careers ruined thanks to Clinton disarming Soldiers.

Well... I didn't. ;)

I've had the random check before. Never did anyone ever get wanded. Run the dog through my truck all you want, gun is on ne.

I share your frustration. I just ignore the B.S.
 
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Crazy thing is the people at the top, and E7 down, are all on board with common sense. It's the bottom officer ranks that act like middle management and do absolutely nothing productive unless it's covering their ass.
You say that but I have met my share of retards that are enlisted and officers. Being a moron and/or risk adverse is not just an officer thing.

The ones that could authorize CC are not bottom ranks, they are your COL and above levels that have political aspirations. Just my opinion aka .02
 
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Well... I didn't. ;)

I've had the random check before. Never did anyone ever get wanded. Run the dog through my truck all you want, gun is on ne.

I share your frustration. I just ignore the B.S.
There was a Major with a CCW that forgot to secure his pistol when coming onto post at Fort Leavenworth. At the gate he realized that he forgot he had his pistol on him and without being asked he apologized to the gate guard and said that he has a CCW and asked if he could put the pistol away. He was detained and was quickly removed from the military. For him, honesty didn't pay.
 
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The directive has been around almost a decade but almost zero base commanders allow it.

All uniform soldiers should carry if they wish. It would make the security posture of all installations as well as military personal much more secure.

If you cant be trusted to carry a loaded gun stateside, you cant be trusted to wear the uniform.
 
Active duty military is as close to a socialist society as we have anywhere in America. They tell you where you will live, what job you will have, what you can and can’t say and that drills down to minute details of your life in many aspects. Free room and board, unlimited medical, guaranteed paycheck first and fifteenth. In return they get institutionalized warriors used to following every order to the word, at the sacrifice of many Constitutional protections where failure to obey is a criminal offense and no, you can’t quit until your years long contract is up. A necessary evil to institute discipline, but military society is anything but freedom based.

Commanders are control happy, and the older they are and longer they’ve lived in that anti-freedom environment the less likely they are to allow anything similar to regular society. Sad they keep getting taught the same lesson, and shameful they preach run-hide on base.

This shooter would get the infamous words from my old Platoon Sergeant, a cowboy boots and hat wearing Black Texan: “Punks like you give my race a bad name…”. That Marine was fucking awesome.
 
There was a Major with a CCW that forgot to secure his pistol when coming onto post at Fort Leavenworth. At the gate he realized that he forgot he had his pistol on him and without being asked he apologized to the gate guard and said that he has a CCW and asked if he could put the pistol away. He was detained and was quickly removed from the military. For him, honesty didn't pay.
Had something similar happen to someone in our OG but he didn’t volunteer anything, so they didn’t find anything. He retired as an LTC.
 
He was probably one of the ones that had to have someone next to him shooting at the very end of qualification... miraculously his score suddenly jumped just high enough everyone else could go home.

Personally I think this sort of thing should be considered an act of treason. You turn your rifle on your own men and it's not to stop some messed up war crime type crap... nah... you done messed up, firing squad, take aim!
 
Wait till you got caught by an inspection at the gate. More than a few people had their careers ruined thanks to Clinton disarming Soldiers.

In 2016 a rule DoDD made a directive that local commanders could authorize concealed carry. With the emphasis not placed on individual responsibility in our current society, commanders erred on the side of safety for their careers. How soon before we see another FT Hood, Naval Ship yard, Recruiting Station or FT Stewart shooting again, Soldiers were made soft targets by Clinton and kept that way thanks to the weak sauce. Just my .02 aka opinion

Not sure if it’s still allowed, but before I left the panhandle, you could carry loaded firearms through the gates on Hurlburt Field if you were assigned, retired LEO or a member of the rifle/pistol club. Had to leave it in your vehicle, but at least I didn’t have to stop, download and stow before entering.

Don’t drive 10 miles east and try that at Eglin.
 
The fact he was unarmed, the base commander should be charged and stripped of his retirement. Make it hurt where it should.


Making bases "safer" since 1992.

Department of Defense Directive 5210.66 often blamed on Clinton but brought to you under a Bush administration. Oh those tricky gun loving republicants and their humorous antics.

I would love to see a commander blanketly approve carry on base and see what happens next.