I'm really thinkin about tryin some short shells this year. I have a O/U in 12ga that has 3" chambers but its light and has a good thump. I plan to hunt with it a good bit this year for teal and timber. I won't be taking long shots and think a load of #4s ought to be a light recoil close range duck smasher. I have a 10ga. For open water late season so have a heavy hitter already. Anyone use em? Only interested in steel can't afford the 3 dollar a pop stuff.