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Suppressors "Best" user-serviceable .22LR suppressor ?

Dave3220

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I haven't had a whole lot of experience with "legal" suppressors...
Old Sionics on a MAC/Ingram very long ago, Ceiner .22LR integral on a take-down Browning .22 self-loader belonging to a friend 30 years ago, and now, my own SRT Commanche.22LR .

The Ceiner was a sealed unit, and with a bright well-focused light and young eyes, you could see how the unit was filling up with crud.
With my own Commanche, seeing how much crud gets in there after 1,000 to 1,500 rd.s and needs to be scaled-off and soaked off in a 50:50 solution of peroxide/white vinegar (as rec. my the manuf.), I truly believe that a .22LR suppressor for a private owner that is going to shoot more than a few boxes of ammo needs to be "user servicable".

I am curious about the Tactical Innovations .22LR suppresors and any other "user servicable" suppressors that some of the many "informed consumers" on this great list may have experience with that they wouldn't mind sharing.

I am have been trying the SRT on a couple of re-worked 10-22s and despite rubber-over-laid stocks, soft recoil buffers I am not as happy as I might be with the action noise and I believe that an Izmash straight-pull Biathalon rifle might make a better platform for me as well as being a bit more accurate than even a re-worked/re-barreled 10-22 seems capable of.

Currently the SRT is mounted on a Contender with an MGM 1:9" twist barrel to try to utilize 60 gr. Aguila "SSS" ammo. (Accurascy with 40 gr. std. vel. ammo seems to not be tops....)
I like how hard the 60gr. hits, but I am real concerned with accurascy, and giving up the versatility of being able to utilize 40 gr. loads might be to stiff a price to want to pay.

PS For varmints or smallgame I use flat-nosed ammo, or CCI 40 gr. Sub-Sonic h.p....The latter is a very reliable h.p. on a par with the exc. 40gr. Win Power-Point, and giving identical performance at a few yds. shorter ranges, but w/o the sonic "Crack!".

Dave
 
Re: "Best" user-serviceable .22LR suppressor ?

I would suggest looking into a silencer co sparrow. These silencers are well made and disassemble with out any tools. AAC elements are also a good option, price is higher with the element. I have shot almost everything out there and for accuracy, sound reduction, and price the Gemtech Oasis RD rifle is my favorite. I have never had cycling problems with good subsonic ammo and suggest staying away from Aguila subsonics, some mann. clearly state this with their products.
 
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I bought the Tactical Solutions MC, for this exact reason. I figured a .22 LR can ought to come apart for cleaning. Mine is at my dealers. I got an email from him about a week ago that said the Fm 4 was back, but I haven't had time to go get it yet. Looking forward to giving it a test run tho.
 
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Not sure this helps a whole lot.

But, I too am awaiting Fm 4 to clear soon on a Silencerco Sparrow. What sold me on that design was exactly the "user serviceable" requirement that you state. The modular nature, easy disassembly (for lead/carbon cleaning), and the light weight made it my choice. No hands on experience nor long term usage data. I'm a bit worried about Al vs. SS/Ti but it's the weight tradeoff at work.
 
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My .02 on your question.

You seem to be interested in three things.

1. User Serviceable

2. Extreme Accuracy

3. Dealing with three of the four sources of firearm noise, Blast, Action Noise, Sonic Signature.

Your solution is very straight forward and will allow you have extreme accuracy and resolve all three noise issues without ever using subsonic ammo. Subsonic is filthy, expensive and limiting. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to use subsonic ammo .22 ever again.

I have used this very same platform for decades, shot close to 10,000 rounds through it and it performs flawlessly each and every time. I would go as far as to say it is the most useful, most practical, most rewarding firearm I have had the please to own.

I am recommending an intergral .22 bolt action Ruger 77/.22 in stainless. With it you can shoot high velocity ammo and the bullet will never be allowed to go super sonic. The barrel is mounted under considerable stress creating remarkable harmonics athat make this not only the quietest .22 in the world (and has been for some 22 years) but is also one of the most accurate rifles I have seen in a .22. Its performance is nothing short of stunning. You will hear the sear break, the pin block move.

Now, you are thinking about "user serviceability" as it is a very popular subject these days with all thing suppressed. Sealed cans are quietest as they allow for much closer tolerances, they place harmonic torque on the barrel. The difference over the last 22 years has been a redesign of the baffles to actually propel waste out the muzzle. The result? In stainless, with the high pressure tool ($45), hot water and a little time (20 mins) once every 8,000-10,000 rounds you are done. Without the tool, all one does (I did it a grand total of two times in all these many years) is to cap the barrel, pour in one cup of denatured alcohol, shake, let it sit for 10 mins, drain, repeat. I have seen .22s with over 60,000 (sixty thousand) high velocity rounds through them that preform well without ever having been cleaned. I'll say it straight out, shoot high velocity, shoot copper coated, shoot reasonable quality .22 in a "purge" baffle and you do not need to ever disassemble. .22 disassembly has more to do with bad ammo, bad baffle exchange and subsonic shooting than it ever had to do with a "requirement" to crack can.

So that nobody gets pissed that I don't just say what brand I shoot outright, I think so much of this variant that I will.
I shoot this:

http://www.awcsystech.com/products/suppressors/ultra-ii-bolt-action/

I use this on a regular hot water tap. HUGE pressure is generated:

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You can clown around for a long time and never get close to the quiet of this set-up. Hear it and its end game.

Hope that helps.
 
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Honestly, I have no idea.

Hang on....

$799 on Gun Auction, sorry used.

New at Impact $1,200.00 list.

Id say call AWC but everybody is Shot Show crazed now.

Got through, $1,395.00 retail, complete rifle.
Send yours in, $995 to go Ultra II.





 
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No complaints about my SWR Spectre of my pal's TAC65 for half the money.
If you already have the Ruger 77/22, I'm sure AWC sells the barrel.
Accuracy-wise, there's a change in point of impact on my Douglas premium barreled .22AR, but SK Match or Standard shoots int 3/8-1/2" @50yd off the bipod.
 
Re: "Best" user-serviceable .22LR suppressor ?

Interesting read. But it's still advertising.
Sort of like Beeman's "educational" pieces regarding the superiority of the "adult precision spring piston air gun" some years back.
Might there be some bias?
 
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I think your statement is fair. Still, the breakdown of the four is still not well know and appreciated. The dB piece has got to to be better understood as well. dB is pressure, not pressure duration, not frequency. dB is almost wholly useless, repeat useless when dealing with the best cans. At that point it is all frequency shift and duration suppression at peak.
 
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I own an SWR Warlock (sealed unit ) and a Spectre . They are both equally quiet . The Spectre weighs more , but it is full-auto rated , and will work with .17 HMR and 5.7 . It included a special 'driver' to pull the endcap . They also sell a special tool to push the baffle-stack out , in case it gets stuck from carbon and lead build-up ...
 
Re: "Best" user-serviceable .22LR suppressor ?

I own and use the SWR Spector and it more than meets all your requirements. Use it on 22 LR and 17 HMR. Works great and with disassembly tool is easy to clean even though I believe the need to clean is at times overworked. Just my opinion
 
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I have been happy with my YMM Mite. It works well, disassembles easily, cleans up easily as well. It comes with an adaptor for taking it apart. For $225 I think it is a good deal.