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Lauri Allan Törni
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It is true
And those houses with a gun or 20 in them are why crime doesn’t sky rocket.
Cops protect the criminals from the citizens.
Not the other way around.
Mmmk. The US military is the most feared force on earth and has been for a century. The citizen soldiers aka the national guard and reserves, even as pathetic as they can be are more than anyone wants to mess with. Undoubtedly nobody wants to tie into the armed citizenry, but make no mistake, without an organized military and police force, you'd be speaking a different language. I don't really care if you agree. If you disagree it's because you've never witnessed the devastation that can be created by a well trained and organized military unit, because you've never been part of one. If you think movies like "the patriot" are reality, it's because you just don't know.
Nope. His voluntary service in the SS made him nothing more than a willing participant.
This actually did happen here in the US in the 50’s after Eisenhower was elected It was called “Operation Wetback“ where the US Border Patrol/INS actually rounded up thousands of illegals and shipped them back deep into Mexico.
HOW PRESIDENT EISENHOWER Solved The Illegal Immigration Problem In America * 100PercentFedUp.com * by Patty McMurray
"Some say we cannot send 12 million illegals now in the United States back where they came from. Of course we can!"
100percentfedup.com “In 1954, Ike appointed retired Gen. Joseph “Jumpin’ Joe” Swing, a former West Point classmate and veteran of the 101st Airborne, as the new INS commissioner.
Influential politicians, including Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D) of Texas and Sen. Pat McCarran (D) of Nevada, favored open borders, and were dead set against strong border enforcement, Brownell said. But General Swing’s close connections to the president shielded him – and the Border Patrol – from meddling by powerful political and corporate interests.
One of Swing’s first decisive acts was to transfer certain entrenched immigration officials out of the border area to other regions of the country where their political connections with people such as Senator Johnson would have no effect.
Then on June 17, 1954, what was called “Operation Wetback” began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country.
By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas.
By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily.
Unlike today, Mexicans caught in the roundup were not simply released at the border, where they could easily reenter the US. To discourage their return, Swing arranged for buses and trains to take many aliens deep within Mexico before being set free.”
Deep into Mexico or deep into occupied U.S. territory ... I'm OK either way.
The potential backfire for shipping them to occupied territories is the census impact and increased electoral votes.
Dude, I think maybe? you are speaking from experience. The problem is, most folks who can legitimately speak so, don’t do it in public subject to random easy interpretations for clicks, as it were. If so, I get it, but few will.
If you haven’t been that dude kicking in the door and offing someone’s father who probably didn’t really deserve it, before high fiving your crew, perhaps it’s time to step away.
So they are not speaking Vietnamese in Vietnam? Or farsi and Pashto in Afghanistan?
There's plenty of flaws in your arguments.
The SS was not deporting people. They were exterminating them.
While we should never have been in Iraq. The military was not ridding the country of citizens. It was trying to rid the country of insurgency.
Ridding the country of insurgency?
You still make it sound so noble. Give it more time, you'll get there.
I guess you skipped over the first part. We should never have been there to start with. When imperial governments draw borders and set up government for an area that has been tribal/religion run for thousands of years the topic should not be used as an example. Hence the flaw in your arguments. But do carry on. It's been fun reading.
BTW. Love the way you just skipped over the SS extermination program.
I skipped over nothing. I'm not a history teacher, I'm pointing out the holes is absolutist theories, nor did I ever say the SS was a great organization, charitable and well run. I don't know if they had 401k match or if they got paid holidays. All I kept saying is that you can't say that every single person in a group of a million people was an evil piece of shit. I've said it at least twice here that it is a mathematical impossibility. There was a group of SS officers that were executed for a failed attempt to stop Hitler, may have been a decent dude it that group. There's no flaw in my arguement. Absolutism is unrealistic in function.
But but but.. weapons of mass destruction, stop the spread of communism, Russia Russia, Putin bad,
Meanwhile under the guise of NATO we spread. We topple governments to establish an ass kissing step child. They have become so emboldened that they did it conus.
Yeah, we were actually there to get control of oil, including the easiest route outside of Iran to get from the Caspian Sea to the Gulf, which is through Afghanistan. How do we do that?
Just so happens, a handy event happens where terrorists born and raised in Saudia Arabia are taking orders from a guy who is also from Saudi Arabia but is hiding in a cave in Afghanistan near the Pakistan border using a sat phone and a lap top to circumvent the tightest air space and arguably the best air force in the entire world. He was able to instruct these guys how to get into cockpits without the FDR showing unlock status and door open status. Flight 77 FDR was the only data released. It showed the door close and door lock before push back from the gate, which is standard procedure. But it never showed cockpit door open after that. On ascension, the altimeter was adjusted from the local barimetric pressure at Dulles to 29.92, which you have to do going higher than 18k. You could see the tick in the recording.
On the descent, you have to adjust the barometric pressure from 29.92 to local pressure at your destination. Pentagon is basically the same as Dulles. That never happened. So, the record shows the plan about 150 feet above the ground at impact. That is a problem because the Pentagon is only about 80 feet high.
We were not there to stop insurgents. We were there to get oil and Al Qaeda had served their usefulness to us and no mas.
We wanted the oil. It's not about rescuing women from a demeaning culture.
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A man can’t base an argument on the exceptions to the rule. Speaking in generalities while understanding the possibility that exceptions exist is far more logical. You can judge a man by the company they keep as well. Something you aren’t taking into account.
I wasn't arguing for the exception, I was arguing with people who were stomping their feet and screaming that the exception didn't exist and anyone who disagrees is a nazi sympathizer. Go back and read it, that was the discussion..
You’re a fool if you don’t judge groups by what the vast majority do.
If you are walking in a city and see a group of teens and a group of Amish and react the same way you are tarded.
Police are no different than a group of gang members on a corner these days. They might ruin your life. They might not. At least you can somewhat defend yourself against one of the aforementioned gangs
You're doing it again.
Straw man arguement. I never said anything that any intelligent being could misconstrue that way.
It's also equally impossible to say they weren't.
Its almost like we should have some sort of gathering where we determine an individuals guilt or innocence...
Belonging to a mis-behaving group doesn't forfeit your rights. Your ancestors owned slaves. That's how the libs want you to pay reparations. You didn't do shit. Doesn't matter: Your group is responsible.
Funny how easy we fall into tyranny....
Un pequena problema -
I get your point. We often judge by the generalities of a group. So, seeing a group of amish people, we are not worried. We are simply in danger of having warm wool sweaters.
See a group of average kids dressing like gangsters and looking at everyone like a target, it is wise to worry about them.
So, in the same breath, a large number of cops are not gangsters, though a few are. Yet, we are being asked to judge all cops but the acts of some bad actors.
I also understand that some are simply going to dislike the notion of cops altogether as tools of overlords and states. I am discounting that entirely. I don't care if it is a sheriff's office, a police department, or Dalton's gang of ranch workers, someone is providing protection.
Nobody said anything about forfeiting rights. You can be the most disposable pos on the planet and still have rights, but you cannot rightfully be considered a good person.
There's plenty people in prison for crimes they did not actually commit themselves.
They are guilty because they had some association with the group or person that did commit the crime.
And my ancestors never owned slaves, they were too poor and at times could have been considered slaves themselves. Ever heard of indentured servitude and share cropping?
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I think the good doctor is trying to say that bartertown court is horseshit. That the system of investigating and determining guilt and punishment is better than warring over pigshit.
"two men enter, one man leave."
edited to add. We keep instituting systems of resolution.
Suddenly you don't like being judged by your group....hmmmmmmm. And if you dig back far enough EVERYONE is guilty of slavery (Despite the fact that bills of attainder are forbidden in the constitution). Fell hook line and sinker for that one.
TweedleDee and TweedleDum are all for violence against the police because they are all evil. When I point out that they can't all be evil (watch this misdirection) they move to things like the SS, Nazis, or ISIS. Then it becomes "He Said the SS is good" OR Deersniper comes along and says "Well we judge groups by actions all the time" And individuals opinion and precautions are not violence against an individual or a group.
Lets go back to the beginning: "What did this cop do that deserved a shot to the head"
If your answer is "well he's a cop so he was asking for it" then you are part of the problem. That's it. The rest of it is a bunch of dumbshits trying to hide behind distraction because they are assholes.
Perfect response. It won't get us back to that but it is the question that must be asked.
Well considering 40 percent beat their wives and that’s just what’s reported , chances are good he fucked with the wrong person or the wrong persons daughter mother etc
What is my group?
Who is the hypocrite that is judging me by it?
Does "everyone" include you?
Do you believe there were "good guys" in the SS?
Have you stopped beating YOUR wife yet?
See I’m part of the general population. Cops are 4 times more likely to best their wives than the general population.
If they beat their wives how do you think they treat the “criminals they haven’t caught yet” that they view with disdain ?
I was just assuming wives get beat less by gen pop because conjugal visits are restricted.
Next think coming, "not all politicians are bad!"
Imagine living in 2023, and still thinking that a select few members affiliated with a group that loaded women, children, and men into box cars, then gassed them to death, were "maybe", "possibly", "ya never know", still moral people.
I get it, at the time maybe people thought they were doing the right thing, but 80 years later, Im pretty sure we can all say that was some evil shit, and all involved own some of that. Im not fighting to purify their legacy.
Only a handful actually turned the gas nozzles "on", but a shitload participated. Was the guy that set the ladder up, so they could get in the box car evil, probably not. I imagine if they tripped, he likely helped them get in.
If you cant draw the comparisons there, then youre just a pawn writing the article below:
"55 year old lady tripped while going up a ladder into a rail car. Luckily, Hans Notchenozzleguy, was there to help the old lady get loaded in for her beautiful vacation trip to Auschwitz, where she plans to enjoy a new spa treatment".
Are cops loading people into box cars...nope. Are there some "nozzle guys" that need flushed out....yep. Are current participant doing that, not really. Does it make me sad when members in said group going along with it get clipped, maybe. But.....not anymore than gang members, Isis, or box car loaders.
Imagine living in 2023, and still thinking that a select few members affiliated with a group that loaded women, children, and men into box cars, then gassed them to death, were "maybe", "possibly", "ya never know", still moral people.
I get it, at the time maybe people thought they were doing the right thing, but 80 years later, Im pretty sure we can all say that was some evil shit, and all involved own some of that. Im not fighting to purify their legacy.
Only a handful actually turned the gas nozzles "on", but a shitload participated. Was the guy that set the ladder up, so they could get in the box car evil, probably not. I imagine if they tripped, he likely helped them get in.
If you cant draw the comparisons there, then youre just a pawn writing the article below:
"55 year old lady tripped while going up a ladder into a rail car. Luckily, Hans Notchenozzleguy, was there to help the old lady get loaded in for her beautiful vacation trip to Auschwitz, where she plans to enjoy a new spa treatment".
Are cops loading people into box cars...nope. Are there some "nozzle guys" that need flushed out....yep. Are current participant doing that, not really. Does it make me sad when members in said group going along with it get clipped, maybe. But.....not anymore than gang members, Isis, or box car loaders.
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Whoa, let's not start talking crazy.
I was willing to entertain the idea of SS good guys but good politicians ?
Not even gonna try to play peacemaker here, because fuck ‘em all, and all extremists should be shot on sight, right?
But at some point I hope y’all on both sides of this issue take a step back and realize this kind of infighting is exactly the type shit show they love to watch. Take your pick on who ’they’ are, but it furthers the aim of dissension and chaos.
Carry on…
But at some point I hope y’all on both sides of this issue take a step back and realize this kind of infighting is exactly the type shit show they love to watch. Take your pick on who ’they’ are, but it furthers the aim of dissension and chaos.
Carry on…
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Jan 6 political prisoners , pedophile politicians and .gov child sex rings , shows police are not far from it.
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Yeah, that's not going to happen. This will go on with interminable ACAB horseshit. The sun rises, the sun sets, the ACAB horseshit will continue forever and forever. This is what that they do, this is all they do. And they will not stop.
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False equivalency.
You have a serious problem. Seek medical attention.
Not me and your argument is weak. And only suits your needs. You do not have the depth of compasssion you claim to have. And this deputy was not a NAZI or SS. You just want to defend your belief that shooting cops is okay.
Again, you should be on some meds.
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What do you mean by murder a NAZI? What is the reason? And how does it tie in, at all, with the deputy being shot and killed by a guy who admittedly was off of his actual prescribed medications?
Your error here is you are playing chess with a pigeon.
In the end the pigeon is just going to shit on the board, knock all the pieces over and strut around like it won the game.
In reality, they are too dumb to recognize what is really happening. Its not worth your time, just a warning that some people are so dumb as to be dangerous to others. In fact they are just as dangerous as leftists because if you disagree with them, they will visit violence upon you one day should you run afoul of their narrow beliefs (see how fuckface twisted the "you support the SS" from "We should not summarily execute every SS member"). A pigeon wearing a MAGA hat or railing against government is still just a bird brain who carries salmonella.
I have to say that doc called it to a T. You just did precisely what he described.
Now, this is a shitfest of entertainment. I am laughing so hard that my gut is hurting.
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