Thank god we produce such an abundance of food that idiots like yourself can afford the luxury of buying “organic” or “natural” food. The simple fact is it not practical to produce it, as it requires a substantial amount more resources. How arrogant you must be to go around wasting resources and declaring that your shit don’t smell.
it’s a Gordian knot for sure. Whichever side of the argument you fall on it’s pretty hard to say we are not still agrarian dependent societies. And we still end up in defacto agreement with Gates regarding population numbers. Which does suck.
Clearly you don't understand the amount of input professional agronomists have on any commercial farm. Sure, the 5-40 acre "farms" run their own show, but when you are dealing with 4k+ acre farms there is a ton of research into which products are safe and effective to use. Agronomists ARE experts and DO know the detailed science about how chemicals/fertilizers work. Any farmer who gives a damn about the future of his operation consults an agronomist about things that are beyond their expertise.
Mike Adam's does some good research and reports on organic foods and supplements. We eat organic everywhere we can but I read an article some time ago about the cross pollination by bees between gmo and organic crops that just about any crop anymore is gmo on some level. Unless it's grown in a barn.
Apples and Oranges. Youre talking greater quantity, which I dont dispute. Im talking quality.
5th gen.
While I firmly believe that there is merit to playing in the dirt for antibodies, you may not be able to find the other sufferers you are requesting because they are already dead from anaphylaxic shock. Trust me, in Africa they don't know allergic reactions and don't know how to fix them in time when they turn severe. They only know "healthy/OK" and "oh shit, what now?". Nobody there really reports why people die; by and large it isn't important.
There are two sides of this. First, organic food tends to be grown with more care and less mass production. That is probably the main reason why it usually tastes better and appears to have more nutritional value.
Wrong.
Most of those labels are a slight of hand thing. The rules are not really enforced until inspection time or it's like saying sugar free when there's two gallons of high fructose corn syrup in it.
There isn’t an “organic” label or “natural” label by FDA. It is up to the maker/owner of the label.
Now you've convinced me that youre not only ignorant, likely stupid, but you just want to insult and stir shit, rather than discuss, or learn. No thanks, I have better things to do.
Amazing someone who has only seen a farm in pictures is the “expert”. Please continue to wow us with your facts.
That may be due to when it's harvested and how quickly it's consumed compared to retail food supply.
That lines up mostly with what I have read. They grow quicker, and are picked sooner, hence less nutrients.
Even here in the heart of the Flinthills we have big problems with invasive species taking over pasture ground. Early pioneers and the Gov’t during the dust bowl have purposely planted species (ie Osage orange trees aka “hedge trees” and cedar trees(which is a misnomer as they are a species of junipers) to name the biggest contenders). And are/have doing/done away with good land management procedures such as yearly burning of range land to control weeds and invasive species because people in the urban areas complain about the “air pollution” being created. The ground here is what it is and it is is the best in the United States for grazing cattle and other animals. Most of the ground around her has never been broken out but in a lot of places there is less than 3” of topsoil, down in the allies it can be deeper. I’d like to see all this land with 18” of top soil. Ain’t happenin’ here.
-Yes, I use (mostly) heirloom seeds. The tomatoes I grow will make anything you buy at the market taste like plastic. My favorites are Cherokee Purple, and Black Russian.
They did outlaw DDT.
Lol
Bro, I just had a steer slaughtered and all in my meat totaled to $1.07lb. Ground beef, steaks and everything. Even paying retail butchering prices leaves you profit if they are pasture raised. And you could still grain finish if you wanted. Right now even ground beef is so damn high you can make more money grinding your sorriest milk steer up into hamburger and gave a better product for sale and at compete level prices. You can definitely save more money for yourself going that route than trying to take a reject to the salebarn.
Gmo wheat huh ?
I think it’s easy to not think of farming and ranching as mining because there isn’t a big hole in the ground. But you are mining macro and micronutrients constantly. If you don’t put it back the tea bag won’t work very long.
I meant like feeding 40 or so, but last year my butcher was overwhelmed with new cattle and finally had to fall back just to traditional customers and traditional numbers. People who normally only butchered one a year were suddenly trying to get six. Numerous people were increasing numbers and expecting the same crew to butcher them. The waiting list turned to six months. Fat cattle can not wait. They are perishable.
Yeah that’s bot caused by all the raw sewage all the towns/cities dump every time we get a half inch of rain or more. Nope it’s the damn farmers
My area is close to you and the same brush problems. The sad thing is our grass would put the Flinthills and Osage to shame, but farmers turned it all over including my great grandad. He made the land run of 93. Prior to making the run he explored where he wanted to stake his claim. Those vast slit creek and river bottoms had grass as tall as he was on a horse and too thick to ride through. The plants root systems had to have been massive. It is gone forever. CRP can never replicate what was lost.
I used to live in the Hill country west and southwest of Austin. If you remove all the garbage, Prickly Pear, Cedar/Juniper, and other s, and replant the native grasses, it will return. Its expensive and labor intensive, but it works. Ive seen it. I do agree that it will never return to what it was.
Yeah that makes sense now. Thanks for the clarification.
LOL. You learned from other people. Hold on I thought that wasn't allowed. I thought if you didn't do it yourself you don't know? Thats the repeated logic here.
Oh wait, thats not true, and most of the people doing this research have made it open source. Really its not even arguable that it doesn't work. There are literally people who have been doing it for 50 years. 
