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Flood gates getting opened turning the USA into California

The Demsnonly want the illegals and Dreamer for votes... they don’t give two shits about those people. Trump should make a deal that every one of them will be allowed on a temporary basis; but not one of them or their off spring will EVER be allowed to vote until they become citizens of the United States; no fast lane deals either, the Dems would drop them like a hot rock...
 
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And that article does not even consider the economic loss to the economy of how their presence depresses wages for Citizens. Or the costs required of bilingual education. Or how much it costs to keep one walking Tattoo in prison. They are not a Benefit to anything or anyone but them. They should jump on Trumps deal before he says never mind.

Bilingual anything is a pet peeve of mine. The ESL mandates that public schools need to follow puts an incredible drain on what kids can learn. It forces teaching to the lowest common denominator.

You want to come to the US, learn the language. When my parents came here in 1958 from Greece, they waited for 4 years to get in. No handouts were provided. No "bilingual" training was provided - sink or swim. My parents learned the language and became citizens as soon as allowed by law. They did well for themselves. I have done considerably better despite struggling with the language in elementary school even though I was born here because we spoke Greek at home. My parents did not understand the grammar rules, etc. I had to sit in remedial English classes even though I was off the charts in mathematics.

The way illegal immigrants are treated today is an affront to immigrants that came here legally.
 
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What part of fucking illegal do some of you not understand? Tell you what, go to their country an try the shit they are doing here an see how long your ass is sucking air. The FSA an COD duty crowd keep getting stronger on the hide, but some of us like a good fight, an when it's for OUR country you know the one we stepped up to defend, we don't take kindly to assholes who think just because they were born here, an are in fact educated beyond their intelligence, an who have done nothing for this country except take, will have the last word or last free dollar from the public tit.

If you cocksuckers like them so much invite them to live with you, or better yet you seem to like what they represent an stand for, so why not get a ticket an go back with them an see why they left their own shit wholes instead of trying to clean up what they trashed up. It's about votes nothing more nothing less, but when the voting stops it will be about those who step up over those who fucking mouth an are always taking/looking for the easy way out.
 
like I said they cost us money, here is an article from an actual American at Harvard (whatever credibility that might bring to some), it clearly costs us billions and destroys the income growth of the lower classes. I suspect by your racist taco truck comments you are a Democrat (the party of the KKK) so you might not care about bringing along our fellow black citizens when the boat rises, most of us do.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216

 
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As a health care industry specialist I can attest to the financial cost of the illegals who show up in the ER right off the plane/boat, or whatever with complex problems that cost the taxpayer many hundred thousands of medicaid dollars per case to fix., and chain migration where they bring in their extended elderly family members for free care which by US by law cannot be denied on the basis of the EMTALA law, then they all get lawyers and cannot be sent home because their shit hole countries cannot take care of them, and an home trip would be tentamount to execution ( Cancer, Renal Failure, paraplegia, chronic infections etc)...cruel and unusual punishment...
And what about our Vets???? hmmmm? so sick of hearing about the illegal economic contributions.
 
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Harvard means more to you than it does to me. Who did the study means little. Who paid for the research in the study means more. So do you know who funded that study?

Do you know who condcuted the study The Hill cited? Any idea what FAIR is? Hint: It's a lobbying group.

Harvard is going to be a little less biased than a nativist lobbying group.
 
Let's see...because when you are an infant or minor, and your parents say "We are moving over here" you don't exactly have a choice. It's not exactly rocket science or an evil MSM brainwashing scheme.
Help me understand your train of thought. Their parents break our laws, an now it's our fault an duty to raise their children?
 
like I said they cost us money, here is an article from an actual American at Harvard (whatever credibility that might bring to some), it clearly costs us billions and destroys the income growth of the lower classes. I suspect by your racist taco truck comments you are a Democrat (the party of the KKK) so you might not care about bringing along our fellow black citizens when the boat rises, most of us do.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216

Hey dumbass. The author of the politico article is the same author as the study I linked too. Good job proving your argument.
 
Help me understand your train of thought. Their parents break our laws, an now it's our fault an duty to raise their children?

1. They didn't choose to be here. We don't throw kids in jail because their parents committed a crime.

2. They are de-facto Americans. They have American friends, pay American taxes, and contribute to the American economy.

3. Trump is being practical for once, and the nativists are freaking out. It's pretty funny.
 
WE don't have jurist diction over their kids, as they are here illegal in the first place, that falls upon their parents an home country! Just because they have been here illegality for x years does not change their status in the eyes of the law. Legally they can be deported at anytime.

I have Russian an Japanese friends does that mean I can claim their country's benefits as well?
 
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1. They didn't choose to be here. We don't throw kids in jail because their parents committed a crime.
We don’t by them a house and car either.
2. They are de-facto Americans. They have American friends, pay American taxes, and contribute to the American economy.
They are illegal Aliens. I have American friends, who pay American taxes and contribute to American society. They come first.
3. Trump is being practical for once, and the nativists are freaking out. It's pretty funny.
And those innocent DACA kids are protesting with Mex flags calling The American President Hitler. It’s pretty sad!
 
Being called a dumbass by a racist is the highlight of my day. Now you are calling us nativists????? What next, you going to come out with a cisgender confession? I thought your kind was moving to Canada????? Or, are you actually Canadian?

QUOTE="BangBangBlatBlat, post: 6879961, member: 70682"]Hey dumbass. The author of the politico article is the same author as the study I linked too. Good job proving your argument.[/QUOTE]
 
Being called a dumbass by a racist is the highlight of my day. Now you are calling us nativists????? What next, you going to come out with a cisgender confession? I thought your kind was moving to Canada????? Or, are you actually Canadian?

QUOTE="BangBangBlatBlat, post: 6879961, member: 70682"]Hey dumbass. The author of the politico article is the same author as the study I linked too. Good job proving your argument.
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You sound pretty triggered buddy. I think it's about time you went and took a nap.
 
ding ding ding, next you will be calling for pussy marches while waving the mexican flag and wearing your canadian maple leaf hat. Go back to your leftist book of names and phrases and come up with something new instead of the same ole douchebaggery. I am a nativist and a proud American so what you think is derogatory is actually an accurate description of 75 % of my country, kind of like calling us Deplorables, doesn't work, douche bag.

QUOTE="BangBangBlatBlat, post: 6880195, member: 70682"][/QUOTE]

You sound pretty triggered buddy. I think it's about time you went and took a nap.[/QUOTE]
 
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Hard to know what he’s doing. I hope this is a tit for tat thing to get this deportation and security measures going. His advisors must be very busy keeping up with him ...
 
Easy answer to the Illegal "immigrant" problem.
What rights do Illegals have in this country?

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They have one right. The Right to be deported. They will take Trumps deal, unless they are fools.
 
ding ding ding, next you will be calling for pussy marches while waving the mexican flag and wearing your canadian maple leaf hat. Go back to your leftist book of names and phrases and come up with something new instead of the same ole douchebaggery. I am a nativist and a proud American so what you think is derogatory is actually an accurate description of 75 % of my country, kind of like calling us Deplorables, doesn't work, douche bag.

QUOTE="BangBangBlatBlat, post: 6880195, member: 70682"]

You sound pretty triggered buddy. I think it's about time you went and took a nap.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

You're a dumbass. Nativists was an accurate label for pretty much everyone that has cared to comment on this thread.

Something tells me you are not nearly as triggered when white people do the same kind of shit.
 
You sound pretty triggered buddy. I think it's about time you went and took a nap.
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You're a dumbass. Nativists was an accurate label for pretty much everyone that has cared to comment on this thread.

Something tells me you are not nearly as triggered when white people do the same kind of shit.[/QUOTE]

If we had 10 million whit illegals it would be. I’m an equal opportunity hater.
 
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If a family sneaks into Disney land with their kids and they get caught does Disney land have the right to remove them?
The parents knowingly broke the law. They put their children in extreme risk. But it’s the American taxpayers responsibility somehow.
My children are now going to have to compete with these “Dreamers” for a spot at college or a good job.
I have seen it first hand. They are entitled and just want more and more. They want to come to our country because theirs is so ducked up and use all of our benefits they aren’t even entitled to. They want to demand we change our ways for them. I’m sorry if your ways were so good than your country wouldn’t be such a shithole. Let Border Patrol and ICE do their jobs and enforce the law.
 
Also their are plenty of white illegal aliens. Many come over on visas and just never leave. Russians, Romainians, you name it.
 
You sound pretty triggered buddy. I think it's about time you went and took a nap.
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You're a dumbass. Nativists was an accurate label for pretty much everyone that has cared to comment on this thread.

Something tells me you are not nearly as triggered when white people do the same kind of shit.[/QUOTE]

What’s so wrong about putting my country first? The rest of the world does. Why is it our responsibility to try to fix the rest of the world?
 
There you go with the race card again, you need to get into the 21st century man, nobody really gives a fuck about race anymore, except for those that seek to divide us. Racially, Mexicans are white for the most part, unless they happen to be black or asian but that is a very small percentage of their population.

I kind of been experimenting on your democrat ass, just to see how racist and racially focussed you really are, Mexicans are white, you are white, you are the one who is "triggered", to use your term, in reality you are a mentally ill man, you struggle to see things through racially colored glasses when there is no there there. I hope you are old and not long for this earth, people like you gave us the Trump presidency, you and Obama, you racist POS's.
 

You're a dumbass. Nativists was an accurate label for pretty much everyone that has cared to comment on this thread.

Something tells me you are not nearly as triggered when white people do the same kind of shit.[/QUOTE]

What’s so wrong about putting my country first? The rest of the world does. Why is it our responsibility to try to fix the rest of the world?[/QUOTE]

Every nativist movement in American history has been wrong.

It's not fixing the world, it's about doing what is the most sensible. According to the author that even ArmyJerry trusts from Politico (the guy from Harvard, not a natavist lobbying group) illegal aliens provide a net benefit to the country.

Guess what? A huge police force to deport 12 million people is enormously expensive. A gigantic momument on the Southern border is also expensive. Both provide no net benefits.

There's a simple reason that every serious policy proposal from both sides includes some form of Amnesty.
 
republicans want cheap labor at the behest of the AMCham, Dems want votes, the rest of America is wising up to this game. Trump wants cheap labor at his hotels. Stupid fucks like you think we owe the world free and open citizenship in our country because you feel guilty for something you did in your life.

The rest of us want the goddamn law followed. Lock them up and deport every criminal illegal.
 
You're a dumbass. Nativists was an accurate label for pretty much everyone that has cared to comment on this thread.
At what point does Patriotism become Nativism? No one ever said no immigrants! They said no Illegals! Get in line.

Every nativist movement in American history has been wrong.
When did any of those Nativist Movements (sounds like dropping a duce at home :) ) Include open boarders?

It's not fixing the world, it's about doing what is the most sensible. According to the author that even ArmyJerry trusts from Politico (the guy from Harvard, not a natavist lobbying group) illegal aliens provide a net benefit to the country.
Its about easy not sensibility!

Guess what? A huge police force to deport 12 million people is enormously expensive. A gigantic momument on the Southern border is also expensive. Both provide no net benefits.
A wall would work to prevent another influx of sweet innocents just yearning for a Govt. check. A law making it a felony to hire said innocents would actually be very easy and cheap.

There's a simple reason that every serious policy proposal from both sides includes some form of Amnesty.
Because the problem has been ignored so long its the easiest way to just end it once and for all.