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Well, it’s easy, I don’t have a reloading setup yet because I’d rather buy once and ain’t nobody got nothing for sale, and Prime only sells 300NM ammo with jacketed bullets
If it makes you feel better, I have a 1:10-1:6 LHGT 300/308 30” barrel blank sitting in my closet... that’s also waiting on said reloading setup to exist.
Since you’re taking requests, I *do* want my cheek rest and bag rider to be nitrided. For the aesthetic.
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LOLOLOL and luckily for you I am like the Bobby "I know a guy" Bones from the movie 2 guns, lolol
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Theis
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Damn, you learn those moves while knocking people over the head and carrying them out the fields to your cave, lol?
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Theis
for the guys who know more than i do (which is most) how fast have 30 cal bergers been pushed before the blow up.
i guessing some guys have tried them in really necked down cartridges with big powder charges
last few posts got the juices flowing today
i guessing some guys have tried them in really necked down cartridges with big powder charges
last few posts got the juices flowing today
From what I’ve heard, 300,000 rpm (twist/12 * muzzle speed in FPS * 60s/min) is the limit for thin-jacketed bullets, and if the rifling is poorly done you might well be blowing up in the 280-290 range.
Numero uno por vavor senior...
More speed. And AI rifles need to be manageable out in the field. For me it’s truck to range.
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Ok so here is a question(s)...
With option one being fast exit twist specifically for monolithics in the 300NM.
What gain in speed are you getting from the 3 inches more of barrel that CANNOT be gotten from just pushing them faster out of the case?
Because you are not worried about blowing jackets due to being pushed too fast.
Because the gain in speed from longer barrel is no better at transonic stability (projectile dependent of course) than the transonic stability from pushing them faster out the gate from the 27" barrel.
Are you wanting to go 1 burn rate slower that needs the extra burn length in order to reduce cartridge pressures, extending brass life, etc ???
What is your desires/utilization of the extra speed via longer barrel?
1. Better transition?
2. Extend transition?
3. Purely TOF?
4. Etc Etc
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Theis
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You referencing the HP level stuff or traditional?
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Theis
If you happened to have a longer barrel on either one, I'd want it, but I'm also happy with your standard 27" barrels.
If the 27" barrels are what is standard coming off the line, I'll take the rifle with one of those right away rather than waiting longer.
As you mentioned above, since we can push the projectiles faster, all is good with the 27" barrels.
I've got enough Lapua .338LM brass but I'll need to buy the better turned brass for pushing the monolithics to a bit higher pressures.
Are you finding anyone with the lathe turned brass for the standard stuff (such as .338LM) in stock or is it all infinite back order?
I assume for your super high pressure 7mm/.338 Leonidas rounds when that comes out, you'll probably be selling the cases and loaded ammunition as well as the barrel upgrade kits?
Thanks for the updates, it's great to almost be at the: "Shut up and take my money" stage HA!
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To the point I am about ready to machine my own. It is crazy to be 90+ days on standard cartridge stuff but that is just the nature of the industry right now.
Absolutely correct. For the HP stuff we will be selling not only loaded ammunition but tailored to your barrel.
You have no idea, lolol
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Theis
Hi,
While that may seem like a simple question, lol..it is actually quiet complex.
Short Answer is:
Badlands Precision 215grain projectiles.
Our magazines are AI CIP but for someone that wanted to push the envelope we will be testing some faster burn rate powders and see what MV we can pick back up with putting them in magazine length COAL.
Now to the complex part in regards to what 30cal solids best take advantage...
That would depend on what advantage you were seeking.
Seeking transition advantage?
Seeking pure supersonic advantage?
Seeking TOF advantage?
Seeking penetration advantage?
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Theis
If I had to pick one or the other I would also pick the bullet with the greatest supersonic range. I would be willing to give up a little for a bullet that transitions well though.
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O for that...You want the fast exit twist for Monos. Then you just push them as hard/fast as you can since you will not be concerned about whether they become unstable during the transition once they start slowing down velocity wise with such RPMs.
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Theis
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Finishing up NV bridges today.
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Theis
Finishing up NV bridges today.
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Theis
how does the 20moa part work in relation to the 20moa on the action as i change the mounting position?
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As soon as I have the barreled action and chassis back from coating I will let you know.
I have been purchasing NV shit to wrap my head around it via utilization but the paper side of my brain says production will be 0 angle on the NV Bridge.
I also am working on something that I may need the angle with...TBD.
You know anyone that has PVS30 housings, lol??
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Theis
I’ve been following this thread since the beginning and have thoroughly enjoyed both the journey and the transparency.
Apologies if this has been addressed in various responses but could you shed some light on your thought process on:
1. why you decided to do this (what was missing from the market, etc.), and
2. who did you want/expect your target customer to be?
Apologies if this has been addressed in various responses but could you shed some light on your thought process on:
1. why you decided to do this (what was missing from the market, etc.), and
2. who did you want/expect your target customer to be?
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To make is short because it will be 2 pages...lol
We are looking for the discerning customer who values innovation, personalized experiences and a weapon system designed from the ground up to expand the internal and external ballistic envelope.
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Theis
To make is short because it will be 2 pages...lol
We are looking for the discerning customer who values innovation, personalized experiences and a weapon system designed from the ground up to expand the internal and external ballistic envelope.
Sincerely,
Theis
Precision Rifle Media: podcast 164
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Well coating is definitely taking way longer than anticipated!!
Chassis and receiver is still at coating and I am about ready to go from pulling my hair out to pulling my teeth out, lol.
So now I have the NV bridges heading to polishing.
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Theis
Well coating is definitely taking way longer than anticipated!!
Chassis and receiver is still at coating and I am about ready to go from pulling my hair out to pulling my teeth out, lol.
So now I have the NV bridges heading to polishing.
Sincerely,
Theis
So just a guess here.... think Accuracy International reliability + Gunwerks system + alot of forethought = Hoplite
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Is that about right?
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Pretty close.
We have taken system strength to an entirely new dimension with alloys chosen for the bolt and the breech cylinder. There is just no way for standard utilized metals to meet or surpass the ultimate tensile strength, yield strengths, ductility, ect as the Aermet 100 alloy we use.
So on top of the reliability we are able to safely push cartridge ballistics without much compounding fatigue issues on the bolt/breech cylinder.
We haven't announced it yet, so now is as good as time as ever, lol.
We are teaming up with ZCO for the day scope optical component of our package systems!!
We also are working the logistics out on offering our customers a free 1 day familiarization/armorers course to bring their Hoplite Arms rifle to the training facility and have us explain and go over the entire system along with getting them on targets out to a mile.
Same course at a cost though, will be offered to potential customers in which the will utilize a factory demo rifle. Cost of course will be credited to the purchase of a Hoplite Arms rifle.
The EXPERIENCE of becoming a Hoplite Arms customer must be included in your "formula" above, lol...Our intentions is to provide a better experience along with a great product.
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Theis
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so when can we get to work on a better reticle in those ZCO’s?
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Correct.
You sign up for the familiarization/armorers/demo course and pay the tuition.
You come down and enjoy a casual day with us at the range. We explain the in's/outs of the system as a whole and you get to put some rounds downrange.
At the end of the course we will exchange credit code for you to roll over the course tuition into your weapon system.
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Theis
Are they letting you offer any special package deals at a lower cost than getting things separate?
Assuming of course thanks to the world still being all crazy about Covid, things may change, is this going to be at your LA facility, or were you still planning on a few road show events around the country?
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@W54/XM-388
Training HQ will be in Texas.
Other geographical regions will be spun up as needed.
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Theis
@W54/XM-388
Training HQ will be in Texas.
Other geographical regions will be spun up as needed.
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Theis
Hi,
We also will be inviting some select members to join us for a free gathering aka course proof out to get a few rounds on target and introduction to the weapon system before it goes on sale.
This will be a pretty informal meet and greet type event.
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Theis
We also will be inviting some select members to join us for a free gathering aka course proof out to get a few rounds on target and introduction to the weapon system before it goes on sale.
This will be a pretty informal meet and greet type event.
Sincerely,
Theis
I too have followed this thread from the beginning and as an aero engineer (from the stone age era, really LOL) I have found it very, very interesting. Not just the design, but the process of iterative design/changes.
Probably not a rifle for me...at least not at this time...but I do wish @THEIS the best of luck with his product launch. I really appreciated the incredible transparency he has shown the community during this weapon system design process.
Probably not a rifle for me...at least not at this time...but I do wish @THEIS the best of luck with his product launch. I really appreciated the incredible transparency he has shown the community during this weapon system design process.
Details needed!
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Details so far, lol...
Aspis model rifle with LH Gain in new alloy from Bartlein.
ZCO Scope
300NM with mono goodness
1 Mile range
Some kind of BBQ from one of the local pit gurus
Full layout, explanation and details of the this vs that, why vs why not of the rifle, chassis, scope, Genesis Ballistics Solutions mobile app, etc.
We will be discussing best methodology for selecting the first invitees.
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Theis
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Ahhhh....Last day of the year update, lol.
Receiver and Chassis out of coating/metal treatment...heading for barreling!!
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Theis
Ahhhh....Last day of the year update, lol.
Receiver and Chassis out of coating/metal treatment...heading for barreling!!
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Theis
Pictures please 
Theis,
I am always excited to read updates about your rifles. I may have missed it but have you announced pricing for the systems and components yet? Thanks and happy new year!
Birdsong coatings?
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On this revision 3 of the receiver and chassis system we are using it to test a new metal treatment for the entire bolt assembly, trigger assembly and interior of action body while the exterior action body is DLC and the chassis is Type 3 hard anodize.
The type 3 hard anodizing of the chassis will let our tester and introductory course students get a better "feel" of the flow, lines and radii of the chassis in its true form without cerakote (Being thicker) acting as a smoothing agent.
We want to get raw data to make the decision on what chassis coating we are going to run with for production and it lets us add another coating in which we have the entire chassis drawings specified for its' thickness.
The DLC exterior of receiver body is to see how it holds up compared to the Birdsong being DLC is used more widely in the industry. I cannot tell a potential customer why Hoplite chose Birdsong or DLC if I do not know first hand how the DLC on the Hoplite action does. We know exactly how the Birdsong holds up and it is pretty damn awesome.
The entire bolt assembly, trigger assembly and interior of action is being tested with a relatively unknown (To the firearms industry) metal treatment that has crazy friction coefficient with adding absolutely 0 dimensional changes.
All that said and typed with the caveat of production models could very well be back to my top pick as of right now...Birdsong.
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Theis
Thanks Theis, I am so impressed with your process. So different than most of this industry’s companies, very refreshing compared to the pre buy and wait for ever or a recall because it hasn’t been tested. I think you will be very successful.
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