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    the bottom "duck blind" is cool.

    wonder if a hydro dip would get in all the crevice's
    Just watched a bunch of Hydro dip gun stock vids... seems from what I saw and comparison to the crevices on this, it would take ok.

     
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    I've hydro dipped a few stocks previously. Come out good.

    Look into multi colour anodizing. We can't do it in Australia, but the paintball guys have it down to a fine art. Super impressive.
     

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    My good friend Tyler Fare is:
     

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    Really nice, I’ve see the original splatter effect a few years ago.
    That is really nice
     

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  • Hi,

    So I got a couple questions sent to me that more people are probably interested in too, so here goes.

    1. How does the rifle balance and where is balance point?

    I will work of finding a more narrow item later today/this weekend.

    ETA: Will trade lumber scraps for enclosed cargo trailer with AC unit, lol

    20210716_072643.jpg


    2. How secure is the locking hinge?

    I removed the internal spring from this piece so I could pull it out far enough to show the locking clasp.
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    Here I the hinge side of the locking mechanism.
    20210715_194410.jpg


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  • I was going to order one of those Elite Iron bipods to go with the rifle, so if you want, I'll be happy to buy the bipod from you when you are done testing with it, if you don't wind up wanting to keep it.

    Hi,

    What model/features were you interested in and I will get that exact model to test out?

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    Hi,

    What model/features were you interested in and I will get that exact model to test out?

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    I was thinking that probably the weight would be a good thing so might as well stick with the steel, so I was going to go with:

    REVOLUTION BIPOD Standard Steel Model​


    Or if they think you need the bigger model for your rifle, then:

    REVOLUTION BIPOD STEEL .50 CAL MODEL


    I currently have the standard steel one on my AXMC and it's very nice and stable.
    I don't think there is much need for the "panning" model.

    Right now on the AXMC, I have it attached to a piece of rail on the underside of the handguard.

    The mounting ring diameter appears to be about 2.1 inches

    Generally folks want to put these as far forward as possible, so I wonder if they have ever thought about doing a custom mount for the Arca rail since a lot of folks are now moving to that going forward?
     

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    i have been clicking around for another waste of time project as i usually do

    but i found a few steel arca/RRS rails that can be attached to m-loc

    plan using them as a forward extension

    you can prob find the same for the AX

    currently im using the Pheonix top hanger and its a beast
     

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  • Hi,

    Hmmm, so it appears Elite Iron does not have a mounting interface that can go directly to RRS rail so we would have to Mlok a short picatinny rail out front but picatinny rail is probably more secure in regards to the bipod mounting and its' forces under recoil.

    RRS rail "clamps" tension can be a hit/miss depending on who manufacturers the tensioning device as to where Picatinny rails have a built in "hard stop".

    YAY...another thing to ponder and get to the bottom of, lol

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    ^^^^if it was only that easy lol

    i wonder how many reviews are posted on the net calling a rifle not accurate etc..because they use a Chinese knock-off product and the MFG has to go into triage mode knowing they cant call them a "Poor"
     

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  • Build it to the spec and everyone who bitches can go pound sand for being out of spec. Its not your job to support others bad machining ;)
    View attachment 7669209

    Hi,

    Our integral RRS rail on bottom of forend is built to that exact specification.
    I was referring to having a direct mount adaptor for the Elite Iron to go to RRS rail instead of picatinny rail.
    I am definitely not wanting to make that adaptor so that would depend on the clamping fixtures of someone else.

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    Hi,

    Hmmm, so it appears Elite Iron does not have a mounting interface that can go directly to RRS rail so we would have to Mlok a short picatinny rail out front but picatinny rail is probably more secure in regards to the bipod mounting and its' forces under recoil.

    RRS rail "clamps" tension can be a hit/miss depending on who manufacturers the tensioning device as to where Picatinny rails have a built in "hard stop".

    YAY...another thing to ponder and get to the bottom of, lol

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    Theis
    You may have already researched this option and poo poo'd it but Area 419's Arcalock rails work with all std. Arca pattern accessories but also have the linear load being intercepted with their rail notches and compatible accessory interfaces.


    I am positive that they offer the rail specs to other manufacturers to be used under license.

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  • Hi,

    For those that might have missed the previous assembly/disassembly of the bolt video.

    Here is a new one. YES that is the real firing pin spring, lol.


    Also, I received a question about what happens if the magazine is rested on something; does it jam the bolt?

    Our receiver is designed and cut to have the magazine "hard stop" into the receiver itself. It just physically cannot go any further into the receiver body without destroying the magazine.

    20210716_084844.jpg


    Video coming soon.

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    Now I wonder just how much arm twisting we have to do to Elite Iron to get them to do a RRS mounting adaptor, lol
    ....or look into two other options.

    1: Approach Jon Addis about a minimum run of AcraLock adapters from Area 419. (He is a beast with a lot of design talent and knows how to make his high end CNCs perform to their potential).

    2: Approach the guy in the mirror about designing and making some dedicated adapters. All it takes is SolidWorks and some machine time.

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    @THEIS
    You mentioned earlier about needing a black scope for your pictures.
    I have a S&B PMII 12-50 x56 scope (that I got actually to put on the rifle), that I can send you if want something to take pictures with.

    Also on the mount for the bipod, I'm good with whatever way you wind up going.
     
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  • ....or look into two other options.

    1: Approach Jon Addis about a minimum run of AcraLock adapters from Area 419. (He is a beast with a lot of design talent and knows how to make his high end CNCs perform to their potential).

    2: Approach the guy in the mirror about designing and making some dedicated adapters. All it takes is SolidWorks and some machine time.

    ./

    Hi,

    Ironically I just received a new mirror 2 days ago and have not used it yet.

    So I just took your advice and look at what I seen in it, lololol
    1626445775844.png


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    Hi,

    Ironically I just received a new mirror 2 days ago and have not used it yet.

    So I just took your advice and look at what I seen in it, lololol
    View attachment 7669236

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    I will be texting you two links this morning.
    One is for a good Optometrist and the other for a Therapist. LOL.


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    Hi,

    Last update picture for the weekend, lol..

    I am unplugging..well that is what I am telling myself, lol

    Have to work on logistics of a few things in October.

    Birdsong green and black combo.

    View attachment 7669330View attachment 7669331View attachment 7669332View attachment 7669333View attachment 7669334

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    That’s a nice looking combo. I’m still leaning toward my multi cam alpine idea though. If @gayguns will get me the flecktarn and nightstalker renders I could decide.
     

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    That’s a nice looking combo. I’m still leaning toward my multi cam alpine idea though. If @gayguns will get me the flecktarn and nightstalker renders I could decide.
    i said i wasnt getting tactical colors but it does look really nice, nice matte finish too

    everytime i think i want flek, i see a few more pics and i falls out of favor again

    i think it stems from watching to many hours of WWII footage and reading

    russian camo is pretty cool too...no the 3 stripe one

    tell gayguns to get off his ass and start photoshopping already...we are a bunch of grown men playing barbie lol
     

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    i said i wasnt getting tactical colors but it does look really nice, nice matte finish too

    everytime i think i want flek, i see a few more pics and i falls out of favor again

    i think it stems from watching to many hours of WWII footage and reading

    russian camo is pretty cool too...no the 3 stripe one

    tell gayguns to get off his ass and start photoshopping already...we are a bunch of grown men playing barbie lol
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  • Hi,

    Some of you get carried away with colors and color schemes; that is for SURE!!!, lol

    Here is super super brief video showing the tool-less adjustments of the buttstock.
    Notice the LOP and Cheek Piece adjustments ride in enclosed tracks so they do not come out while making adjustments.


    Our 4 T&E "Kopis Conversion" magazines are printed and our 20 300NM (slightly modified internals) 15-5PH printed cartridge cases went on DMLS machine today.


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    Hi,

    Some of you get carried away with colors and color schemes; that is for SURE!!!, lol

    Here is super super brief video showing the tool-less adjustments of the buttstock.


    Our 4 T&E "Kopis Conversion" magazines are printed and our 20 300NM (slightly modified internals) 15-5PH printed cartridge cases went on DMLS machine today.


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    When's the 700 footprint coming out? 1😆😂😪😭
     

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    Hi,

    Right after the big bore lever gun for African PH's and the high pressure capable rejuvenation of the PSG1.

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    OHHHHHH! Can I get my lever gun with a big loop and a saddle ring? Please. Since you are going to be using your propriety high pressure cartridges a box fed detachable mag might be nice since people seem to frown on tube magazines with spitzer bullets. A 30 Leonidas should do the trick, but it may have some nasty recoil. Don't forget a limb saver pad.
     
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    OHHHHHH! Can I get my lever gun with a big loop and a saddle ring? Please. Since you are going to be using your propriety high pressure cartridges a box fed detachable mag might be nice since people seem to frown on tube magazines with spitzer bullets. A 30 Leonidas should do the trick, but it may have some nasty recoil. Don't forget a limb saver pad.
    Limb saver? Rookie order for sure. Gotta have that combo as a mares leg in the new proprietary 30-30 Leonidas magnum straight wall. They'll feed better with the round nose and turn heads with the toolless adjustable western camo pattern big loop.
     
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  • Hi,

    Ahhh, the joys of progression.

    CIP 338 external dimensions but spacer, follower and feed lips for short action.

    Post printing machining processes still to be done but almost ready to test.

    ETA: They are printed in 316SS by the way, lol

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    Hi,

    Hmmm, so it appears Elite Iron does not have a mounting interface that can go directly to RRS rail so we would have to Mlok a short picatinny rail out front but picatinny rail is probably more secure in regards to the bipod mounting and its' forces under recoil.

    RRS rail "clamps" tension can be a hit/miss depending on who manufacturers the tensioning device as to where Picatinny rails have a built in "hard stop".

    YAY...another thing to ponder and get to the bottom of, lol

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    You just need to invent the "ARCATinny" rail interface. You will sell dozens!
     

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  • Despite people like me... this thread is awesome. So cool to watch the cutting edge of technology in real time.

    Hi,

    Not sure if cutting edge of technology or leading edge of crazy but the test batch of 3D printed in 15-5PH 300NM cases are ready for post printing processes too.....

    FWIW the little bowtie looking pieces of the tensile testing coupons. Tested pre and post heat treatment process.

    Next time I show these you will not even recognize them as the same cases; stay tuned for the end product :)

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    They thought Newton was crazy…..

    Darn apple.

    Not that I like Warren Buffett, and he was called crazy many times for his investment ideas when he was young.
     

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    Theis, this is fascinating to watch. For those of us who have never seen a metal 3d printed part in person, can you share whether what we see on the case rim is an artifact of the process or an intentional design feature?
     

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    Theis, this is fascinating to watch. For those of us who have never seen a metal 3d printed part in person, can you share whether what we see on the case rim is an artifact of the process or an intentional design feature?

    actually, looking at it longer, I‘m wondering if the very bottom portion actually resides below where the case rim will be?
     

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  • How long to “print” the cases as pictured?

    Awesome stuff. Cool to see!!

    Hi,

    I moved your question via quote to this thread instead of the magazine thread in Armory subsection, lol..

    Approximately 7 hours 11 minutes 26 seconds.

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  • Do you print those in house?

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    No.....We would have to print a shit ton of cartridge cases in order to bring in a 3/4 million dollar printer, lol

    Metal printing is a SPECIALTY that should be left to those that ONLY do Metal printing.

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    Although R&D work isn't cheap either. I bet those cases cost more than my current rifle set up lol.

    How do you choose and set neck tension?
     

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    Hi,

    I moved your question via quote to this thread instead of the magazine thread in Armory subsection, lol..

    Approximately 7 hours 11 minutes 26 seconds.

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    With this amount of time to print the cases plus post printing time, this doesn’t really seem like an economical consumer production process. Is there a way to speed up the process, or to use a diy process, to produce enough at and a consumer price range?