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Its official, Pootin has attacked Ukraine.

There has been a steady parade of politicians through that country for a long time.
Many of them are from the republican side of the bird.
You know and I know that Ukraine.gov has been crooked as Hell and potato head and his son are complicit in much of it. But the Russians piss me off and it looks like, so far, the Ukrainians are giving them a pretty bloody nose. We just need to stand back.
I am not a fan of Putin but if they, the Russians, were doing what NATO has been doing on our southern border what would we be doing? We'd be clearing Mexico the very same way.
 
There has been a steady parade of politicians through that country for a long time.
Many of them are from the republican side of the bird.

I am not a fan of Putin but if they, the Russians, were doing what NATO has been doing on our southern border what would we be doing? We'd be clearing Mexico the very same way.
Agreed, but we need to clear Mexico anyhow. Invade, kill all the cartels and stop the flow of drugs like the fentanyl coming from China. I f we spent a tenth of what we did for twenty years in A-stan we'd be much safer and secure if we secured OUR FUCKING border.
Sorry for the rant/shout but as a Texan it really pisses me off.
 
I reckon at this point Im confused.

-On the one hand we hate the corrupt 'Nazi' Biden pals of Ukraine.

-On the other one must remember that when all is said and done, Pootin is a fucking communist and is kissing the Chinee ass.

-Youve gotta hate stupid and the Europeans, while knowing that Russian commies are not to be trusted, have allowed themselves to become energy dependent on commies.

-As in the statement above, youve gotta hate stupid, and we've allowed our country to be usurped by geedy, incompetent, fucktards on both sides.

I suppose the only logical recourse is to hate everybody.

Fight me.

And BTW, Dern Yankee, its too fucking cold in Ukraine.
 
Better learn Spanish cuz Trump was the last one that will try to secure that border.
The republicans and the democrats want an american union. Northern countries of South America, central America and North America union. Similar to the EU.
Agreed, but we need to clear Mexico anyhow. Invade, kill all the cartels and stop the flow of drugs like the fentanyl coming from China. I f we spent a tenth of what we did for twenty years in A-stan we'd be much safer and secure if we secured OUR FUCKING border.
Sorry for the rant/shout but as a Texan it really pisses me off.
 
For the first part. I don't give a rats ass as for either side. I understand why Putin is trying to protect his border and push back on NATO to abide by the agreement. If he fucks up the corruption between the USA govt and Ukraine in doing so. I give him a thumbs up. Will that corruption ever be exposed. Nope!!

-On the one hand we hate the corrupt 'Nazi' Biden pals of Ukraine.

-On the other one must remember that when all is said and done, Pootin is a fucking communist

And BTW, Dern Yankee, its too fucking cold in Ukraine.
For the last part.
Summer vacation rentals!!
A farm to be somewhat self sufficient with premium cuts of meat and veggies. Ocean front for premium rental value.
 
I'll buy the plane tickets if he's got the balls.

If I were to go it'd be for the other side. And I want a couple acres of farm land and a beach front place.
agreed. i’d help russia for half.
You know and I know that Ukraine.gov has been crooked as Hell and potato head and his son are complicit in much of it. But the Russians piss me off and it looks like, so far, the Ukrainians are giving them a pretty bloody nose. We just need to stand back.
the ukraine is exactly where they are, because they were too eager to let others do the heavy lifting for them. and, because the cocksuckers went for the “easy money” with the corrupt cocksuckers running the show. well, how easy is that “easy money” now, motherfuckers?
Biden is/was an illegitimately installed puppet.
that’s a big no shitter!
 
I think what we have here is: Commies vs New World Order. NWO is a threat to freedom and communism. Eventually NWO would corrupt China and Russia as they have the US. We were easy pickings due to our political “freedoms” we have. Them fuckers are deeply rooted here!
 
Our government is sucking Chinese dick, giving them money, funding thier bioweapon labs, and sleeping with thier spies. Not sure why Putin is the baddie here.
Don't you think that's also happening in the Ukraine? How many biolabs are over there that are at risk of Putin grabbing and utilizing along with giving any info they find to China?
 
Don't say 'we'. Trump told Putin he'd turn Moscow into a glass factory if he moved on Ukraine. He wasn't lying and Putin knew it.
This is the exact strategy that President Eisenhower used. Whenever he felt that Russia or Red China was going to start a proxy war, he would lay it on the line. “Go Ahead, Make My DAY” was not originally a line from a movie.

Eisenhower was very much against getting our nation into a smaller, expensive war that might also lead to a major World WAR. Yes he aided some of the nations in war but basically he knew war and did his best to avoid it from a position of strength.

Then President Kennedy came in with his hawkish ideas trying to be the playground bully starting fights with any and everybody that threatened someone else and fucked it all up.

Eisenhower was no Chamberlain or biden
 
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The How's and Why's:


"How did we get to a place where Russia—believing its back is against a wall and the United States, by moving NATO ever closer to Russia’s borders, put it there—reached a point where it chose war with Ukraine rather than accept the fate and future it believed the West had in store for Mother Russia?

Consider: Between 1989 and 1991, Mikhail Gorbachev let the Berlin Wall be pulled down, Germany be reunited, and all the “captive nations” of Eastern Europe go free.

Having collapsed the Soviet empire, Gorbachev allowed the Soviet Union to dissolve itself into 15 independent nations. Communism was allowed to expire as the ruling ideology of Russia, the land where Leninism and Bolshevism first took root in 1917.

Gorbachev called off the Cold War in Europe by removing all of the causes on Moscow’s side of the historic divide.

Putin, a former KGB colonel, came to power in 1999 after the disastrous, decade-long rule of Boris Yeltsin, who ran Russia into the ground.

In that year, 1999, Putin watched as America conducted a 78-day bombing campaign on Serbia, the Balkan nation that had historically been a protectorate of Mother Russia.

That same year, three former Warsaw Pact nations—the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland—were brought into NATO.

The question was fairly asked: Against whom were these countries to be protected by U.S. arms and the NATO alliance?

The question seemed to be answered fully in 2004, when Slovenia, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, and Bulgaria were admitted into NATO, a grouping that included three former republics of the USSR itself, as well as three more former Warsaw Pact nations.

Then, in 2008, came the Bucharest declaration that put Georgia and Ukraine, both bordering Russia, on a path to NATO membership.

Georgia, that same year, attacked its seceded province of South Ossetia, where Russian troops were acting as peacekeepers, killing some....."
 
If Ukraine had bought every household a Tikka CTR topped with a Razor Gen 2, a couple weeks on learning how to shoot decent, a few cases of some match grade ammo instead of funding Potato Head Jr's coke and hooker party's I believe they would have a real good chance at saving their country without help from anyone.
Or an Athlon Ares BTR. Good to 600m.
 
If Ukraine had bought every household a Tikka CTR topped with a Razor Gen 2, a couple weeks on learning how to shoot decent, a few cases of some match grade ammo instead of funding Potato Head Jr's coke and hooker party's I believe they would have a real good chance at saving their country without help from anyone.
iu
 
The How's and Why's:


"How did we get to a place where Russia—believing its back is against a wall and the United States, by moving NATO ever closer to Russia’s borders, put it there—reached a point where it chose war with Ukraine rather than accept the fate and future it believed the West had in store for Mother Russia?

Consider: Between 1989 and 1991, Mikhail Gorbachev let the Berlin Wall be pulled down, Germany be reunited, and all the “captive nations” of Eastern Europe go free.

Having collapsed the Soviet empire, Gorbachev allowed the Soviet Union to dissolve itself into 15 independent nations. Communism was allowed to expire as the ruling ideology of Russia, the land where Leninism and Bolshevism first took root in 1917.

Gorbachev called off the Cold War in Europe by removing all of the causes on Moscow’s side of the historic divide.

Putin, a former KGB colonel, came to power in 1999 after the disastrous, decade-long rule of Boris Yeltsin, who ran Russia into the ground.

In that year, 1999, Putin watched as America conducted a 78-day bombing campaign on Serbia, the Balkan nation that had historically been a protectorate of Mother Russia.

That same year, three former Warsaw Pact nations—the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland—were brought into NATO.

The question was fairly asked: Against whom were these countries to be protected by U.S. arms and the NATO alliance?

The question seemed to be answered fully in 2004, when Slovenia, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, and Bulgaria were admitted into NATO, a grouping that included three former republics of the USSR itself, as well as three more former Warsaw Pact nations.

Then, in 2008, came the Bucharest declaration that put Georgia and Ukraine, both bordering Russia, on a path to NATO membership.

Georgia, that same year, attacked its seceded province of South Ossetia, where Russian troops were acting as peacekeepers, killing some....."
Well there is so much wrong with this where to start?

Russia was a criminal state under the Soviets who were basically gangsters. They ran the country down themselves. When Russia fell apart it was a rotting corpse and it rotted. The Russian people started putting the country back together and Putin took over. He killed or imprisoned anyone who opposed him and nationalized key industries and enriched himself and his buddies.

Serbia invaded the Muslim sub states of Yugoslavia and then committed atrocities against the civilians. It was NATO that stopped Serbia then the Croat military that defeated the Serbians on the ground.

Russia has two choices. Be run by criminals who take the wealth and squelch real economic growth or join the world in free trade and political freedom. Putin cloaks himself in Russian nationalism and The Church. But he is not pro Russian nor Christian. His actions against his own people show that.
 
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Well there is so much wrong with this where to start?

Russia was a criminal state under the Soviets who were basically gangsters. They ran the country down themselves. When Russia fell apart it was a rotting corpse and it rotted. The Russian people started putting the country back together and Putin took over. He killed or imprisoned anyone who opposed him and nationalized key industries and enriched himself and his buddies.

Serbia invaded the Muslim sub states of Yugoslavia and then committed atrocities against the civilians. It was NATO that stopped Serbia then the Croat military that defeated the Serbians on the ground.

Russia has two choices. Be run by criminals who take the wealth and squelch real economic growth or join the world in free trade and political freedom. Putin cloaks himself in Russian nationalism and The Church. But he is not pro Russian nor Christian. His actions against his own people show that.
say no to drugs.

who am I going to believe, Pat Buchanan who was exiled by the neocons, or some CCN watcher named "old loser".
 
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This is the exact strategy that President Eisenhower used. Whenever he felt that Russia or Red China was going to start a proxy war, he would lay it on the line. “Go Ahead, Make My DAY” was not originally a line from a movie.

Eisenhower was very much against getting our nation into a smaller, expensive war that might also lead to a major World WAR. Yes he aided some of the nations in war but basically he knew war and did his best to avoid it from a position of strength.

Then President Kennedy came in with his hawkish ideas trying to be the playground bully starting fights with any and everybody that threatened someone else and fucked it all up.

Eisenhower was no Chamberlain or biden
He focused on economic growth and effective military as well as better intelligence.
 
Un verified.

Ukraine says it has inflicted one of Russia's heaviest ever day ...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-10550799



1 day ago — It comes as new totals by Kyiv's defence ministry put President Vladimir Putin's losses at 2,800 troops, 80 tanks, 516 armoured vehicles, 10

Lots of video of Russian convoys shot to hell. I saw engineering units, command posts, tanks, bmps, logistics units. Looks like Ukraine command and control,CAS, and ground units are intact and fighting effectively.
 
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Un verified.

Ukraine says it has inflicted one of Russia's heaviest ever day ...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-10550799



1 day ago — It comes as new totals by Kyiv's defence ministry put President Vladimir Putin's losses at 2,800 troops, 80 tanks, 516 armoured vehicles, 10
Lets see how it plays out if these cats show up.


But it begs a question: why cant the mighty Russia handle their own shit?
 
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Ok then why ISN'T Ukraine a member of NATO?
The internet. It's truly your friend. They have been denied entry or even backing from other NATO countries. It is also very apparent that some of the countries that were denying them support were also screwing them over royally behind the scenes and using the Ukraine for their own purposes.
 
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The internet. It's truly your friend. They have been denied entry or even backing from other NATO countries. It is also very apparent that some of the countries that were denying them support were also screwing them over royally behind the scenes and using the Ukraine for their own purposes.
Maybe because its corrupt government that would rather withdraw itself then meet the most basic requirements.

You think NATO doesn't want the house next door to Russia? But they want every other house on the block?

Maybe do a little research on exactly why it's not NATO.

They want to be a rouge nation who plays by their own rules. A little mini Russia. Well guess what now you get to be part of big russia.
 
Maybe because its corrupt government that would rather withdraw itself then meet the most basic requirements.

You think NATO doesn't want the house next door to Russia? But they want every other house on the block?

Maybe do a little research on exactly why it's not NATO.

They want to be a rouge nation who plays by their own rules. A little mini Russia. Well guess what now you get to be part of big russia.
Holy shit. You first claim that is the Ukraine that doesn’t want to be in NATO, I give you the high level reasons that are totally verifiable and you tell me to go do research?

They want to be a rogue nation? No.

Ok I want to be polite about this. What you are saying is incorrect. Not only have they been attempting to get into NATO for years they have also been trying to conform to the anti-corruption requirements that have been given to them to become a member. And they have been doing this while the US had biolabs running in their country and US politicians laundering money through their nation. So you have a country that is trying to get rid of corruption while one of the major countries of NATO that is not supporting their membership is enabling corruption in the Ukraine for its own purposes. And then telling the Ukraine that they are still too corrupt.

The Ukraine is many things but it is not a rogue country.
 
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Here, I did the work for you. The first one is the ringing endorsement for Ukraine to fix the corruption by Biden. Now, who’s son was on the Board of Burisma? Who got a prosecutor fired for looking into the corruption that Biden says Zelensky needs to fix? It’s was Joe himself. See how this works? All of this is going on while Nodstream2 is being built and the EU doesn’t want their nat gas fucked with.

Not trying to be an ass. You are buying into the wrong narrative. The Ukraine has no friends - it has relationships with other countries that are abusing the relationship for their own profit motives.



 
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Holy shit. You first claim that is the Ukraine that doesn’t want to be in NATO, I give you the high level reasons that are totally verifiable and you tell me to go do research?

They want to be a rogue nation? No.

Ok I want to be polite about this. What you are saying is incorrect. Not only have they been attempting to get into NATO for years they have also been trying to confirm to the anti-corruption requirements that have been given to them to become a member. And they have been doing this while the US had biolabs running in their country and US politicians laundering money through their nation. So you have a country that is trying to get rid of corruption while one of the major countries of NATO that is not supporting their membership is enabling corruption in the Ukraine for its own purposes. And then telling the Ukraine that they are still to corrupt.

The Ukraine is many things but it is not a rogue country.
Makes perfect sense.
 
Holy shit. You first claim that is the Ukraine that doesn’t want to be in NATO, I give you the high level reasons that are totally verifiable and you tell me to go do research?

They want to be a rogue nation? No.

Ok I want to be polite about this. What you are saying is incorrect. Not only have they been attempting to get into NATO for years they have also been trying to conform to the anti-corruption requirements that have been given to them to become a member. And they have been doing this while the US had biolabs running in their country and US politicians laundering money through their nation. So you have a country that is trying to get rid of corruption while one of the major countries of NATO that is not supporting their membership is enabling corruption in the Ukraine for its own purposes. And then telling the Ukraine that they are still too corrupt.

The Ukraine is many things but it is not a rogue country.
In my opinion the purpose of NATO is to avoid war with Russia. Letting Ukraine into NATO would cause war with Russia, thus should never be considered.
 
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I would call upon Poland, Czech Republic, Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, Finland: send in troops NOW, or you will be 'annexed' next...Pootin' is the only Neo Nazi in this conflict. The world CANNOT, MUST NOT, give into him. Stop Russia now, or cum-unist world dominion, WW lll or both is a very real possibility.

Some of you Special Force members...is it possible to join up with any of you if you are planning to go there to fight? I was 13 when the Cuban Missile Crisis was unfolding. America was scared to death. NOTHING is worth being thrust into that paralyzing fear, not even the threat of nukes. "If one of us is captive, all of us are captive."

Think what havoc 1,000 force recon snipers could unleash...
 
I would call upon Poland, Czech Republic, Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, Finland: send in troops NOW, or you will be 'annexed' next...Pootin' is the only Neo Nazi in this conflict. The world CANNOT, MUST NOT, give into him. Stop Russia now, or cum-unist world dominion, WW lll or both is a very real possibility.

Some of you Special Force members...is it possible to join up with any of you if you are planning to go there to fight? I was 13 when the Cuban Missile Crisis was unfolding. America was scared to death. NOTHING is worth being thrust into that paralyzing fear, not even the threat of nukes. "If one of us is captive, all of us are captive."

Think what havoc 1,000 force recon snipers could unleash...
I'm sure the Azov Battalion is still accepting foreign volunteers and you sound like just the kind of ideologically 'sound' person they'd be looking for. Hurry before the cumunist neonazi pootin annexes the rest of the world.

the FBI may or may not be waiting for you when you return.
iu



*disclaimer: this is sarcasm. only an idiot would consider doing this.
 
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I would call upon Poland, Czech Republic, Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, Finland: send in troops NOW, or you will be 'annexed' next...Pootin' is the only Neo Nazi in this conflict. The world CANNOT, MUST NOT, give into him. Stop Russia now, or cum-unist world dominion, WW lll or both is a very real possibility.

Some of you Special Force members...is it possible to join up with any of you if you are planning to go there to fight? I was 13 when the Cuban Missile Crisis was unfolding. America was scared to death. NOTHING is worth being thrust into that paralyzing fear, not even the threat of nukes. "If one of us is captive, all of us are captive."

Think what havoc 1,000 force recon snipers could unleash...
You were 13 in 1962? So you are like 73 now?

LOL.
 
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there you go, @beetroot. put your balls in a wheel barrow and take them to town. or stfu.

if there is a cause i believe in, and they put that out there, i’d go. i believe this aint our/my fight. so true to my code that i live by, i am not advising you to do anything i wouldnt do. put up or shut up. or are you a flapping cunt?
Which part of sending air support and not ground troops did you not understand?
 
there you go, @beetroot. put your balls in a wheel barrow and take them to town. or stfu.

if there is a cause i believe in, and they put that out there, i’d go. i believe this aint our/my fight. so true to my code that i live by, i am not advising you to do anything i wouldnt do. put up or shut up. or are you a flapping cunt?
Is that why you and all your mates are heading down to the southern border to protect the USA, or a you just a flapping cunt too?

Twat.
 
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