Know Your Enemy

[Fig]

Longshot231-

Comparing Antifa to the KKK & Neo Nazis is like comparing apples to oranges.

You’re right, they hate different things. Would Nazis be less evil if the hated, say, the Irish? They’re extremists who brand people with lables and then feel justified (nay righteous) using violence on their “enemies”.

It’s only extremist, leftists like you who believe there is “good” hatred. Figure the odds you’ll ever examine your own views and morality beyond the groupthink you favor.

 

[flyer]

Antifa is a bunch of idiots who think they are tough because they live coddled in sanctuary City shit holes indoctrinated with identity politics blaming white males for all of societies ills (even though many of them are white males).

The way you can tell they are cowards is the hiding behind masks, hitting people with clubs but only targeting people who have been disarmed by the police.

The way you can tell that they are weak is that they regularly lose those battles unless they attack people who won't fight back.

How should we fight back against them? Be inclusive. Put your kids in private schools that have decent teachers. Vote for broken window type policing.

The first thing is that despite evidence to the contrary, antifa says we are all racist. They are wrong, show it. A lot of antifa are public school teachers. Don't subject your kids to their crap. I can understand and accept the ramifications of punching an antifa in the face, a school kid could ruin their life standing up for themself. Third, antifa are a lot of petty criminals and occupy Wall Street goons. If your local police will enforce vagrancy laws, Jay walking and public urination laws, they could probably sweep up 80% of them and the other 20% will be less likely to cause trouble when 80% of their friends were deported or spend their weekends cleaning up the streets on a road crew serving public service sentences.

Hopefully our government will finally start leaning on sanctuary cities and make the liberal elite live in the conditions they have created. If we can get school choice laws passed, the schools with shitty teachers will be de-funded and won't have their horrible influence any more.

The biggest thing about antifa is that they have nothing to lose because they have nothing. If you have something to lose, don't fall in their trap. But if you are retirement age with your assets properly sheltered and up to date on your vaccination, go ahead and punch an antifa in the face.

 

[Erno86]

What we sadly have here in America today...is a wave of right wing blame shifting. "Fascism and socialism are not the same sides of a different coin.

The myth of "Cultural Marxism" - (meaning "Marxism" translated from economic into cultural terms), is now the grand unifying narrative for the hard, fascist & Neo-Nazi right. It does the same work as did the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" forgery did, a century ago, to inspire Hitler & his Nazis.

"Cultural Marxism" narrative may well help fuel the increase in white nationalist terror. It also aims to destroy society, to pit every different group against each other, and thus bring down the whole noble edifice of America --- and beyond it...the Christian West.

The mass killers now are taking clues from Trump, Fox News and their own message boards.

The federal government is controlled by a president ideologically closest to the Patriot militias and the White Nationalists. Trump has been dismantling the intelligence elements that would monitor the White Nationalists. He has demonstrated his complete willingness to delegitimize the FBI, CIA and to a lesser extent DHS.

We are not seeing "leaderless resistance" but something considerable more dangerous, "scripted violence" dictated from above with just enough "plausible deniability".

 

[Longshot231]

What we sadly have here in America today...is a wave of right wing blame shifting. "Fascism and socialism are not the same sides of a different coin.

The myth of "Cultural Marxism" - (meaning "Marxism" translated from economic into cultural terms), is now the grand unifying narrative for the hard, fascist & Neo-Nazi right. It does the same work as did the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" forgery did, a century ago, to inspire Hitler & his Nazis.

"Cultural Marxism" narrative may well help fuel the increase in white nationalist terror. It also aims to destroy society, to pit every different group against each other, and thus bring down the whole noble edifice of America --- and beyond it...the Christian West.

The mass killers now are taking clues from Trump, Fox News and their own message boards.

The federal government is controlled by a president ideologically closest to the Patriot militias and the White Nationalists. Trump has been dismantling the intelligence elements that would monitor the White Nationalists. He has demonstrated his complete willingness to delegitimize the FBI, CIA and to a lesser extent DHS.

We are not seeing "leaderless resistance" but something considerable more dangerous, "scripted violence" dictated from above with just enough "plausible deniability".

You sound like a leftist, socialist ANTIFA.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Socialism, Marxism, Nazism, Statism, Racial Suppremists, are all fellow travelers of the Democrat party, the party of slavery, the party of Jim Crow, the Party of the KKK.

Only one side has been and is violent and that is the Democrat/Marxist. Socialist side,,, I find it ironic that you run from your white nationalist past and present,,, you are of the party of racists, evil goddam racists no matter the color. Nazis used the democrat party platform as their platform..

The CIA, THe FBI and the other Fed agencies destroyed their own credibility by attempting a coup.

Name one racial nationalist that doesn't espouse Marxist and democrat party platform planks.

You are part of a vile evil and violent Marxist movement that will be dealt with soon.

I am glad your anti semetic actions are being put on full display,, the world knows who you all are and the good peopel of our country know who you are...

What we sadly have here in America today...is a wave of right wing blame shifting. "Fascism and socialism are not the same sides of a different coin.

The myth of "Cultural Marxism" - (meaning "Marxism" translated from economic into cultural terms), is now the grand unifying narrative for the hard, fascist & Neo-Nazi right. It does the same work as did the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" forgery did, a century ago, to inspire Hitler & his Nazis.

"Cultural Marxism" narrative may well help fuel the increase in white nationalist terror. It also aims to destroy society, to pit every different group against each other, and thus bring down the whole noble edifice of America --- and beyond it...the Christian West.

The mass killers now are taking clues from Trump, Fox News and their own message boards.

The federal government is controlled by a president ideologically closest to the Patriot militias and the White Nationalists. Trump has been dismantling the intelligence elements that would monitor the White Nationalists. He has demonstrated his complete willingness to delegitimize the FBI, CIA and to a lesser extent DHS.

We are not seeing "leaderless resistance" but something considerable more dangerous, "scripted violence" dictated from above with just enough "plausible deniability".

 

[Rthur]

What we sadly have here in America today...is a wave of right wing blame shifting. "Fascism and socialism are not the same sides of a different coin.

The myth of "Cultural Marxism" - (meaning "Marxism" translated from economic into cultural terms), is now the grand unifying narrative for the hard, fascist & Neo-Nazi right. It does the same work as did the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" forgery did, a century ago, to inspire Hitler & his Nazis.

"Cultural Marxism" narrative may well help fuel the increase in white nationalist terror. It also aims to destroy society, to pit every different group against each other, and thus bring down the whole noble edifice of America --- and beyond it...the Christian West.

The mass killers now are taking clues from Trump, Fox News and their own message boards.

The federal government is controlled by a president ideologically closest to the Patriot militias and the White Nationalists. Trump has been dismantling the intelligence elements that would monitor the White Nationalists. He has demonstrated his complete willingness to delegitimize the FBI, CIA and to a lesser extent DHS.

We are not seeing "leaderless resistance" but something considerable more dangerous, "scripted violence" dictated from above with just enough "plausible deniability".

What you've just desribed is identity politics.
I'm sure most on here know who are the praticioners of said.

R

 

[Flyingbullseye]

What we sadly have here in America today...is a wave of right wing blame shifting. "Fascism and socialism are not the same sides of a different coin.

The myth of "Cultural Marxism" - (meaning "Marxism" translated from economic into cultural terms), is now the grand unifying narrative for the hard, fascist & Neo-Nazi right. It does the same work as did the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" forgery did, a century ago, to inspire Hitler & his Nazis.

"Cultural Marxism" narrative may well help fuel the increase in white nationalist terror. It also aims to destroy society, to pit every different group against each other, and thus bring down the whole noble edifice of America --- and beyond it...the Christian West.

The mass killers now are taking clues from Trump, Fox News and their own message boards.

The federal government is controlled by a president ideologically closest to the Patriot militias and the White Nationalists. Trump has been dismantling the intelligence elements that would monitor the White Nationalists. He has demonstrated his complete willingness to delegitimize the FBI, CIA and to a lesser extent DHS.

We are not seeing "leaderless resistance" but something considerable more dangerous, "scripted violence" dictated from above with just enough "plausible deniability".

Translation

 

[DuneBoer]

Things are not even close to getting serious. Go wear your mask, wave your little flag and strut around with your rifle and act tough. No one has gotten fed up on either side to start taking care of business. It's all for show at this point. Now when people on either side start showing up missing, have ND's in the front seat of their Prius taking off the top of their heads, I'll start to pay attention. When the skullduggery starts then we are on our way. Otherwise, pfft.

 

[footsteps]

The next few years could be the start..... The left is getting so out of control, out-of touch with the fundamental foundation our country was built on something is going to ignite the next civil war. It's just a matter of time, I think if they get the WH and both the House, Senate they will go ape shit loony left.... AOC can run in 2024....... Tic toc ?.

 

[j-huskey]

To say comparing antifa to kkk and neo nazis is apples to oranges, is ignorance of history and reality.

each started with a movement, each had hidden agenda and a period of masked hiding, each took to the streets, and each pushed their propaganda to their agenda, and each grew in measured levels.

antifa has simply not grown yet to the levels of kkk and nn.... they 'are' however growing there in the same manner as the other two.

their agendas are the same. Violence against a perceived "enemy", and the road to power by their kind.

Same but different but same.

Lifes tough, tougher when stupid, and even tougher when otherwise intelligent people are blinded by ignorance, and like 1930's loyal Soviet citizens, bitch, whine, piss, and moan about being done wrong, on their way to the camps... "journeying into the whirlwind",

Perchance reading Eugenia Ginsberg would enlighten those able to open their minds. Ymmv

 

[Blue Sky Country]

To say comparing antifa to kkk and neo nazis is apples to oranges, is ignorance of history and reality.

each started with a movement, each had hidden agenda and a period of masked hiding, each took to the streets, and each pushed their propaganda to their agenda, and each grew in measured levels.

antifa has simply not grown yet to the levels of kkk and nn.... they 'are' however growing there in the same manner as the other two.

their agendas are the same. Violence against a perceived "enemy", and the road to power by their kind.

Same but different but same.

Lifes tough, tougher when stupid, and even tougher when otherwise intelligent people are blinded by ignorance, and like 1930's loyal Soviet citizens, bitch, whine, piss, and moan about being done wrong, on their way to the camps... "journeying into the whirlwind",

Perchance reading Eugenia Ginsberg would enlighten those able to open their minds. Ymmv

Fire or ice. Boiling hot or freezing cold. Either way will kill ya'.

In the case of the 1930's Soviets, if for every person disappeared into camps, a Party organizer, local busybody, or enforcer gets found each morning with his own intestines being used to decorate the interior of his house, the nonsense would have stopped very quickly.

 

[Fig]

We totally, unconditionally, and with finality, fifty years ago, rejected white supremacy and all the bullshit attached to it. KKK MFers served in the Democrat Party in the 21st century. You’re so out of touch with reality it’s comical. You openly preach racism in public as a matter of policy.

 

[Erno86]

We totally, unconditionally, and with finality, fifty years ago, rejected white supremacy and all the bullshit attached to it. KKK MFers served in the Democrat Party in the 21st century. You’re so out of touch with reality it’s comical. You openly preach racism in public as a matter of policy.

I beg to differ...

 

[flyer]

The left clearly isn't concerned with making our country and our citizens prosperous.

They are merely concerned with grabbing power and they want to do it by promoting class separation and then pitting the poor against the rich because the rich don't want to pay the full share including their well fare, drug habit and sex change operation.

The rich are not wrong to tell poor people to fuck off when they are already paying the lion's share of taxes.

Conservatives are just realists who want to find solutions that work, not spend us in to crippling debt that will screw our children's future and our retirement plans at the same time.

 

[Fig]

 

[Erno86]

Here ya go...enjoy

 

[ArmyJerry]

they are coming for you emo boy

 

[flyer]

It's very convenient that the leftists are making themselves so visible.

It will make it easy to round them up later.

 

[Fig]

Probably the #1 Democrat piece of shit

 

[ArmyJerry]

DJT is building the camps right now, he says he is doing it for the illegals but we really know what its for.........

It's very convenient that the leftists are making themselves so visible.

It will make it easy to round them up later.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Things are not even close to getting serious. Go wear your mask, wave your little flag and strut around with your rifle and act tough. No one has gotten fed up on either side to start taking care of business. It's all for show at this point.

Yes and no.
The Antifa goons are kind of following the playbook from the rise of the National Socialists.
When they still were small and didn't have power, the National Socalists used to rally and wave their flags and chant, while also backed up by club wielding goons who's orders were to intimidate, beat, harm and send to the hospital those that oppose them, but NOT kill them. Killing people would have brought the law down on them a bit too quickly, but just like in this country, they can get away with beating up people, intimidating folks and bloodying up their enemies and the law does nothing.

Then once they think they have enough power and pull, the killings start.

 

[ArmyJerry]

the people getting beat up need to pull a gun and shoot them dead, until they do that I view it as a Darwinian exercise in weeding out the weak by the weak minded.

 

[DuneBoer]

the people getting beat up need to pull a gun and shoot them dead, until they do that I view it as a Darwinian exercise in weeding out the weak by the weak minded.

Thats what I'm talking about. They just have not "encountered" the right people.

 

[Fig]

Well they only have their riots in inner cities where the local gov’s leadership is as fucked in the head as they are. They’d last about five minutes in the countryside. They would cross some farmer’s 13 y/o daughter and she would end up slaughtering the lot of them.

 

[Crang]

Antifa was training in Syria for a spell. I had watched a documentary on Netlfix some time back following regular joes from Europe (non military) who had volunteered to go fight Isis. When I looked up the individuals after it became clear Syria was the cause de jure of the international communists and they were definitely fighting and dying there. That part had been omitted from the film. Wish I could remember the name of it. They seemed like a bunch of stoners. Anyway- dug this up with some more info-

Normalcy Bias, Rojava, AntiFa, and the Bigger Picture

It’s easy for many to dismiss AntiFa as nothing more than street thugs; little organization, little experience, little threat to anyone or anything other than at public demonstrations. After …

www.americanpartisan.org

And regarding the esteemed Robert Byrd- the longest serving Senator in history. He held the position of Exalted Cyclops in the KKK. I seem to be the only person that noticed- during the Obama inauguration the cameras were showing him at the ceremony and he fell over having seizures or a conniption fit. They quickly cut away and it was never mentioned anywhere. I looked for days. I fell on the floor laughing so hard at the old fucknut.

 

[Fig]

PM me. I will send you a copy of this book.
Liberal Fascism
I think you are just generally ignorant about the first American Progressive movement, how it's eugenics and political theory inspired the Germans, and how they simply took it to the next level (not that progressives weren't already sterilizing undesirables in America). The early Nazis openly lamented that Germany was not as progressive as parts of the USA. Why do you think Lindberg, and a bunch of other prominent Americans were early Nazis? It was because it was a progressive movement.

I think it's simply because you don't know any history that you have such a manufactured and skewed perspective on current events and reality. With no historical perspective at all you just absorb what you're told and take it as fact. You are a product of removing History and replacing it with Social Studies.

 

[Erno86]

"Liberal fascism"??? --- Sounds like an exercise in smoke and mirrors in my book....along with some fuzzy math thrown in.

 

[FS1]

"Liberal fascism"??? --- Sounds like a lot of smoke and mirrors in my book....with some fuzzy math thrown in.

Actually The Dems sound a lot like brownshirts. Agree or else. You are either an instigator or a fool. Maybe both.

 

[Erno86]

Actually The Dems sound a lot like brownshirts. Agree or else. You are either an instigator or a fool. Maybe both.

Get real...dude!!!

 

[flyer]

Have you ever heard "religion is the opiate of the masses"?

The leftists cut out the middle man and went for opiates to get the druggie vote.

What have they got you hooked on?

 

[Threadcutter308]

And regarding the esteemed Robert Byrd- the longest serving Senator in history. He held the position of Exalted Cyclops in the KKK. I seem to be the only person that noticed- during the Obama inauguration the cameras were showing him at the ceremony and he fell over having seizures or a conniption fit. They quickly cut away and it was never mentioned anywhere. I looked for days. I fell on the floor laughing so hard at the old fucknut.

And, as an old, white, racist, misogynist, xenophobe, nazi, fascist, conservative.........Oh, wait.

 

[Rthur]

"Liberal fascism"??? --- Sounds like an exercise in smoke and mirrors in my book....along with some fuzzy math thrown in.

You are confused by labels.
Actions speak louder than words/labels.

R

 

[Snuby642]

Are we going to sit here and listen to this antifa dribble here on S H ?

Where is ban cat when it's really needed?

 

[FS1]

Pity him/her don't ban him/her it would make him/her's day. Likely taking a college course to see who can get banned for being an idiot on a firearms site. Gets extra credit for getting others banned with him/her.

 

[Erno86]

Are we going to sit here and listen to this antifa dribble here on S H ?

Where is ban cat when it's really needed?

I thought everybody here thinks that I'm a nice guy...a good guy.

 

[ArmyJerry]

your (you're) a douche, a gullible evil baby killing douche, but you get to be heard too. Your kind lives only because the rule of law is still respected. You should be donating donuts to the local road pirates every day, they are what keep your kind above ground.

I thought everybody here thinks that I'm a nice guy...a good guy.

 

[flyer]

It's hard to think a person with shit politics would be anything but an asshole in person.

The whole leftist mentality is that big brother should be able to tell us what to think, how to live and what we can't do.

Classical liberals, libertarians and small government conservatives want to give us freedom and let us figure it out.

Quit trying to claim antifa is anything but a bunch of goons that would put us in a gulag if they could and want old school Soviet style communism in the USA.

The only reason for that is we are rich and they want to redistribute our wealth.

 

[Threadcutter308]

I thought everybody here thinks that I'm a nice guy...a good guy.

No......you grossly underestimate the individual and collective intelligence here...........At best, you are viewed as a liberal "useless eater". At worst, you are a pawn that will be disposed of by the communist leadership that you worship, once you have outlived your usefulness to them. When Soro's checks stop showing up in the mail, don't be surprised by a knock on your door at 2:00 AM some "random" night. You will likely never be heard from again. It is not us that you should worry about. We actually embrace and work to protect your free speech, no matter how asinine it is.

Let me ask you a very, very simple question......

Do you recognize any of the transgressions as being illegal and immoral on the part of Hillary and Bill Clinton, John Podesta, Jeffrey Epstein, Robert Menendez, et al, etc, in regards to, as an example, the murder of Seth Rich, Vince Foster and the over 55 victims (allegedly) at the hands of the Clintons ?

I won't speak for anyone else here, but until you recognize, accept and publicly acknowledge that they are vile and evil human beings, I cannot take anything you say seriously. Let me ask you this; It's obvious that you hate DJT. I get it. But, has he ever had anyone murdered ? Can/will you provide proof ?

Please, present some facts. And, do us a favor. Provide opinions and facts from someone/something other than MSM shills. Come clean about the Clintons. Until that happens, you are nothing but another laughing stock in a very long line of liberal laughing stocks that have come (and gone) here.

Upon reflection of the many other shills that have come before you with similar opinions as yours, I doubt very much that you even have the balls to respond. None of your prior fellow travelers have. I see no reason to believe you are any different. In fact, I'm not so sure you aren't just the same person as in the past, "re-treading" your username in order to spew the same old bullshit over and over.

Waiting for your answer.......(but, not for long, I have weeds to mow)

 

[Soulezoo]

Longshot231-

Comparing Antifa to the KKK & Neo Nazis is like comparing apples to oranges.

Comparing Erno to intelligent life is like comparing leftover abortion to Einstein.

 

[FS1]

I thought everybody here thinks that I'm a nice guy...a good guy.

I'm not even sure you are a guy.

 

[FleetDaddy]

Well I have watched some of these left Wingnuts for years. Most of these kids are hell on a computer with a joystick. It’s when it involves burning gunpowder and hot brass these Mall ninjas will lock themselves in moms basement in an hurry and never be heard from again In that video they killed a lot of dirt. JMHO.

 

[Dewey7271]

@Erno86
Woody Guthrie? Really?
One of the earlier far left artists. His son also. Socialist songs at the back end of the depression. Woody was an early SJW. A shame also as his music showed talent.

By the way, there is no greater use of identity politics than the democrat party.
Every thing you accused the right of in your post is exactly what the democrat party is doing. Nice spin attempt.

And what is it with your presidential candidates?
I guess since the economy, good or bad, sways votes that they have decided to stop the market rally with their insane healthcare for all which got the health segment of the market walloped over the past three or four months. Or is it the free shit army? Free college (which other than the ticket for the been there done that on the resume)is proving fairly useless in true world work value? Green new deal? Big fan of that are you? Do away with those evil fossil fuels? Between that and health related segments of the markets the dems are trying to kill 30-40 percent of the economy. Guess that’d be ok as crashing the economy would move the vote democratic? Hey, working great in Venezuela isn’t it?
Your party is populated by economic idiots.

I also am guessing from your handle that 86 is your birth year. A millennial. With a few notable exceptions, many of whom are members here, a generation searching for a clue. I base that on a 4 to 5 year period where I hired a shade over 80 millennials for my career path. Know how many made it? 0. Granted small sampling but soured me nonetheless. By the way they received more training and support than any given previous groups also. More money also. Go figure.

I find it impossible to come to any of your conclusions when using logic, economics and common sense. Only when removing those and substituting only emotion would it be possible to reach those conclusions. Historically in the economic environment emotions are always wrong in the decision making matrix.

 

[Erno86]

Dewey -

I'm a war baby from 1951...and my handle --- 86 --- means "get the fuck out".

 

[Erno86]

your (you're) a douche, a gullible evil baby killing douche, but you get to be heard too. Your kind lives only because the rule of law is still respected. You should be donating donuts to the local road pirates every day, they are what keep your kind above ground.

I must admit that you're good at name calling...but that's just about it.

 

[Longshot231]

I must admit that you're good at name calling...but that's just about it.

Does the shoe fit? Besides, your side loves to label people by calling them names. Your accusation stretches the bounds of credulity and demonstrates the typical leftist's hypocritical attitude.

It also gave me a good laugh. Thanks for the humor.

 

[FS1]

Erno did you go to Canada in 1969?

 

[cornhusker86]

Theses little Antifa bastards are the product of communist indoctrination through public " education ". They are a pale imitation of their Bolshevik hero's. In time they will grow bolder. When Trump wins in 2020, the little shits will lose their minds. They will look to comrad erno for leadership.

 

[Erno86]

Erno did you go to Canada in 1969?

No...I don't think that I would have the guts to do that at the time --- though the thought did cross my mind. I was a Vietnam war protester in college...so I had two years of college draft deferments. Then when Nixon's draft lottery came out...I missed being drafted by six numbers. Though I have always regretted myself for not serving in the military.

 

[Longshot231]

Group photos of Erno86 and his friends at a popular 60's rock concert...

 

[Erno86]

Now that I remember --- It was in 1969 or 70...when I and a few of my friends went to the Strawberry Fields 3 day Rock Festival, about 20 miles west of Toronto, Canada.

I was shocked to see one of the Vietnam war vets that I met up there, with one of his legs blown off during his tour in Vietnam.

While I was participating in one of the anti-Vietnam war protest marches in Washington D.C. --- I witnessed a number of Vietnam War vets throw their war medals over the fence and onto the White House Lawn.