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Loads for .260 /.243/ 6.5x47/6.5 Creedmoor

Re: Loads for 6.5x47 Lapua

6.5x47L
22" Rock 1:8
Rem 700 SA

2.690 OAL
1.84 case length
123 gr Lapua Scenar
CCI br #4
42.0 RL17
FPS=? no chrono

39.5 accuracy good
40.0 acc. good
40.5 acc. gets worse
41.0 acc. same as 40.5
41.3 acc. bad
41.6 acc. very bad, slight ejec. mark
41.9 acc. better, sight ejec. mark
42.2 acc. very good, tight group, ejec. swipe

The primers looked identical from the lightest to the heaviest
loads. No sticky bolt throughout the test. I think 42.2 of RL17 is a little too hot. I'm going to back down to 42.0 and shoot it out a 1k. See how accurate it is. If anyone can run this through Quickload or some other program, then it would great to see what kind of velocity I am getting. Thanks.
 
Re: Loads for 6.5x47 Lapua

anyone having a hard time getting the 140 AMAX, or are they available? I saw a bunch of stuff posted on the 208 AMAX in 308, and then could not find any
 
Re: Loads for 6.5x47 Lapua

Anyone got a load for 260 with a 142smk using RL 17? Didn't see one in the thread yet.
 
Re: Loads for 6.5x47 Lapua

.260 Rem
43.2gr of H4350
Lapua 139gr
2820 +/- 8 fps
2.88 OAL

.4's @100
 
Re: .260 Rem, Rel-17, 142 gr. SMKs

.260 current load
42.3 gr. Rel-17 with 142 gr. SMKs
26" Krieger barrel w/ TBAC 30P can
2860 fps at 8050' DensAlt (OK SDs, not stellar, using a ChargeMaster so should be accurate to .1gr)
.2-.3" @100, .015-.020 off lands
Mix of brass: Lapua .243 necked up & turned (best results), Lapua .308 necked down & turned (OK), Nosler .260 (a couple of primer pockets loosening up), Win .243 necked up & turned (OK+)
CCI BR2

Only complaint with Rel17 -- vel seems to spike during hot summer days. I've heard others report that as well.
 
Re: .260 Rem, Rel-17, 142 gr. SMKs

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: k2peaker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only complaint with Rel17 -- vel seems to spike during hot summer days. I've heard others report that as well. </div></div>

Yeah, I think I've been bitten by that. Worked great all winter and into spring. Awesome in fact.

Then i suddenly couldn't hit anything once the temps got into the upper 80's to mid 90's.

I don't think I've tried it over 100F.

Short-term, I went back to H4350.
 
Re: .260 Rem, Rel-17, 142 gr. SMKs

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: k2peaker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.260 current load
42.3 gr. Rel-17 with 142 gr. SMKs
26" Krieger barrel w/ TBAC 30P can
2860 fps at 8050' DensAlt (OK SDs, not stellar, using a ChargeMaster so should be accurate to .1gr)
.2-.3" @100, .015-.020 off lands
Mix of brass: Lapua .243 necked up & turned (best results), Lapua .308 necked down & turned (OK), Nosler .260 (a couple of primer pockets loosening up), Win .243 necked up & turned (OK+)
CCI BR2

Only complaint with Rel17 -- vel seems to spike during hot summer days. I've heard others report that as well. </div></div>


I have found much the same today at a training event.

260 Rem
45.0 gr RL17
139 gr Silver Scenars
Nosler 260 brass
Primers at the start of cratering with easy bolt lift.
Altitude - 4100 ft
Avg velocity 2967, ES - 11 fps from Chrono at 10:00 AM, 7.1 mils to 1000 yds
temp during chrono roughly 54º F

Warmed up to 85º F by 2:00 PM, cut back to 7.0 mil for the 1000 range and shot at least .3 mils clear over the top of a 24" tall plate. Pretty crazy.

The combo shoots well but once temp get warmer my existing data went out the window. I'll keep working on this to see where I end up.
 
Re: Loads for 6.5 Creedmoor

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pickpick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I need some load info for a 243win dpms 1-10 twist 20" upper. I've read through the pages and seem to see all bolt gun loads for this caliber. </div></div>

I've just loaded up some 85 SMK's with H4350, I'll let you know how they do.
 
Re: Loads for .260

Winchester 7mm-08 brass necked down to .264, primer holes de-burred, basic brass prep
Lapua 144 grain FMJBT with BC of .636
CCI-BR2 primer
C.O.A.L. 2.795
42.7 grains of H4350
27 inch Obermeyer 5R barrel with 1-8.75 twist and a RWS muzzle brake

MV 2736 FPS
very accurate in this rifle, but the barrel only has 40 rounds through it..so it is still quite new.
 
Re: Loads for 6.5x47

6.5x47L

130 jlk, touching
37gr varget
cci450
AIAW 24" bartlein (1-8.5 twist)
2825 fps, excellent accuracy


6.5x47L

123 lapua, .020 off
37gr varget
cci450
AIAW 24" bartlein (1-8.5 twist)
2900 fps, very good accuracy
 
Re: Loads for .260

6.5x47
26 inch barrel
140 vlds
38.1 grains H4350
seated just of the lands
5 shots extreme spread of 12 fps
Shot a little bitty cluster.
No pressure signs. 38.6 slight crater
38.9 started to show pressure
I will add chrono results soon!

Chrono is a piece of shit so I couldn't add results
 
Re: Loads for .260

6.5x47L

26" Hart on R700, 8twist, chambered by Walker Custom Rifles using Pacific's long freebore reamer (freebore 0.1814")

140gr Berger LR-BT
RL-15 upper end accuracy node: 37.7 to 38.3 grains (1" vertical spread between 37.7 and 38.3 at 440yds, including many holes touching)
CCI BR4
virgin Lapua brass
0.010" off

Velocity 12' from Muzzle : 2865fps (ES around 15)

Moderate pressures signs in this rifle/powder at 38.6gr
 
Re: Loads for .260

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Marked for load testing

DPMS
142gr Sierra
41.5gr H4350 </div></div>


H4350 is TOO SLOW Burn Rate Powder to use in AR-10 or M1a platform rifles.
 
Re: Loads for .260

24" Benchmark 3-groove 1-8 twist
Necked down Win 7-08 brass
BR2 primer
43.4g H4350
139 Scenar
2825FPS (no signs of pressure)
2 firings, so far so good.
 
Re: Loads for .260

27 inch Obermeyer 5R barrel
RWS muzzle brake
140 grain Nosler custom competition bullet
CCI-BR2 primer
43.8 grains of H4350
Winchester 7 mm-08 cases necked down to 6.5 mm. flash holes de-burred,
case necks de-burred with VLD de-burring tool
Length to ogive 2.230, C.O.A.L. 2.795
Velocity 2853

I tried loads between 42.5 grains up to 44 grains. At 44 grains, primers started to flatten, but bolt lift was still smooth and easy to lift...no sticking. This load (44 grains) would still be safe, but with the slightly increased group size, lower brass life, and increased barrel erosion, it just isn't worth it.

Besides, my Exbal program says that this load (43.8 grains) doesn't go transonic until around 1700 yards!! That is plenty far enough for my needs. At 1700 yards, this bullet has about as much energy as a 9mm bullet..not too shabby.
 
Re: Loads for 6.5x47

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cpl Snafu</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

6.5x47L

123 lapua, .020 off
37gr varget
cci450
AIAW 24" bartlein (1-8.5 twist)
2900 fps, very good accuracy

</div></div>

This is very close to the load I use with very good results.
 
Re: Loads for .260

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bignada</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Marked for load testing

DPMS
142gr Sierra
41.5gr H4350 </div></div>


H4350 is TOO SLOW Burn Rate Powder to use in AR-10 or M1a platform rifles. </div></div>

That load should work. I run 142 gr Sierras with 42.0 grains of H4350 in my DPMS. Have trouble with H4350 and lighter bullets though.
 
Re: Loads for .260

Recently working with:

6.5 Creedmoor
-Hornady brass
-139 Scenars
-41.8 H4350
-WLR primer
-2.750" OAL

2860fps@2000DA
27" Bartlein 1:8.5 5R

Going to try it in my POF 20" 6.5CM next....
 
Re: Loads for .260

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bowslngr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bignada</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pat M</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Marked for load testing

DPMS
142gr Sierra
41.5gr H4350 </div></div>


H4350 is TOO SLOW Burn Rate Powder to use in AR-10 or M1a platform rifles. </div></div>

That load should work. I run 142 gr Sierras with 42.0 grains of H4350 in my DPMS. Have trouble with H4350 and lighter bullets though.</div></div>


Not really to be a know-it-all smart-ass, but do you understand pressure curves and realize that powders slower than IMR4064, Varget, or Reloader 15 are potentially damaging to your rifle?

The slower powders are not generating a fast pressure rise due to their burn rate. Nope, pressure is still rising in your barrel and thereby in your gas system after the faster powders have done their work cycling the bolt carrier. Slower powders will batter your receiver and recoil spring. Same concerns for M1a even though it's a piston system. Slower burn rate powders batter the parts and overcome the spring rate and balance of carrier group weight or bolt and op rod in case of M1a.

Op rods aren't cheap to replace and neiher are receivers. Metal fatigue is hard to gauge, even if you magnaflux or do other high-tech testing. Is any of that shit worth a few extra FPS?

.308 gas guns are not 1000yd rifles, no .308 is. 800yds reliably sure. Yeah, certain bullets can be made to stay supersonic with stout loads for Palma or other diehards who try to prove a point. Point is, you don't risk damge to self or a $1400 rifle just because you can.

Shoot what you want in your rifle, but if you check the Service Rifle forum and likely over at Fulton Armory's forum, you'll find guys who depend on their semi-autos don't beat them up with slow burn rate powders.

Nothing up my sleeve...
Looks like I gotta get a new hat!
(for anyone who lived long enough to know R&B)
 
Re: Loads for .260

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bignada</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

H4350 is TOO SLOW Burn Rate Powder to use in AR-10 or M1a platform rifles. </div></div>

You are aware there's a difference between M1/M1A platforms and AR10/LR308 platforms correct?

Maybe you should talk to Hornady about their 6.5 Creedmoor H4350 loadings that they send to manufacturers for use in their platforms.

<span style="font-style: italic">
Actually I just snapped to the fact that you are thinking of 308's and 30-06's, even though you are posting in the 260/6.5 reloading section.......</span>

 
Re: Loads for .260

-260 Rem Savage 16 Weather Warrior w/ 22" factory barrel 1/8" twist
-1x fired Remington brass from factory loads, flash holes deburred, FL sized
-140 grain Berger Hunting VLD loaded at 2.890" (.030" off lands, mag loadable)
-CCI BR-2 primer
-42.7 grains H4350 shot 0.470" at 100 yards - 2700 FPS
-43.0 grains H4350 shot 0.590" at 100 yards - 2720 FPS

These are the only two handloads I've tried in the new hunting rifle, no need for tweaking, this is well as I can shoot.
 
Re: Loads for .260

For 6.5 Creedmoor:

End result:
2920 measured at 15 fps from muzzle, Actual calculated at 2928 with Patagonia.
Dope confirmed with 7.3mils at 1000 yds on paper, at 300 DA
ES < 20, SD < 10, n=10, confirmed over 100 rounds.

Brass Prep:
Hornady brass, primer pocket uniformed, flash hole deburred
Neck turned to 0.0135" validated on Starrett mike with 0.0001 resolution.
Trimmed, chamferred, deburred on Giraud
FLS and shoulder bumped back 0.001" verified with 0.001 resolution
Neck tension 0.001"

Loading
Federal 210M
Berger VLD 140 seated 0.097" off start of throat. Possible measurement errors of seating depth +- 0.002" with 10 samples of throat depth. Possible user error.
45.3grs H4350, zero confirmed with Class F2 checkweight, on acculab equivalent. Suspected error +- 0.1 grs.
2.080" Base to ogive measurement.


Equipment reference:
Rem 700 built by Short Action Customs/Mark Gordon
Krieger 1/8.5" Stainless 4 groove at 26"
 
Re: Loads for .260

Brian,
Excellent data posting. I guess I'm going to have to step up on how I report the data for my 260 Remington.

Nice job.
 
Re: Loads for .260 /.243/ 6.5x47/6.5 Creedmoor

For .260, out of a AAC 260 Barrel :

- Rem brass
- CCI BR2 primers
- 140 Amax @ 2.800" OAL
- H4350 @ 43.5 grains

Getting about 2750 with excellent accuracy. No pressure signs at all, appears to be easy on the brass at this point. It's only the second load I've tried and I don't plan on looking further anytime soon.
 
.243Win

I get 0.5" groups at 200yds & sub 1" at 300yds with;

.243Win Tikka T3 Super Varmint
20" barrel.
Standard Rifle
1 in 10 twist.

Lapua Brass
Fed 210m Primers
37.5 Grains Varget
80 grain Berger Varmint
0.001-0.002" off the lands.
3030fps

Awesome Load.

Alternative Load;

44grains H414
87 Grain V-Max
3100

V-Max better over 300yds.
 
260 Rem Loads

260 Remington:

Gunsmith: APA
Action: Surgeon 591
Barrel: Broughton 5C, No. 7 contour, 1:8 twist, 21.5" length

Favorite Loads (in order of long range acuracy)

1. 140 gr. A-Max
0.010" off lands
46.0 H4831sc
Nosler Cases (Rem works fine too).
Representative groups: 0.15-0.20 MOA up to 600 yards.

2. 140 gr Sierra Match King
0.010" off lands
46.0 H4831sc
Nosler Cases (Rem works fine too).
Representative groups: 0.20 - 0.30 MOA up to 600 yards.

What I've found peculiar, however, is the SMK's group slighly better than the A-Max's at 100 yards(0.1 MOA compared to 0.2 MOA).

3. 120 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip (hunting load)
0.010" off lands
38.0 gr. RL-15
Rem cases
Representative group: 0.4 - 0.5 MOA up to 100 yards (has not been tested further yet).

In all loads I use Redding's excellent Competition Series Neck Bushing Dies with about 0.002 springback tension. Using Sinclair's outstanding concentricity gauge, I've verified that runout is kept within 0.002" in all loads.

As has been repeated here - DO NOT use any load without consulting a load manual and understanding where to begin. Always work loads up from low to high, stopping immediately if high pressure signs appear.

Jason
 
260 Rem

These are some numbers I got the other day
Rifle's new groups tightened as the day progressed, not sure if it was the rifle or the load with only 70 rounds through it. Nothing below showed any pressure signs.

Savage LRP, 26" 8 twist

79F 5604ASL

Chronograph at 12ft from muzzle.

43.4 GR RL-17, 123 A-Max
2.800 OAL, 210M, New Lapua

2974 Avg. 2968.4
2975 ES 23.99
2967 SD 7.07
2962
2972
2954
2969
2964
2978
2969

43.7 GR RL-17, 123 A-Max
2.800 OAL, 210M, New Lapua

2992 Avg. 2979.2
2971 ES 44.7
2985 SD 14.51
2996
3000
2983
2977
2964
2968
2956

44.0 GR RL-17, 123 A-Max
2.800 OAL, 210M, New Lapua

3002 Avg. 3014.7
3023 ES 55.71
3039 SD 19.48
3046
3033
2998
3015
2998
3002
2991


44.3 GR RL-17, 123 A-Max
2.800 OAL, 210M, New Lapua

3030 Avg. 3048.4
3042 ES 39
3049 SD 11.90
3058
3052
3069
3061
3045
3036
3042


44.6 GR RL-17, 123 A-Max
2.800 OAL, 210M, New Lapua

3066 Avg. 3043.1
3042 ES 43
3048 SD 14.21
3020
3042
3058
3050
3046
3023
3036
 
Re: Loads for .260

Does anyone have any 6.5x47 loads with varget and 140 amax ? I have seen or could not find though the hide search about the round loaded with varget ?
 
Re: Loads for .260

Is there a consensus on the type of powder that is used for the 6.5 CM? I have read through multiple threads and my take away has been RL-17, H4350, and some discussion of 4831SC.
 
Re: Loads for .260

I tested H4831sc and H4350. The factory load of 41.5gr H4350 shined in my rifle with the 140 amax. I got to the point where I was compressing the 4831sc too much for my liking. I've seen/heard of guys going up to 42-42.5 of H4350. I stuck with accuracy at 41.5gr.
 
Re: Loads for .260

I don't know about the 6.5CM, but when I was looking for a load for my 260 Rem, I took the recommended powders, recommended charges for those powders to get a relative starting point for my loads. The most commonly used powder for the 260 REM was H4350.

For what it is worth, the load my rifle liked best was within .5 grain of the average of what almost everyone else used.

I threw out the highest, and lowest loads, and averaged the rest. I figured the highest, and lowest loads could effect the average. As I was trying to find the load that sat closest to the centerline of a bell curve, throwing out the high and low gave me better data.

If both the high and low would have been the same distance from the center of the curve, it wouldn't have effected anything, but I found that there was a tendency for there to be more on the high end than the low end. I think that is because most people are trying to get higher velocity...and that is understandable.
 
Re: Loads for .260

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there a consensus on the type of powder that is used for the 6.5 CM? I have read through multiple threads and my take away has been RL-17, H4350, and some discussion of 4831SC. </div></div>

Hugh, Do yourself a favour and resist the temptation too stray way from the factory load data.
140 A-Max and 43.5 of 4350 it will take you about 9.8mils to get to 1000m

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I always have to toss that one round.
5@ shots 100m
 
Re: Loads for .260

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there a consensus on the type of powder that is used for the 6.5 CM? I have read through multiple threads and my take away has been RL-17, H4350, and some discussion of 4831SC. </div></div>

Worked up loads with 4350 and 4831sc with 140Amax, 139 Scenar, and 130vld's. My barrel likes 4350/130vld's @ 2960. Don't see the the need to try R17 with the velocity I'm getting.
 
Re: Loads for .260

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bryan Yeung</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For 6.5 Creedmoor:

End result:
2920 measured at 15 fps from muzzle, Actual calculated at 2928 with Patagonia.
Dope confirmed with 7.3mils at 1000 yds on paper, at 300 DA
ES < 20, SD < 10, n=10, confirmed over 100 rounds.

Brass Prep:
Hornady brass, primer pocket uniformed, flash hole deburred
Neck turned to 0.0135" validated on Starrett mike with 0.0001 resolution.
Trimmed, chamferred, deburred on Giraud
FLS and shoulder bumped back 0.001" verified with 0.001 resolution
Neck tension 0.001"

Loading
Federal 210M
Berger VLD 140 seated 0.097" off start of throat. Possible measurement errors of seating depth +- 0.002" with 10 samples of throat depth. Possible user error.
45.3grs H4350, zero confirmed with Class F2 checkweight, on acculab equivalent. Suspected error +- 0.1 grs.
2.080" Base to ogive measurement.


Equipment reference:
Rem 700 built by Short Action Customs/Mark Gordon
Krieger 1/8.5" Stainless 4 groove at 26"



</div></div>

tag for testing
 
Re: Loads for .260

I currently am working on a load with Superformance as well. I loaded 10 rounds last night and will take them out to the range and post results.

260 Rem
Remington Brass
CCI #200 primer
140 AMAX
40.0 GR Superformance
C.O.L 2.860"
 
Re: Loads for .260

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 6.5_shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I currently am working on a load with Superformance as well. I loaded 10 rounds last night and will take them out to the range and post results.

260 Rem
Remington Brass
CCI #200 primer
140 AMAX
40.0 GR Superformance
C.O.L 2.860" </div></div>

The Superformance load averaged about 2550 fps (although my neck tension is not where it needs to be so it may be a bit higher) and my best group (3 shot) was .557" I'm going to step it up to 41 GR and 41.5 GR and see what happens.
 
Re: Loads for .260

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StanwoodSpartan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">6.5 Creedmoor question. Anybody shooting the 130 VLD's, 140VLD's, or 142 SMK's?? </div></div>

Shooting the 6.5 Creedmoor round for 3 years and have seen no reason to change from the factory load data.

In a properly plumbed rifle the Hornady load will hold 1/3 MOA and better @100m.

With proper reload technique and the 140 A-Max/41.5 H-4350 load,brass should last 10x.
 
Re: Loads for .260

Are there any loads tested for the semi auto AR platform for 260 Rem? I have an LMT that I need to come up with a load for using 142 SMK's and H4350...Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Bill
 
Re: Loads for .260

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gau17</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DaveD - what dies do you use for your Creedmoor? </div></div>
The standard Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor New Dimension Dies part number 546289 will give you .002 of neck tension.
No need in buying a more expensive bushing type die for this round.

The factory match ammo is inexpensive and also shoots well.

2 things about this round.
If your going to shoot the factory ammo buy a bunch of it when its available
If you are going to reload,buy all the brass can, when you can,as its also not always available.
 
Re: Loads for .260

6.5x47L

Finished up load work today for my latest rifle:

Rifle:
Defiance short action
ABS wrapped Saturn liner barrel @ 24"
Manners T5A w/ 90% Carbon Fiber shell & Mini Chassis
Leupold MK4 M5 4.5-14x50

Load:
42.2gr of H4350
Lapua brass (full prep/no neck turn)
CCi 450's
Berger 130 VLD's
.002" off the lands

Avg: 2902fps
ES: 12fps
SD: 4fps

I fired this load 15 times over the chronograph in 3 strings of 5 shots each. I had decent conditions for the chronograph, so I'd say it's pretty accurate on the data. At 42.2gr I had absolutely NO pressure signs, so I feel I could have easily reached the 2950fps mark or surpassed it, but this load was extremely accurate and the chronograph numbers support it, so I didn't see any reason to continue. I have a hunting trip I'm going on in a couple days, so i needed a solid load. I may continue to work with it later on, but for now, I'd say this is good.
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Re: Loads for .260

Trevor,
Very nice rifle! I had a 260 REM built using a Defiance Defender action. The folks at Defiance are fabulous to work with. With all the options available, I was a bit intimidated at first. The people at Defiance were so helpful, and easy to work with, going through all the possible options was actually fun. The rifle came out better than my wildest hopes, and it still outshoots me.

I think all accuracy is relevant. It doesn't matter if the rifle will shoot quarter minute groups if the shooter is only capable of minute of angle shooting. With me shooting it, my 260 easily shoots .3-.4 moa. I'm pretty sure that a bench rest shooter could do much better, but I'm plenty happy with what I get out of it.

I posted my 260 Remington loads earlier in this thread, so there isn't any reason to repeat them. However, if asked, I will gladly re-post them, or email the info to interested people.
 
Re: Loads for .260

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unknown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Trevor,
Very nice rifle! I had a 260 REM built using a Defiance Defender action. The folks at Defiance are fabulous to work with. With all the options available, I was a bit intimidated at first. The people at Defiance were so helpful, and easy to work with, going through all the possible options was actually fun. The rifle came out better than my wildest hopes, and it still outshoots me.

I think all accuracy is relevant. It doesn't matter if the rifle will shoot quarter minute groups if the shooter is only capable of minute of angle shooting. With me shooting it, my 260 easily shoots .3-.4 moa. I'm pretty sure that a bench rest shooter could do much better, but I'm plenty happy with what I get out of it.

I posted my 260 Remington loads earlier in this thread, so there isn't any reason to repeat them. However, if asked, I will gladly re-post them, or email the info to interested people.</div></div>

Thanks for the compliment sir, it's appreciated.
This will be primarily a hunting rifle. I tried to go pretty light weight on everything, but still have a rifle that actually fit "Me". That's why I have the T5A over a traditional hunting stock, I just don't like them and they don't like me. I've kept it under 10lbs, I'm very happy with it. The scope is the new M5 with the .10 mil turrets and the FFP TMR recticle. Tried to keep it Tacticle and matching my other rifles, but still light weight. The scope is only 23oz compared to my NF's at 32oz. I really like the scope also. Great glass, very forgiving eye relief at max mag, nice turrets, and it's short/compact. Leupold did a decent job on this scope. No, it does NOT have 10 Mils per rev, but it only takes me 6.3 Mils to get to 1000yds so what the hell is the big deal with 10mils per rev?