Yep, thats also a possibility. Esp after one login is exposed or makes a tatical error.
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Yep, thats also a possibility. Esp after one login is exposed or makes a tatical error.
the roots of antifa and blm.
I find it odd that with all the commentary about how useless this thread is, you keep coming back with more.the roots of antifa and blm.
Also odd that the same ten or fifteen clowns that got their panties in a twist over this thread are the same ones constantly posting denigrating threads about leftists, BLM etc, without any blowback about trolling and "what does it have to do with shooting"
Talk about cancel culture.
i don't consider it useless, although i accepted that many have this opinion and i acknowledged that.
while i abhor symbols of hate, this is an important topic. do we have free speech or not?
certainly hatred for white christians appears to be allowed and encouraged by the liberal media, as well as hatred for the police.
The original post simply said this guy was a bully, and gives a bad image to white gun owners.
Not much there that should be controversial or instigating as far as I'm concerned. If this was a forum that was entirely free of political stuff, then I'd agree, it would be inappropriate to post something of this nature. But there's plenty of it that I saw, so didn't see it as a problem.
It devolved to the point that some guys actually think I'm a lib, which is laughable considering how it's complete opposite of where I stand.
The cancel culture and wildly insane intolerance of a different point of view is alive and well with (some of) those who claim to be conservative and believe in free speech; this thread was a great demonstration of that.
For what it's worth, I respect your input as something intelligent and worthwhile, even though I disagree with some if it.
To be honest, it does suck that some use free speech to promote hate.
IMO, being uncomfortable, or offended, pissed-off ect, is a small price to pay when so many others have paid the ultimate price to secure it through blood, guts and tears spread all over this globe.
The reason for the absolute, is that morality and virtuosity (aka "what is right") changes over time or in some cases very abruptly. Its like prevailing wind. And it eventually manifests itself as a club on which to oppress. This has been evident over and over and over throughout human history. Its simple concept is its strength. Of course, with this comes a price.
Truth of the matter, no one can be trusted to police speech, including myself.
We have to protect ourselves from ourselves and our inherent flaws.
Its not support of the message in fact it could be completely the opposite. But it is acknowledgement knowing where the train leads should it start on that track. Let history be your guide.
Btw @1911addict42, I was trying to have an actual discussion with you. But I sense you were being dishonest when you agreed that there was room for disagreement. It seems that is not the case but I could be wrong.
You will also find I take the above stance over and over, even when I may personally agree with the message.
And to be crystal clear as far as this thread is not the case.
But see its like magic, the absolute protects me from my own feelings and reactions I may have based on these feelings.
Maybe, we as a society we can evolve past this. But my optimism is fading.
Cancel culture is a manifestation of anger since you cannot use force to suppress. It has nothing to do with who is right or wrong but a means on which to enforce your morality or virtuosity (sounds vaguely familiar) just without the club. I get that the underlying intentions can be made in what one may consider good faith. But thats not good enough. Lots of horrific things have come from what was considered good faith, good for the whole or just plain the "right thing to do".
IMO, being uncomfortable, or offended, pissed-off ect, is a small price to pay when so many others have paid the ultimate price to secure it through blood, guts and tears spread all over this globe.
The reason for the absolute, is that morality and virtuosity (aka "what is right") changes over time or in some cases very abruptly. Its like prevailing wind. And it eventually manifests itself as a club on which to oppress. This has been evident over and over and over throughout human history. Its simple concept is its strength. Of course, with this comes a price.
Truth of the matter, no one can be trusted to police speech, including myself.
We have to protect ourselves from ourselves and our inherent flaws.
Its not support of the message in fact it could be completely the opposite. But it is acknowledgement knowing where the train leads should it start on that track. Let history be your guide.
Btw @1911addict42, I was trying to have an actual discussion with you. But I sense you were being dishonest when you agreed that there was room for disagreement. It seems that is not the case but I could be wrong.
You will also find I take the above stance over and over, even when I may personally agree with the message.
And to be crystal clear as far as this thread is not the case.
But see its like magic, the absolute protects me from my own feelings and reactions I may have based on these feelings.
Maybe, we as a society we can evolve past this. But my optimism is fading.
Cancel culture is a manifestation of anger since you cannot use force to suppress. It has nothing to do with who is right or wrong but a means on which to enforce your morality or virtuosity (sounds vaguely familiar) just without the club. I get that the underlying intentions can be made in what one may consider good faith. But thats not good enough. Lots of horrific things have come from what was considered good faith, good for the whole or just plain the "right thing to do".
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I’m not sure who’s who anymore, but if I remember correctly, you wanted to know what’s “allowable” for disagreement. Not sure how you define “allowable,” but I’ve refrained from cheap personal attacks and harassment against those who I disagree with. I simply state my case and stick to the issues, and let them do the same. That’s how I define allowable.
As for the slippery slope of freedom of speech, I agree for the most part...
If someone wants to take a knee during the National Anthem, while I strongly disagree and disapprove, it’s within their right under freedom of speech.
However, if someone was to start burning an American flag and raise an ISIS flag during the anthem, that would cross the line into something more along the lines of “Enemy of the State.”
While the government may or may not be able to do anything within the confines of the law, I believe that the citizens have a responsibility to see to it that the individual gets consequences for that. What the consequences should be is up for debate.
The Nazi symbol in MY OPINION, is the equivalent of the ISIS analogy.
A symbol of pure evil that plunged the entire world into darkness and death for years, does not get the privilege of freedom of speech under the protection of the same country that defeated the Nazis.
there are so many respectful and intelligent ways to express oneself and one’s position.
in my opinion the gentleman in the photograph chose very poorly.
it is an insult to every soldier, man, woman and child that suffered or were murdered by those who proudly wore and expressed that symbol.
in my opinion the gentleman in the photograph chose very poorly.
it is an insult to every soldier, man, woman and child that suffered or were murdered by those who proudly wore and expressed that symbol.
lol, i guess i agree with that too.
while i support free speech, that doesn't mean i won't react to it. i doubt that i would assault anyone over a mask though, simply because i don't know why he is wearing it. perhaps it was a protest against fascist authoritarian rules put on us by our government over the wuhan flu?
the whole "we are not disrespecting america, or our fallen soldiers, active duty or anyone else" excuse is bullshit.
if they are not disrespecting the flag, why are they kneeling during the anthem when half the stadium is getting a beer and most of the folks at home aren't watching the game yet?
if they cared that much about their "cause" they would kneel on the first snap of the game when everyone is watching.
is 5 yards too much to risk to bring light to such tragedies as a criminal dying of a fentanyl overdose while some jackass is kneeling on his neck?
haha, i wasn't even assuming you said that, only that some things are done to provoke a response, and therefore the wearer should expect one.
Its easy to "What if" and 'but" while you hold power on what is "fashionably" virtuous...
Not so much when its turned against you.
There is more than the past at stake, there is the future as well...
But anywho...this ran its course long ago.
Not so much when its turned against you.
There is more than the past at stake, there is the future as well...
But anywho...this ran its course long ago.
i think the sad thing is that race bias and open racism had been on the steep decline before obama became president and from that lofty place, started hate mongering all over again. even a CNN poll showed that race relations got worse after 8 years of his "leadership".
then in order to cover the stench of her own history, clinton made racism a core argument of her campaign, basically labeling anyone that voted for trump (or didn't vehemently hate him) as racist by proxy. the liberal media controlled by you know who repeated the lies ad nauseam until half the country believed it, and here we are.
growing up in the 60s and 70s, the most racist or discriminatory thing i was exposed to was archie bunker on all in the family.
we had maybe 8 black kids at my high school, and one of them was student body president the year i graduated. (no he wasn't a sports hero).
if there was a story in the sunday about KKK or white supremacists, we would laugh because there might be dozen idiots marching around.
now the open attacks and hostility toward white christians is causing people to be defensive.
if they didn't have any problem with PoCs, they might now.
that is the tragedy of this story.
and i'm not white.
This mimics my experience. My generation was taught that all people were equal, and it went on, for some unknown reason, to teach its kids that some people are more equal than others.
i think a lot depends upon where you grew up, who your mentors were, your culture, experience etc.
More than a few country clubs did not allow People of Color to join even in the 1990...i recall the PGA challenge for example.
If i recall correctly back in 1990, not yet our President Donald Trump had to fight hard to open Mar-a- Lago to open the club and course to Jews and People of Color.
Dartmouth only started admitting women in the 1970s
It was only 1964 that Jewish people were allowed to live in La Jolla. Restrictions and regulations were forced to evolve so that the University and Salk Institute could be established and faculty could be recruited.
I can honestly tell you that during the 60s and through the mid 70s, in my community, one very much learned to hide their ethnicity and traverse only streets that were known to be safe if one was to make it home unbloodied.
there are countless more examples
Thankfully things are a little easier and safer now.....probably because i control the media and our secret cabal which is so secret i didn't even know i was a integral part of, rules the world.
More than a few country clubs did not allow People of Color to join even in the 1990...i recall the PGA challenge for example.
If i recall correctly back in 1990, not yet our President Donald Trump had to fight hard to open Mar-a- Lago to open the club and course to Jews and People of Color.
Dartmouth only started admitting women in the 1970s
It was only 1964 that Jewish people were allowed to live in La Jolla. Restrictions and regulations were forced to evolve so that the University and Salk Institute could be established and faculty could be recruited.
I can honestly tell you that during the 60s and through the mid 70s, in my community, one very much learned to hide their ethnicity and traverse only streets that were known to be safe if one was to make it home unbloodied.
there are countless more examples
Thankfully things are a little easier and safer now.....probably because i control the media and our secret cabal which is so secret i didn't even know i was a integral part of, rules the world.
Yes, you're correct. My family went to a beach in the 60's and early 70's that was set up as a "Private" club. Meaning that if anyone other than a white person or family tried to get into the beach area, they were told that it was a private club and membership was closed for the season.
I was a member to a men's club that also operated a pool for the community outside of the men's club membership. We were told when we joined that no guests would be permitted that were any other race but white. Once a member, in my 6th year, we initiated a Puerto Rican family. We were told that that was the one and only non-white family allowed into the club. When I resigned from the club it was still and all white membership. This was in 2004.
But that didn't make me a racist. While only 16 we had a black family move into our community. The first on the block. I had many fights where it was me and the new black kid who was picked on a lot. I took him under my wings and we fought just about ever group of kids who wanted to fight him just because he was black. Eventually, he was accepted. However years later, he got into drugs and I lost all respect for him and we became only neighbors.
Dear Sir,
May I respectfully ask your Cabalishly handsome self to air more porn on regular tv please? And for the sake of MtnCreek would you mind airing Zulu and Shaft (both versions) the 100 Best Blacks on Blondes clips for the entire duration of the Xmas season?
Kind regards,
Your humble subject and Gentile.
PS - if it wouldn't be too much, to which synagogue should I address my donation in order to get my kids into Harvard?
Correction: For the sake of MtnCreek please air “100 Best Black Stallions on Blonde German Liberals
That guy is an idiot either way. Despite whatever message hes trying to send.
I believe it was either violinist Jascha Heifetz or pianist Artur Rubinstein who said (i'll paraphrase, as this is partially from memory) "the way to get to Carnegie Hall was to practice, practice, practice". Those of my friends and colleagues who went to Harvard studied hard, a lot and well. My mentor, a brilliant fellow, did both his undergraduate and graduate studies there and was kind enough to bring me along to attend conferences and lectures. It was always a great thrill for me, opened my eyes to a new world. I learned a lot and made some lifelong friends. Sadly i did not attend the institution. I do, or rather till recently, have collaborated with several colleagues there and have had the privilege to lecture there. Very cool place.
ManUtdManiac, thank you for the kind words. I'm sorry i'm not familiar with and do not subscribe or frequent your other websites. I'm at best average in appearance but i do try. Somehow my better half endures. In all honestly, i do hope your children have the opportunity to study at Harvard. If you have to chance to visit and perhaps you have, it's a It's an absolutely lovely campus in a great town. Traffic can however be a bear. Here's their website that describes a bit of the process and what they look for: https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/apply/what-we-look
I would imagine that many charities would be pleased to accept your donations. My current favorites are our local hospice, Mazon (feeding the poor) and several of the animal rescue and care charities. Tragically there are so many in need.
Bullgear, you sound like you have a great soul.
Not sure how to respond to comment #282. Common decency alone would and should preclude one from stating what you've stated. Individuals on the forum are describing their experiences. I've described mine. If i've somehow offended you by describing my experience and responding to another's experience then i'm sorry for both of us. I did not experience what you've experienced. Thankfully you didn't have to experience some of what i've experienced. I'm sure you had your own challenges...we all do. Great thing about this magnificent country of ours is that so much is possible. We live, we experience, we learn, we teach and hopefully we make it a better world for our children.
Learning, integrating, thinking, challenging, gaining insight and understanding, consolidating and developing thought and ideas, even if they differ from yours, are valuable efforts. I value your opinion. I'm sorry that you don't find value in mine. We'll both survive.
ManUtdManiac, thank you for the kind words. I'm sorry i'm not familiar with and do not subscribe or frequent your other websites. I'm at best average in appearance but i do try. Somehow my better half endures. In all honestly, i do hope your children have the opportunity to study at Harvard. If you have to chance to visit and perhaps you have, it's a It's an absolutely lovely campus in a great town. Traffic can however be a bear. Here's their website that describes a bit of the process and what they look for: https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/apply/what-we-look
I would imagine that many charities would be pleased to accept your donations. My current favorites are our local hospice, Mazon (feeding the poor) and several of the animal rescue and care charities. Tragically there are so many in need.
Bullgear, you sound like you have a great soul.
Not sure how to respond to comment #282. Common decency alone would and should preclude one from stating what you've stated. Individuals on the forum are describing their experiences. I've described mine. If i've somehow offended you by describing my experience and responding to another's experience then i'm sorry for both of us. I did not experience what you've experienced. Thankfully you didn't have to experience some of what i've experienced. I'm sure you had your own challenges...we all do. Great thing about this magnificent country of ours is that so much is possible. We live, we experience, we learn, we teach and hopefully we make it a better world for our children.
Learning, integrating, thinking, challenging, gaining insight and understanding, consolidating and developing thought and ideas, even if they differ from yours, are valuable efforts. I value your opinion. I'm sorry that you don't find value in mine. We'll both survive.
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My reply to putting this here no way condones the actions of whoever is wearing the nazi mask. That's what it is. Liberty and justice for all to me does not mean that those, whoever they are that are burning and looting our cities deserve justice. What is going on in some of our cities is pure hatred. And hanging a few in the town square would literally stop them in their tracks. Someone might say that this is cruel and unusual punishment. Judge Roy Bean didn't think so. Someone may also say that this is just the world we live in today. I say BS. Our ancestors built this Country we live in today. Men and women have given their lives for us to live in this Country. I will not get into any kind of politics but we have those that are letting our cities be destroyed. Am I passionate about the Country I live in. Yes I am. At least right now we are free to come and go as we wish. I don't know what the future holds but for me and my house we will serve the Lord. And I will defend myself and my house until the day I die.
You want to change the mood in a sports bar while all the assholes are kneeling?
Hold a “Patriots” meeting in a bar, bring in your own flag, stand, and recite the pledge of allegiance to begin your meeting - and notice that a good 90% of the bar patrons will join in. Awesome feel good moment. The “silent majority” is certainly alive and well.
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