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I like the new EBR-7D reticle. They cleaned the 7C reticle up quite a bit, it was unnecessarily busy. Much cleaner lines now. It may be on par with Leupold's PR2 reticle (my favorite). And I agree, they're gonna sell plenty of these. Hopefully the glass is on par with the mid-top tier scopes. I'll be interested to see how it stacks up with the 7-35 MK5 at about $1k more

I don't mind the brown color but Vortex is just stupid for not offering razors in black. They've got to miss out on a lot of sales due to their loyalty to that color. It can make a sexy rifle ugly.

Meh I bet they sell way more than they lose out on because of it.
 

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    Mark5 with the PR2 and PR1 reticles is definitely a very strong contender especially if you do not care about reticle illumination. That keeps the price down quite a lot.

    It is entirely possible that if Leupold keeps the price of the Mark 5 steady, Vortex' price increases will help their market share.

    This whole dynamic between Razor, Mark 5 and ATACR is really interesting. ATACR is in a somewhat different price category and they have probably the most dedicated fanboys (easily one of the most successful marketing campaigns) of any brand, but this should put a good bit of pressure on them. Razor Gen3 is coming just after Leupold finally got their reticle situation squared away, so we now have Mark 5 5-25x56 and 7-35x56, ATACR 5-25x56 and 7-35x56, Razor Gen3 6-36x56 and a couple of others really going after the same buyer. Add Leica PRS 5-30x56 and US Optics FDN25x hovering near there as well.

    The dark horse is Burris, of course, and with all the people hinting that Burris is about to release something, I would not be surprised if it is something relevant to this category.

    I am going to have all sorts of fun with this.

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    I havnt seen you mention them yet, but have you gotten any hands on with the new Bushnell DMR3/XRS3 and how they stack against the other scopes you mentioned?
     

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    Sky told me he was sending you one. You're at the top of the list.

    Now that the Razor Gen3 is here, it is going to be really interesting how this whole pecking order stacks up. I think Burris is doing a lot of good things with this one, but the proof is in the pudding. Both Burris and Vortex have to be able to make these consistently and in significant quantities. The market is definitely there.

    ILya
     

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    hey @koshkin i
    how would think the glass in the new RZR G3 would compare vs the top dogs (TT, ZCO and to some extent Minox and Kahles)?
    Thank you
     

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    We have a large shipment of Razor Gen III 6-36 coming in a few days, we have a handful left unsold o_O


    Vortex Razor Gen III 6-36 pre-sale!


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    And yet TT is charging people an extra $200 to get that color. LOL


    ETA waiting for the "but they offer it in black too" comments. LOL
     

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    And yet TT is charging people an extra $200 to get that color. LOL


    ETA waiting for the "but they offer it in black too" comments. LOL
    But they offer it in black too
     

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    And yet TT is charging people an extra $200 to get that color. LOL


    ETA waiting for the "but they offer it in black too" comments. LOL
    $5500! Holy shitake!
     

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    This new Razor III is about the same price as a Zeiss. Has anyone looked through both and give us a intellectual opinion? I ordered a Razor HD II, 10+ weeks ago (no, I haven't gotten it yet), and, granted, the $$$ is much lower then 3K, but I'm considering canceling the order and either getting a HD III or the Zeiss. Comments/opinions?
     

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    And yet TT is charging people an extra $200 to get that color. LOL

    Ah...not the same color, really. But agree...TT is apparently offering them in FDE....and black. haha

    Not sure what you would call the Razor color...some sort of diseased bronze maybe.

    Mostly joking but yes, on the gun pictured above with the grey chassis, that Razor color looks awful to my eye.

    Ok, move along folks...nothing to see here! haha
     
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    Come on dude. That color is almost the exact same and not FDE. But doesn’t matter. It’s on a TT so it’s ok. Put it on a Vortex and it’s ugly. Lol

    And yup that rifle above would shoot much better with a black scope.
     

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    Come on dude. That color is almost the exact same and not FDE. But doesn’t matter. It’s on a TT so it’s ok. Put it on a Vortex and it’s ugly. Lol

    And yup that rifle above would shoot much better with a black scope.
    Come on, dude...the colors aren't even close....and they offer it in black! haha

    And who cares how it shoots....we're talking aesthetics here, mate. Its very important to look good as you miss! haha

    And you are right...they are calling it Coyote Brown...but it looks more like FDE to me. Whatever, everybody seems to call diff colors by these names. LOL

    Full disclosure, I run a Vortex on my deer .308 and am happy with it while I don't think I will ever give TT the money they want for their scope. But that may change when I win the Powerball! LOL

    Cheers

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    This new Razor III is about the same price as a Zeiss. Has anyone looked through both and give us a intellectual opinion? I ordered a Razor HD II, 10+ weeks ago (no, I haven't gotten it yet), and, granted, the $$$ is much lower then 3K, but I'm considering canceling the order and either getting a HD III or the Zeiss. Comments/opinions?
    No its not, not even close. Its between 500 and $1500 cheaper than the Zeiss. In fact, it was $1999 for a day before vortex killed the 50% off and went back to 40%. Only the MOA was in stock however.

    Anyone paying $3K+ for this is a moron.

    I highly doubt the Razor is going to rival the Ziess, ZCO or TT. The only Japanese manufacture that has even come close is March and LOW is not Deon. The comparable march optics are priced similarly to those mentioned above. You get what you pay for.
     
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    Come on, dude...the colors aren't even close....and they offer it in black! haha

    And who cares how it shoots....we're talking aesthetics here, mate. Its very important to look good as you miss! haha

    And you are right...they are calling it Coyote Brown...but it looks more like FDE to me. Whatever, everybody seems to call diff colors by these names. LOL

    Full disclosure, I run a Vortex on my deer .308 and am happy with it while I don't think I will ever give TT the money they want for their scope. But that may change when I win the Powerball! LOL

    Cheers

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    That rifle the TT is on is FDE. I bet if you put them next to each other in the same lighting they would be closer than you think.
     
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    Looksie... those who piss sitting down complaining about the color again.

    I hear LV and Gucci are going to make matching heals and purses to go with this color for the upcoming fashon season. Maybe even a matching buttplug if you are lucky.
    In real life, I own people who talk smack as poorly as you. #banuglyrifles
     

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    Since we're on the subject of color (Razor 2 goes great with krg green) some of the pictures I've seen look more toward the coyote from baron23 post than the Razor 2. Is the Razor 3 the same color as the Razor 2 or are they different?
     
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    I'll vouch for the sexual abilities of the Razors.
    I've fucked a fair few foxes, roos, cats, and deer with them.
    Looking forward to seeing the new Razor in the flesh.
     

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    Dry Fire for 2+ hours a day and you can win PRS matches as well

    Also don't have to work, worry about taking care of a household, load your own ammo ect.
     

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    Looksie... those who piss sitting down complaining about the color again.

    I hear LV and Gucci are going to make matching heals and purses to go with this color for the upcoming fashon season. Maybe even a matching buttplug if you are lucky.
    Totally agree. My belly gun looks like it was built out of a junk yard. Still shoots great. I rather prefer the color of the Razor.
     

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    That rifle the TT is on is FDE. I bet if you put them next to each other in the same lighting they would be closer than you think.

    Mate I know you have tonnes of Vortex stuff, but I have 3 G2 Razors, and cerakote a lot of stuff FDE.....






    and those two colors aint close. Even Cerakotes Vortex Bronze is just an OK match.
     

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    As I said, while there may be a mil standard on these colors somewhere, it seems like everybody calls diff colors by these names


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    Commonly referred to as "the brown sand / grey green / mil-tan / browny / dark green / sniper black" one.

    Customers always say that when they want cerakote jobs.
     

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    Mate I know you have tonnes of Vortex stuff, but I have 3 G2 Razors, and cerakote a lot of stuff FDE.....






    and those two colors aint close. Even Cerakotes Vortex Bronze is just an OK match.

    No they aren't an exact match of course and might not even be "close" on a color chart but they are closer than some want them to be. LOL ;)
     

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    This new Razor III is about the same price as a Zeiss. Has anyone looked through both and give us a intellectual opinion? I ordered a Razor HD II, 10+ weeks ago (no, I haven't gotten it yet), and, granted, the $$$ is much lower then 3K, but I'm considering canceling the order and either getting a HD III or the Zeiss. Comments/opinions?
    Yes, I’ve looked through both. The Zeiss at the precision rifle expo and the gen3, first at Vortex, and now at home. They’re both very nice! This gen3 is really an awesome piece of glass.
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    And yet TT is charging people an extra $200 to get that color. LOL


    ETA waiting for the "but they offer it in black too" comments. LOL
    Or the "it's too heavy" guys to go out and buy a weight system. lol
     

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    Krylon is about $5/can :)
    Haha…that’s funny and makes me just want to run out and buy a new Razor…so I can paint it with a spray can.

    Genius, right there.

    :unsure::rolleyes::ROFLMAO:

    Look, this isn't a big issue to me so the defenders of the Razor faith should consider chilling out a bit.

    No, its not my fav color and yes, I thought it did look really fugly on that grey chassis with black iron. But I thought that my comments incl this:

    "And who cares how it shoots....we're talking aesthetics here, mate. Its very important to look good as you miss! haha"

    Would have provided a hint that I was mostly tongue in cheek.

    But its still an ugly color! :rolleyes:;):ROFLMAO:
     
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    Haha…that’s funny and makes me just want to run out and buy a new Razor…so I can paint it with a spray can.

    Genius, right there.

    :unsure::rolleyes::ROFLMAO:

    You could pay for a nice cerakote job, I'm sure CS tactical could take care of that for you. Seems like color of the scope is the least important thing on a scope.
     

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    You could pay for a nice cerakote job, I'm sure CS tactical could take care of that for you. Seems like color of the scope is the least important thing on a scope.
    Nah, I have my eyes on a ZCO 5-27 as my next scope within a few months and I def plan to contact @CSTactical about it.

    Aaaaaand, as I said above, I have a Vortex on my .308 deer gun and I'm quite happy with it.....especially since its black! haha ;)
    :)
     
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    ... ATACR is in a somewhat different price category and they have probably the most dedicated fanboys (easily one of the most successful marketing campaigns) of any brand, but this should put a good bit of pressure on them.

    I think some in this forum might get 'Vortex' etched into their tombstones
    (and possibly embed a rusty pot-metal Harris bipod into the face).
    So I think they are holding their own in the Fanboy department.:ROFLMAO:

    I've had success with both brand's offerings.:)