Is the brass worth keeping for future reloads?Just a bit of an update. I have shot 2 prs matches with this ammo so far, a 1 day and 2 day. My usual PRS load is 109 bergers at 2940 that shoots 3/8" with about a 4 SD. This ammo is closer to 1/2 moa with about a 10-14 SD. At $22 a box, It costs the same as my reloads, but when you subtract the cost of selling the brass, it brings it down to like $12 a box, which is nuts. I don't think I missed any targets due to the ammo, they were all me. If I had even a suspect that the ammo was an issue, I wouldn't shoot it.
Now that the barrel is sped up, its shooting right over 2700 with a 26" hawk hill.
I have about 450 down the tube so far and about 3500 more stashed away. Actually thinking of buying some more, it shoots so well and these prices can't stay cheap forever. Headed up to another 1 day next weekend known for high winds and challenging COF with small targets.
Defiantly.Is the brass worth keeping for future reloads?
From what I have been told it holds up better than hornadyIs the brass worth keeping for future reloads?
My 6.5 Tikka loves this 143 Golden Match.
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This stuff continues to impress the shit out of me. I had 7 rounds left in the box, so I loaded them up and shot this little group. I am actually finding this stuff to be more consistent than Hornady ELD-M as of late. It also doesn’t seem to wind sensitive as ELDM’s. Agreed with above, hopefully this stuff stays affordable as my AXSA loves it.View attachment 8106227
My 6.5 Tikka loves this 143 Golden Match.
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Its a stock CTR barrel, 24" with a 1:8 twist, with a Nomad30 on the endMind me asking your barrel length and twist rate?
The only ballistic cal you should use is AB... trash everything else.I have shot multiple 10 shot strings with this ammo, SD of 11 and ES around 35-40. Average velocity of 2645 out of 24" barrel. However, last long range outing I either wrote down my dope incorrectly or either the BC or Hornady 4DoF was way off.
Can anyone recommend a BC calculator that seems to handle this ammo well, or seen similar velocities and can say if the BC seemed accurate for the 143s?
Agreed. I was using my exact mv and a .322 G7 bc value and i was trued perfectly 300yds-1000ydsThe only ballistic cal you should use is AB... trash everything else.
If you don’t mind, what was your MV and 400 and 600 dope?Agreed. I was using my exact mv and a .322 G7 bc value and i was trued perfectly 300yds-1000yds
I can check dope when i get home, MV is in my pic above, avg of 2609fpsIf you don’t mind, what was your MV and 400 and 600 dope?
Head shots at 300 and back to back hits at 1000 speak for them selfThat sounds off. I had to back down to .315 to get this to true up. I would double check waterline dope, that BC is higher than published, which is known to already be too high. Hell the PDM has it listed at .301.
None at all bud, even strikes all around.Have you had any issues with your firing pin? I've had a few issues with mine getting stuck shooting this ammo.
YupHave you had any issues with your firing pin? I've had a few issues with mine getting stuck shooting this ammo.
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Piece of the primer sometimes get lodged in the bolt body. It gets through the firing pin hole in the bolt face. Firing pin gets jammed and the gun won’t fire.
Doesn’t happen on my AT but happens on the AXMC. Not sure why. Has never happened with any other ammo either. Primer left in the pocket looks like it has a huge hole in it. It only happens 1 round in 20?
Check the fp opening on the AXMC. Sounds like a clearance issue, allowing primer to flown into cavity. Might have to bush it to prevent this from happening.
My AXSA is a 16, I’ve had no primer Flo issues, just a perfect center round dent.I have an AXSA, '14 model. I'm hoping once I go out again, I can try to see the round count before it happens.
Nothing here and about 300 rounds of it through my bolt gun.None at all bud, even strikes all around.
Ammo Seek : Norma Golden Target Match 6.5 CreedmoorYeah if anyone knows where to get this stuff for sub 300$ a case, let me know, I'd buy a few. Building a local prs club Loaner rig and some cheap ammo/muzzle tuner to dial the rifle would be a huge convenience, and just charge shooter the ammo costs.
Not a bad price, I'll order some. Anyone try the 130gr stuff?
The old 130gr stuff was tits, my favorite load. I sold my remaining 143gr cases in the PX for less than $300 and bought a load of the 130gr.Not a bad price, I'll order some. Anyone try the 130gr stuff?
Yes they are finally producing it again I got a case last week, I like the 130's a lot, last range trip average velocity 2896, ES 20, SD 6, shoots really well in my rifle. Surgeon 591, Bartlein #4 profile 25" Manners EH1-A. I have a case of Federal GMM Berger OTM Hybrid, have not shot any yet, hope it shoots as well as the Norma.It seems like they are producing the 130 again
I use the 130s exclusively. Have a lot of old PRIME, Berger and FGMM.Yes they are finally producing it again I got a case last week, I like the 130's a lot, last range trip average velocity 2896, ES 20, SD 6, shoots really well in my rifle. Surgeon 591, Bartlein #4 profile 25" Manners EH1-A. I have a case of Federal GMM Berger OTM Hybrid, have not shot any yet, hope it shoots as well as the Norma.
I think you will like the Norma 130's it shot better than all the Hornady I have, cant wait to get the Federal 130's out to the range, also just got a couple cases of 223 FGMM 77 gr need to get out and shoot some of that too.I use the 130s exclusively. Have a lot of old PRIME, Berger and FGMM.
The FGMM is crazy good out of my AXMC using a Bartlein Heavy Palma 27" barrel. It exceeds everything in terms of group size and consistency. The Berger cartridge is as good maybe a little better but a lot more money. I'll have to try the NORMA 130s now that they are in production again.
I’ll give it a shot for certain. This is from yesterday’s fun. 10 shot 0.61 MOA group at 300 yards using the FGMM 130s.I think you will like the Norma 130's it shot better than all the Hornady I have, cant wait to get the Federal 130's out to the range, also just got a couple cases of 223 FGMM 77 gr need to get out and shoot some of that too.
Speed kills...Curious why you guys are running the 130's over the 143's? I've yet to buy any quantity of it (had it in the cart multiple times so sad to see prices today), but will be running mostly through an 18" gasser
The 130 grain has an advantage of 2 Mils in Elevation and 0.6 Mils advantage in a 10 mph crosswind at 1,000 yardsI’m considering 130s for a short barrel to get speed up a bit over 2500. But for my 26” I don’t see the point. It’s the same wind hold with a 10mph crosswind at 1k
At what speeds? I’m at 2740 with a 26” and estimated 2870 with 130s the wind hold is dead on 2.1 mrad in AB for me?The 130 grain has an advantage of 2 Mils in Elevation and 0.6 Mils advantage in a 10 mph crosswind at 1,000 yards
Only gets more pronounced as distance gets further