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"Men are pawns at the hands of their superiors."

It doesn't seem like you have any military service on your resume.

A lack of perspective.
I may lack certain perspective by never serving. You may lack certain perspective because you did. Explain it to me as I am trying to understand.

All I hear is that these men cannot do anything other than what is told to them. If those doing the telling are evil marxists then what does it say about those underneath them that must obey and do evil marxist things. It matters little what one thinks. It matters what one does.

The same can be said about anyone working in the corporate world as well. Wear that mask for a paycheck. Heaven forbid having morals. I’m glad I am seeing these women raising hell in the school board meetings. Its a start. We all have to pitch in whenever we are confronted.
 

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    If by stupid shit you mean working for a marxist regime to destroy America then count me out.

    I think you know that is not what I meant.

    I was referring to having to sit through the seemingly endless series of mandatory feel good power point briefings that higher will push down. No one wants to do them. Your SgtMaj doesn't, your 1stSgt doesn't, not your Gunny, not your SSgt, nor your NCO's. Its just a small tiny part of the suck.

    Of all the shit you have to sit through, these little annoyances are the least of it. If you are avoiding military service to dodge this shit, you've got bigger problems that will get in the way first.

    We could drop half a dozen mandatory classes from the MCBUL 1500 and commanders could get back the white space on their training schedule to focus on real things.

    Honestly, a good solid personal financial management and an ethics class would be time better spent. Fortunately, NCO's and SNOC's have been adding that in on their own time. Unfortunately, without higher command directed oversight, the implementation and sharing of that wisdom is not uniform.

    HOWEVER, If they want to add a "hug the rainbow" training into the annual cycle of bullshit power points, go ahead. It won't change anything.

    Besides, I've served with sailors. They need hugs too.
     

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    There have been rules to follow in the military and always will be.

    Some days they suck for you.

    There has and always will be politics inside of each branch and post as well.

    Once you figure how to work that it's always better. But will always come at a price as well.

    America would be better off if it had a couple of years of compulsory military service.

    Imho
     
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    There have been rules to follow in the military and always will be.

    Some days they suck for you.

    There has and always will be politics inside of each branch and post as well.

    Once you figure how to work that it's always better. But will always come at a price as well.

    America would be better off if it had a couple of years of compulsory military service.

    Imho
    Forcing people to work for government wouldn’t make people better off. I despise this govt and would never ever rely on it for a paycheck.

    I read your posts here. You know this govt is fucked. You want to force people to empower it? Think about what you are saying for a bit. What we are experiencing is way beyond the suck it up stage. This is some evil shit.
     

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    Exposing the lies one at a time.

    I would like to shortcut to the joe and the ho won the election lie.
     
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    I think you know that is not what I meant.

    I was referring to having to sit through the seemingly endless series of mandatory feel good power point briefings that higher will push down. No one wants to do them. Your SgtMaj doesn't, your 1stSgt doesn't, not your Gunny, not your SSgt, nor your NCO's. Its just a small tiny part of the suck.

    Of all the shit you have to sit through, these little annoyances are the least of it. If you are avoiding military service to dodge this shit, you've got bigger problems that will get in the way first.

    We could drop half a dozen mandatory classes from the MCBUL 1500 and commanders could get back the white space on their training schedule to focus on real things.

    Honestly, a good solid personal financial management and an ethics class would be time better spent. Fortunately, NCO's and SNOC's have been adding that in on their own time. Unfortunately, without higher command directed oversight, the implementation and sharing of that wisdom is not uniform.

    HOWEVER, If they want to add a "hug the rainbow" training into the annual cycle of bullshit power points, go ahead. It won't change anything.

    Besides, I've served with sailors. They need hugs too.
    I knew what you meant and if it were just that I would agree. This is not anymore. What I said is closer to reality. People are in prison and people were killed. People lost their businesses and jobs. All this because of our evil corrupt govt. These are only a few examples.
     

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    I have no beef with hydroxychloroquine. I do, however, have major issues with people who do not understand fractions.

    To increase something by 200% is to increase it by a factor of 3. If we take the survival rate of Covid to be a nominal 99% (and please for the live of all that is holy I pray that no one starts a separate argument on this number), then HCQ would improve the survival rate to 297%. If indeed that was the case, then yeah, we've really harmed mankind by restricting the use of this drug.

    I believe whomever wrote that headline (and it's usually not the author, so I won't shit on her) meant to say is that it cuts the death rate by a factor of three. Which is still pretty damn remarkable if true. It's even more remarkable for those who believe that the disease isn't real.

    On a broader note, Daily Mail has been pilled or based or whatever stupid shit we're supposed to say to imply some generally anti-left bias. Something's up.
     
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    More push for the vaccine. This school thought it was a good idea to number the hands of students who weren’t “vaccinated”. The staff member with the marker in hand needs an ass whooping and quick. Where are the parents with pitch forks and torches?
    Students attending the event “who were unable to provide a vaccination card because they did not have or share a card or had not completed the full vaccination process had a number written on their hand,” an Exeter High School spokesperson told the DCNF. The school divided the dance floor into three sections and asked dancing students to stop periodically in between songs in order for them to “raise their hands to determine who they were around,” the spokesperson said.

     

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    I disagree.

    The military has been and always will be a direct reflection of the society that produces it.

    There may be more forced liberal indoctrination today, but the most powerful indoctrination comes from those you serve with. Give it a few years and the pendulum will swing back the other way. Half the population voted against this shit. The liberal half never was joining the military in droves.
    I'm glad you think that.

    However I have seen it first hand. My old units new 1SG is a tranny. We currently have 46 waiting here on fort carson alone waiting for their surgeries.

    Middle NCOs (E6-E7) cant do shit about anything. This is literally come straight from DOD. No going to the left or right.

    I had my training right before I got out of how bad of a person and threat I was because I was white.

    No one questions anything anymore. They just do it, no matter how stupid or against views it is.

    The army does directly reflect from society and sadly the liberals are in control.

    The military is divided and lines have been drawn. It almost came to physical confrontation in that brief I had between a 1SG and a senior E7.

    These new soldiers think that they are owed something. Aand dont even think of correcting them, because females will claim sexual harassment and the males if they are any minority will claim EO.

    I had almost 20 negative counseling on a soldier and for being late to formations, being disrespectful, telling me that standing at parade rest demeaned him and he wouldn't do it anymore and for just not doing his job.

    1SG wouldn't send up the separation packet. He went Scott free.

    Dont even think about using physical correction such as push ups or planking, because you can only make them do 5 repetitions and it has to be one of the exercises in the new PT program.

    There are no more shark attacks in basic training. They dont even have to pass a PT test anymore to graduate basic.

    So tell me how the army is truly....

    I'll wait.

    Doc
     

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    This depends on whether the eggs were white or the organic ones with the brown shells. If the eggs were from free range chickens then the destruction of the eggs and ending the free range could be symbolic of a grand plan to re-enslave non-white people of the world.
     
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    This depends on whether the eggs were white or the organic ones with the brown shells. If the eggs were from free range chickens then the destruction of the eggs and ending the free range could be symbolic of a grand plan to re-enslave non-white people of the world.
    it's just telling that somebody has to file a lawsuit to find out about the fake smearing of wypipo.
    you would think any institution would be happy to announce accusations of racism were false.
     

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    what percentage are reported to this center is anyone's guess. studies from 2010 found 10%?

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    Anyone have info on what if anything is happening with Mike Lindells election fraud video???
    @theLBC??
    his latest video "9-0" is what he is currently going to court with.
    what i heard (not sure) is that the way this suit is filed, the court basically has to see this evidence (of specific foreign hacks or connections into election machines). if you didn't already see it, they basically grabbed examples where there was data manipulation.
    now i don't know if or how they are going to force the court to watch or review/consider this evidence, but i suppose we will find out.

    i should note that when i searched for it, there are already "it experts" debunking the evidence.
    not sure if they are correct, or like doctors telling you hcq is deadly.
     
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    My old units new 1SG is a tranny. We currently have 46 waiting here on fort carson alone waiting for their surgeries.
    So tell me how the army is truly....
    BAH HA! Super Fucking GAY apparently! I recommend you guys stop trying to out gay the Navy. It is not a good look.

    Jokes aside, is this a discussion about if we approve of what some service members want to do with their jiggly bits, or is this why you think people should not join just because a batch of soldiers lost their damned minds?

    The concerning shit is your statement is the lack of discipline in the Army. I don't know if it is a symptom of the Army getting too big but all branches have units that wane in military discipline. I agree that the careerist mentality is extremely detrimental to the military. I wouldn't go so far to say the whole institution is bad.
     

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    Agreed. Tell them to join the Marine Corps instead.
    I was a 26 year old recruit in Marine Corps boot camp 40 years ago...........I am sure my boot camp was much easier than the recruits in 1941, as I am sure the recruits today have it much easier than I had it........everything now has to be politically correct........a DI is limited to what he can do today as opposed to 40 years ago, or 80 years ago...........My Corps is going to hell along with everything else.......
     

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    I'm glad you think that.

    However I have seen it first hand. My old units new 1SG is a tranny. We currently have 46 waiting here on fort carson alone waiting for their surgeries.

    Middle NCOs (E6-E7) cant do shit about anything. This is literally come straight from DOD. No going to the left or right.

    I had my training right before I got out of how bad of a person and threat I was because I was white.

    No one questions anything anymore. They just do it, no matter how stupid or against views it is.

    The army does directly reflect from society and sadly the liberals are in control.

    The military is divided and lines have been drawn. It almost came to physical confrontation in that brief I had between a 1SG and a senior E7.

    These new soldiers think that they are owed something. Aand dont even think of correcting them, because females will claim sexual harassment and the males if they are any minority will claim EO.

    I had almost 20 negative counseling on a soldier and for being late to formations, being disrespectful, telling me that standing at parade rest demeaned him and he wouldn't do it anymore and for just not doing his job.

    1SG wouldn't send up the separation packet. He went Scott free.

    Dont even think about using physical correction such as push ups or planking, because you can only make them do 5 repetitions and it has to be one of the exercises in the new PT program.

    There are no more shark attacks in basic training. They dont even have to pass a PT test anymore to graduate basic.

    So tell me how the army is truly....

    I'll wait.

    Doc
    Most of that stuff is news to me but not passing a pt test is nothing new. Battalion Commanders have been able to waive that one since at least 07. All the company commander had to do was show progress in prior tests. Come to think of it, there wasn’t much that wasn’t waiverable to graduate.
     

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    I was a 26 year old recruit in Marine Corps boot camp 40 years ago...........I am sure my boot camp was much easier than the recruits in 1941, as I am sure the recruits today have it much easier than I had it........everything now has to be politically correct........a DI is limited to what he can do today as opposed to 40 years ago, or 80 years ago...........My Corps is going to hell along with everything else.......
    F#ck, I bet a TI/DI, couldn't yell at a recruit, and say he/she was a "worthless piece of shit", if the TI/DI had a mouthful himself/herself. I'd love to go back to where it all started for me and see/hear how Basic is for this new generation of recruits. I bet it would be a hoot.
    My first morning of Basic, was a REAL eye opener for me. I'm sure a TI of today, would NOT be able to get away with what mine did to me that first morning. Hint: I got flipped out of my bunk and asked if "I needed a personal F'n invitation to get out of F'n bed!", all the while that steel bunk was laying across my neck and back. I will admit, I was hung-over and he was VERY loud. Mac🤢
     
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    All I had to do was stand in front of locker #2 to be singled out for first slamming into the locker.

    I was in pretty good shape and the lockers were thin so it didn't hurt just made a lot of noise.

    I just took it in silence didn't seem like he was actually trying to hurt me.

    Three lockers down someone chuckled, mistake. They got put on the floor kicked in the ass and had to do 50 pushups.

    The DI walked back to the front and asked what the fuck I was smiling about. I told him that stupid mother fucker down there.

    He almost broke into a smile.
    He pt-ed us till chow.

    If I remember right he broke 3 and had one med setback the rest made it.

    Both my sons endured way more than I had to. But it seems now everyone gets a participation ribbon?
     
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    NO it would NOT!

    Our wars would be shorter and the resistance to getting in them would be huge.

    People would have skin in the game.

    Right now most people don't care because they may not know anyone in the military.

    You can bet Moms and Dads of the world will demand ROE that get their kids home as quickly as possible.

    "Saves a goat, Spare the artillery".......not happening.

    Pols kids have to go to......Infantry.
     

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    I have no beef with hydroxychloroquine. I do, however, have major issues with people who do not understand fractions.

    To increase something by 200% is to increase it by a factor of 3. If we take the survival rate of Covid to be a nominal 99% (and please for the live of all that is holy I pray that no one starts a separate argument on this number), then HCQ would improve the survival rate to 297%. If indeed that was the case, then yeah, we've really harmed mankind by restricting the use of this drug.

    I believe whomever wrote that headline (and it's usually not the author, so I won't shit on her) meant to say is that it cuts the death rate by a factor of three. Which is still pretty damn remarkable if true. It's even more remarkable for those who believe that the disease isn't real.

    On a broader note, Daily Mail has been pilled or based or whatever stupid shit we're supposed to say to imply some generally anti-left bias. Something's up.

    Daily Mail is not based. Their shit swings both ways and is done so to entertain both sides.

    Often the reporting sucks, as if written by a 5 year old, but if you look you can see both sides.

    Where they shocked me was "local interest" stories. There was a heinous murder in my state, nothing national let alone international, and they had better reporting than local news. Victim was an attractive female and the crime was graphic - typical crime reporting of salacious shit to attract readers.
     
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    I was a 26 year old recruit in Marine Corps boot camp 40 years ago...........I am sure my boot camp was much easier than the recruits in 1941, as I am sure the recruits today have it much easier than I had it........everything now has to be politically correct........a DI is limited to what he can do today as opposed to 40 years ago, or 80 years ago...........My Corps is going to hell along with everything else.......

    I disagree with you thought that Boot was harder in WWII than it was 1980.

    What I find in reading is that circa 1940 recruits were expected to be mature and for the most part it seems they were more "advanced" than their peers today.

    Helicopter Parenting has incrementally progressed. No longer are peeps getting married at 19, homeowners by 25.

    Kids now stay on the parents insurance to 26, living in the basement in their 30s.

    A lot of those 1940 kids had lived through the depression and likely worked in a CCC camp. DIs may have had to beat some wise ass out of them but they didn't have to teach "survival" basics.

    Take how much liberty peeps had with weapons than, no central armory, rifles in the barracks. You PCS your rifle goes on the train with you.

    26yo recruit?........that's Scribe territory.
     
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