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Sad reality is also that this is one of the reasons the 2A has remained. Very wealthy people have spent large sums of money trying to buy and head off some restrictions, but that only goes so far and politicians are a greedy bunch so...not to mention not all younger generations of certain families care as much about the 2A as their pops did. This is why we must must work with kids and teach the next generation.
 
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BlackRock was a good hit though. This company is toxic to America. Its buying up tons of residential housing well over asking prices to turn them into rentals. Supposedly 25% of housing in Houston is bought up by companies like this. Only if the protesters would have burned their buildings. Dang.

As far as the rest of the protest goes, I despise anyone who lives in this country and has loyalties to another. This includes these people. It includes the jews loyal to Israel. It includes Mexicans and central Americans. it includes anyone born here that doesn’t put this country and its people first and foremost.


"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

-Theodore Roosevelt
 
This is all true, and the reporting on each was a total disgrace.

My only question is that there seems to be a disconnect between Trump and MAGA on the vaccine. Is there an accepted explanation for this? He seems to think it was one of his greatest accomplishments.
I don't think there is any disconnect. Most Trump supporters would agree, what his administration accomplished in getting the vaccine from concept to market in that short amount of time was incredible and was one of his greatest accomplishments as a leader. Where I believe MAGA objects is requiring people to get the vaccine to participate in society, which is being driven by the current administration.
 
I don't think there is any disconnect. Most Trump supporters would agree, what his administration accomplished in getting the vaccine from concept to market in that short amount of time was incredible and was one of his greatest accomplishments as a leader. Where I believe MAGA objects is requiring people to get the vaccine to participate in society, which is being driven by the current administration.

That's a fine and reasonable position to take - no cognitive dissonance required. Furthermore, one can also look at the resultant data and suggest that these vaccines have a risk profile that suggests they are not suitable for everyone. Want to inject every nursing home resident? Probably not a bad idea! But don't go jabbing perfectly healthy adolescents.

What's fucking stupid is people running around sticking coins and keys to their skin in an attempt to prove that they've been injected with magnetic nanoparticles or whatever the claim is (hint: brass and copper are not magnetic). Also, I chuckle every time someone who previously disregarded .gov statistics as unreliable or fraudulent now decides to start dropping VAERS numbers into every conversation.

Whatever. Make your own health decisions and move on with life. If you live in an area requiring "vaccination passports" or whatever, move somewhere else, because there's probably already a host of other reasons that you should seek freedom.
 
I suppose I'll get roasted for this but, I don't really care if the vaccine is safe or not. I'm not going to take it just to see and hear all the crying from those that damand I take it. It's funny.

That's fine. I think it's an incredibly dumb reason not to get vaccinated when there are much better ones to justify the same conclusion, but that's your call to make. I suspect you'll get more high-fives from this crowd than if you used some sort of nerdy approach like risk-reward analysis.
 
They don't have any business injecting anyone with an experimental treatment that does not understand, it may not be safe, and it may not work, and COVID may not be dangerous, and odds are the "pandemic" was winding down in March before "two weeks to flatten the curve."

As long as they are telling people the whole story. They can get injected with whatever crazy shit they want. Considering the only people I know that died from the COVID actually died from other things, Cancer, dementia, old age, and never had a single symptom, and my 99 year old grandma survived it, also without a single symptom, I would not drink a cup of cool aide to protect from this fake ass threat.

For me, and my community we will go about life as normal, like we have been for almost 9 months now. For you still locked in your homes, you can either take your freedom back, or you can wait forever, because your rulers are not giving up this new found power to scare you into your hobbit hole. Freedom in not predicated on if the government says it is safe to be free.
 
That's a fine and reasonable position to take - no cognitive dissonance required. Furthermore, one can also look at the resultant data and suggest that these vaccines have a risk profile that suggests they are not suitable for everyone. Want to inject every nursing home resident? Probably not a bad idea! But don't go jabbing perfectly healthy adolescents.

What's fucking stupid is people running around sticking coins and keys to their skin in an attempt to prove that they've been injected with magnetic nanoparticles or whatever the claim is (hint: brass and copper are not magnetic). Also, I chuckle every time someone who previously disregarded .gov statistics as unreliable or fraudulent now decides to start dropping VAERS numbers into every conversation.

Whatever. Make your own health decisions and move on with life. If you live in an area requiring "vaccination passports" or whatever, move somewhere else, because there's probably already a host of other reasons that you should seek freedom.

I'm not saying they implanted anything but it wouldn't be difficult for them if they wanted to.

 
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Ruh Ro!


He was suicided. Amazing isn't it? How can anyone think that this guy at 45 is going to kill himself like all the others who have gone up against the Clintons.

The Gambino family has nothing on the Clintons.
 
The real viral pandemic is all the clowns moving out of the areas they destroyed and infecting smaller cities and rural areas.
I see more and more kali plates around "these here parts" and it's starting to piss me off. Same with Oregon. Sure, there are conservative places in those two states but I'll face the fact that most are probably from LA and Portland; bringing their bullshit with them.
 
I already replied to you.

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I don't think there is any disconnect. Most Trump supporters would agree, what his administration accomplished in getting the vaccine from concept to market in that short amount of time was incredible and was one of his greatest accomplishments as a leader. Where I believe MAGA objects is requiring people to get the vaccine to participate in society, which is being driven by the current administration.
I think that is a fair position, but it isn't the position I am seeing taken around these parts and others. Rather it is all about the fake vaccine for the fake virus, how it kills more people than the virus, which apparently only killed people if we are discussing Fauci. And it is another one of those things where the internet becomes full of vaccine specialists, just like it does maritime lawyers when there is a pirate incident. Most of what is supposed to pass as deep thought is just unbelievable nonsense, from the comparison of vaccine timelines in one era to another without regard to technological changes, to the more insane theories which are too numerous to list.

I do agree with you that the idea that people should be forced to get the vaccine is terrible, but you have to understand that this is an issue divorced completely from the vaccine qua vaccine. Them having bad policy intentions does not change, even one iota, what is actually in the syringe. Personally, I've not really encountered anybody trying to force feed the vaccine, but as @E. Bryant said, if you are in an area where they are doing that, leave as fast as you can. I have talked to people who believe that everybody who does not get the vaccine is a mouthbreather who deserves to die, and likewise, I've read enough comments on here tilted in the other direction, equally nuts. Personally, I think the people acting either way are cancerous for society. Now, this is not about people discussing whether it is smart to take it or not, just the ones denigrating, or worse harassing, others for their decision, because the decision is personal, and should be kept that way.
 
I'm not saying they implanted anything but it wouldn't be difficult for them if they wanted to.


I'm not taking about microchip implants or anything of the sort. No, this is about the mouthbreathers who stick a car key or coin against their clammy skin and claim that the vaccine has made them magnetic:



Before anyone else jumps in with a story about their mother-in-law or whomever, please first ask yourself, "is the object in question magnetic?" If the answer is "no", then we probably can skip any further conversation on Maxwell's equations.

As for me, this is the most convincing case I've heard:

 
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I'm not taking about microchip implants or anything of the sort. No, this is about the mouthbreathers who stick a car key or coin against their clammy skin and claim that the vaccine has made them magnetic:



Before anyone else jumps in with a story about their mother-in-law or whomever, please first ask yourself, "is the object in question magnetic?" If the answer is "no", then we probably can skip any further conversation on Maxwell's equations.

As for me, this is the most convincing case I've heard:


Yikes. I'd guess 100% chance of her being a cat rancher.
 
I'm not taking about microchip implants or anything of the sort. No, this is about the mouthbreathers who stick a car key or coin against their clammy skin and claim that the vaccine has made them magnetic:



Before anyone else jumps in with a story about their mother-in-law or whomever, please first ask yourself, "is the object in question magnetic?" If the answer is "no", then we probably can skip any further conversation on Maxwell's equations.

As for me, this is the most convincing case I've heard:



That dumb bitch is a plant to make people against gene therapy, look insane.
All most folks will remember, is her stupid ass when they start making gene therapy mandatory.
 
I'm not saying they implanted anything but it wouldn't be difficult for them if they wanted to.

The crazy thing about this new tech along with all the other tech that has arrived in the past couple decades like facebook, google, twitter, etc, is when it was being developed, they probably were doing it with noble intentions. In this case, the ability to monitor and improve health outcomes. Sadly and inevitably, at some point someone finds the ways to use the new tech for evil purposes. Sometimes its the inventor themselves and others its the government. For an 80's movie example check out Real Genius with Val Kilmer. Funny movie but totally applicable to this topic. Brilliant college kids working on a laser for the sake of the science when their asshole professor already has it sold to the military as a weapon.
 
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Every time I hear about another terrible nominee, I remember that Georgia Senate was winnable but for the insanity surrounding Lin Wood, Trump and others who didn't realize which game was lost, and which ball was live.
 
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The crazy thing about this new tech along with all the other tech that has arrived in the past couple decades like facebook, google, twitter, etc, is when it was being developed, they probably were doing it with noble intentions. In this case, the ability to monitor and improve health outcomes. Sadly and inevitably, at some point someone finds the ways to use the new tech for evil purposes. Sometimes its the inventor themselves and others its the government. For an 80's movie example check out Real Genius with Val Kilmer. Funny movie but totally applicable to this topic. Brilliant college kids working on a laser for the sake of the science when their asshole professor already has it sold to the military as a weapon.

Yes they are marketing it for health management but it could easily be turned for other more sinister uses. I believe the quote is " the path to hell is paved with good intentions".
 
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No valid reason...other than maybe securing their government pedo plant.
 
Every time I hear about another terrible nominee, I remember that Georgia Senate was winnable but for the insanity surrounding Lin Wood, Trump and others who didn't realize which game was lost, and which ball was live.
And Santa and the Easter Bunny are real. Elections are dead. You know it, but you pretend otherwise. You are the modern equivalent of Homers sirens. JMHO
 
And Santa and the Easter Bunny are real. Elections are dead. You know it, but you pretend otherwise. You are the modern equivalent of Homers sirens. JMHO
I know no such think, and neither do you. You suspect it. I am agnostic to it, mostly skeptical. Believing something, or wanting it to be true, is not knowing. The highest probability remains that Trump lost and people can't handle it.
 
Looks like a duck
Walks like a duck
Quacks like a duck
Dog shit says he's not sure. Well, because Trump and all.














Wait for it..... But I voted for him. If course that's only because he was the lesser of two evils.
Did the signal go out to the entire Red Guard, or only Mao's special members like yourself?
 
I know no such think, and neither do you. You suspect it. I am agnostic to it, mostly skeptical. Believing something, or wanting it to be true, is not knowing. The highest probability remains that Trump lost and people can't handle it.
I can’t see air but through deductive reasoning and logic I can pretty much say the probability is that it does exist. Without science that assumption can be made.

As I can use the same process to see a man who never left his basement got more votes than anyone in history. But only after counting was stopped and reality was suspended did that occur. Only an idiot or a man programmed by lies could think otherwise. There actually is a third choice, that be a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

I think you are a bit of all three. But mostly the third. I am the fool here, for arguing with a fool here. JMHO
 
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I can’t see air but through deductive reasoning and logic I can pretty much say the probability is that it does. Without science that assumption can be made.

As I can use the same process to see a man who never left his basement got more votes than anyone in history. But only after counting was stopped and reality was suspended did that occur. Only an idiot or a man programmed by lies could think otherwise. There actually is a third choice, that be a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

I think you are a bit of all three. But mostly the third. I am the fool here, for arguing with a fool here. JMHO
Explain this to me. If the election fraud were so pervasive and obvious that only a fool, a tool, or a wolf couldn't see it, then why did people spend so much time using easily debunked statistical proofs, testimony from charlatans and outright falsehoods to try to prove it? That's a big hurdle for me. I mean, it seems that if something were so obvious, then the people trying to prove it would have used good arguments, obvious acts and provable examples to show it. They would have produced the Kraken. Lin Wood would have shown his proof. But all we got were crap theories from crap people, and then an unending stream of innuendo and claims that if you don't know, you are an idiot.

So answer me. If the fraud were so provable, why did the proponents of the theory use such awful arguments to try to prove it? Seems counterproductive. If I had an important case to prove, I'd sure as hell put my best evidence up front.
 
Explain this to me. If the election fraud were so pervasive and obvious that only a fool, a tool, or a wolf couldn't see it, then why did people spend so much time using easily debunked statistical proofs, testimony from charlatans and outright falsehoods to try to prove it? That's a big hurdle for me. I mean, it seems that if something were so obvious, then the people trying to prove it would have used good arguments, obvious acts and provable examples to show it. They would have produced the Kraken. Lin Wood would have shown his proof. But all we got were crap theories from crap people, and then an unending stream of innuendo and claims that if you don't know, you are an idiot.

So answer me. If the fraud were so provable, why did the proponents of the theory use such awful arguments to try to prove it? Seems counterproductive. If I had an important case to prove, I'd sure as hell put my best evidence up front.
Gargle gargle bla bla I’m done with fools. And wolves.


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Explain this to me. If the election fraud were so pervasive and obvious that only a fool, a tool, or a wolf couldn't see it, then why did people spend so much time using easily debunked statistical proofs, testimony from charlatans and outright falsehoods to try to prove it? That's a big hurdle for me. I mean, it seems that if something were so obvious, then the people trying to prove it would have used good arguments, obvious acts and provable examples to show it. They would have produced the Kraken. Lin Wood would have shown his proof. But all we got were crap theories from crap people, and then an unending stream of innuendo and claims that if you don't know, you are an idiot.

So answer me. If the fraud were so provable, why did the proponents of the theory use such awful arguments to try to prove it? Seems counterproductive. If I had an important case to prove, I'd sure as hell put my best evidence up front.

It is difficult to prove fraud when you have a counter resistance in control that actively destroys or withholds evidence. If the election were more transparent the calls of fraud would not be as persistent. The election doesn't pass the stink test, evidence or not.
 
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It is difficult to prove fraud when you have a counter resistance in control that actively destroys or withholds evidence. If the election were more transparent the calls of fraud would not be as persistent. The election doesn't pass the stink test, evidence or not.
This is an honest answer. It is totally unconvincing, but it is honest.

But it doesn't answer my question. Why would you put forth evidence that is so easy to debunk if you were trying to prove your case? None of you see how problematic this is?
 
election fraud coverage is the same as wuhan flu origins. anyone that watches regular media is ignorant on the subject.

bringing up the kraken to discredit election fraud is like bringing up a pizza joint to discredit the idea that pedophilia is a big problem.

this is a left wing media tactic.
 
election fraud coverage is the same as wuhan flu origins. anyone that watches regular media is ignorant on the subject.

bringing up the kraken to discredit election fraud is like bringing up a pizza joint to discredit the idea that pedophilia is a big problem.

this is a left wing media tactic.
Well, you are right that the missing Kraken isn't proof that there was no election fraud. The point is that so much of the promised proof has been bullshit, which is why I have said let's see Arizona. It looks like the most reliable view into the claims of fraud.

But my point in bringing up the Kraken is that it, along with the shitty statistical analysis, the dude who didn't hack the voting machine through the heater and the woman who worked as a cleaning lady for dominion and the Sidney Powell's computer guy who turned out to be a fraud. Any reasonable person would look at those things and wonder why, for such an important issue, those were the lead arguments. I don't see that as an unfair critique, or a left wing tactic.
 
It’s hard to present findings when evidence is destroyed and access denied by state officials, judges, and lawyers. This should be a transparent process with not one official fighting for it not to happen. It’s as simple as that Choid. I don’t have much faith in the process considering I believe the state legislatures allowed the election tampering in the first place. The first step is saying something is fishy and having enough people to say “lets look at this shit.” This is what those you mentioned got done.
chode ignores that fact that election officials with nothing to hide would not go to courts to stop an audit and hire defense lawyers.
some of the brightest people lack the basic common sense we would expect from average folks.
 
Well, you are right that the missing Kraken isn't proof that there was no election fraud. The point is that so much of the promised proof has been bullshit, which is why I have said let's see Arizona. It looks like the most reliable view into the claims of fraud.

But my point in bringing up the Kraken is that it, along with the shitty statistical analysis, the dude who didn't hack the voting machine through the heater and the woman who worked as a cleaning lady for dominion and the Sidney Powell's computer guy who turned out to be a fraud. Any reasonable person would look at those things and wonder why, for such an important issue, those were the lead arguments. I don't see that as an unfair critique, or a left wing tactic.
i don't think you even know what "the kraken" is or what it was supposed to be.
why don't you explain this as a baseline?

they have proof of outside connections to the election machines that officials claim were restricted to a lan (local area network).
your denials must be based on election official denials and left wing media propaganda, unless you have sources you have not cited.
 
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i don't think you even know what "the kraken" is or what it was supposed to be.
why don't you explain this as a baseline?

they have proof of outside connections to the election machines that officials claim were restricted to a lan network.
your denials must be based on election official denials and left wing media propaganda, unless you have sources you have not cited.
I don't think anybody knows what the Kraken is or was supposed to be. I think it was a publicity move by Sidney Powell.

As to outside connections to the election machines, I can't know or not know that. What I do know is that the guy with the heater didn't do what he said he was going to do. Honestly, 99% of what I have read about the election has been in this thread. I don't watch the news, my reading of the news tends to be technical and work related, and now that Drudge sucks, I don't get any of the fun stuff anymore.
 
I don't think anybody knows what the Kraken is or was supposed to be. I think it was a publicity move by Sidney Powell.

As to outside connections to the election machines, I can't know or not know that. What I do know is that the guy with the heater didn't do what he said he was going to do. Honestly, 99% of what I have read about the election has been in this thread. I don't watch the news, my reading of the news tends to be technical and work related, and now that Drudge sucks, I don't get any of the fun stuff anymore.
what heater? are you talking about a thermostat with internet connectivity?
again, you pick something to focus on that you believe the media has debonked, and ignore the bulk of evidence.
- multiple poll workers with >20 years of experience signed affidavits that they saw ballots that appeared "fake" they have never seen before.
- more "mail in ballots" were counted than were sent out in some of the swing states.
- stacks of ballots with 98% biden votes? in what world?
 
anyway, i believe "the kraken" is a reference to a multitude of .gov data collection tools, the hammer and other systems we know about thanks to wikileaks and snowden. basically all traffic is collected and it is just a matter of knowing what you want to look at.
powell and wood seemed to be under some delusion that .gov was going to help them uncover the election fraud.
using them as your reasoning for calling the election clean and valid is the act of a raving dickweed.
sorry chode, that is your choice.

the thing is, private parties in the public sphere can also sniff and log traffic, and while they don't have the resources and bandwidth that .gov has to collect virtually everything and the power to go back and filter what they want in a reasonable time (remember i do legal discovery against huge data sources for work), they can access the same wan traffic.
lucky for us, some of these network spooks decided to log traffic related to the election, so the pillow guy doesn't need .gov.
this is what we are supposed to see in court shortly.
 
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