Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

Constitutional representative republics mute the democratic demagoguery enough to keep the project alive for longer, but there has never been a democracy that lasted very long in the world. John Adams said, "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

That may still be some of us, but we're not nearly as many as we were, and we're certainly not a majority now. But we're hanging on, and the tides changed in 2016, so perhaps this is yet salvageable.
for the sake of my grands and gr grands,i hope you are right. not a bet i would take,even at odds. the frustrating thing is being powerless to affect the outcome. voting harder,expressing opinions and protesting haven't worked and won't.
 
Pretty solid take on things. Looks like it was a chest hit on metal plates and bullet then fragmented/hit him in neck creating large entrance wound??

**Edit, others have posted pics that clearly show he's not wearing any plates


Interesting...
About 18years ago, I sat on a Grand Jury listening to case about a local Police officer who was shot and killed chasing a armed robbery suspect. The suspect shot at the officer, hitting him on the top of his protective vest. The bullet deflected up, entering the neck.
Those were some disturbing pictures.
 
that is right the mex army with attached cartel brigades would over run the SW. BTW there are many cartel fighting units and individuals already here. the Chinese or Russians next? likely as our military would be in pieces and distracted. the question is would that be a worse outcome than the end point of what is happening and has been for years? can western civ survive what is? Europe is gone except for those countries that can line up with Russia in some way. what is the answer?
The winds of change, they are a’coming.
 
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Kirk's wife to make 1st public statements since his death​

Erika Kirk will "address the nation" at 8:15 p.m. ET to make her first public comments since her husband was killed.
Her remarks will be broadcast live on Turning Point USA's YouTube and social media channels, the organization said in a news release.
 
Laughing, Tell me you don't know how a game is ran on the American people, w/o telling how they are ran.

Karen, as I often do, I already pointed out that comment of yours as the usual bait for your passive-aggressive excretions- so it's funny that you always have to be reminded that I closed you out with it. You're so easy, Karen!
 
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Several members contributing comments in this thread will find this guy's information beneficial. It will ring true with what you already know but mainly will remind people to not get wound around the axle and start acting and reacting based on emotion. They are specifically manipulating and subtly nudging the behavior of the masses.



This second video covers well published standard psyop procedures that you can instantly recognize as being flooded into our society.




Excellent.... needs to be mandatory watching for everyone.
 

I'm not buying everything he says. There are a lot of crazy people that look perfectly normal.

So some of our neighbors, are very crazy and some don't show it.

He's correct that a psyop plan is being carried out. The crazies on the left have been subjected to it for decades in the institutions of learning and on the media.

You don't hear conservatives promoting violence on their opponents. The left does that.

So while, there aren't many crazy lefties that wear pink hair and adorn themselves with metallic facial ornaments, you can tell who they are by what they say and do.

The real dangerous ones are the ones who keep quiet.

So I'm call BS on most of what he just said.
 
Purportedly 2017 Halloween from his moms FB page.

Supposedly, he is riding Trump and his brother is “Trump hunting”…..

These parents have been cooking.

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Utah Oct 2017 is a more complex political environment than you might expect, I would try not to draw too many conclusions from this. The Democratic Socialists of America membership and helldivers case markings are a different story.
 
Several members contributing comments in this thread will find this guy's information beneficial. It will ring true with what you already know but mainly will remind people to not get wound around the axle and start acting and reacting based on emotion. They are specifically manipulating and subtly nudging the behavior of the masses.



This second video covers well published standard psyop procedures that you can instantly recognize as being flooded into our society.


He makes valid points but our current battlefield is a whole lot more complicated than his scenario of some backroom elites manipulating a fictitious left and right. That may have been valid 20 years ago, pre-MAGA.

Sure we have the RINOS and a few moderate dems that are two wings of the same bird. The marxist are their own camp with a small overlap in left agenda goals. Then there is the deep state where you can ask whether the DNC controls the deep state or the other way around. Also the globalist, backroom elites sponsor predominantly the anti-American anti-Christian left. The deep state does not need sponsors as they can print money or steal it via taxes.

If you want to keep it simple, call it MAGA vs the rest where "the rest" is several groups not necessarily perfectly aligned in their goals.

I agree with one thing however. While your neighbor may have repulsive and retarded views as a result of constant brainwashing and low-resolution thinking (most people can barely understand their job) it is not worth directing your hate against another pawn on the chessboard. Our typical phrase here that "You can't hate the media enough" is the more effective route.
 
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He makes valid points but our current battlefield is a whole lot more complicated than his scenario of some backroom elites manipulating a fictitious left and right. That may have been valid 20 years ago, pre-MAGA.
Likely true but the methodology and manipulation paths are the same.
People will always be people.
Leveraging basic psychology and sociology.

Only the delivery mechanism will change with time.

Sure we have the RINOS and a few moderate dems that are two wings of the same bird. The marxist are their own camp with a small overlap in left agenda goals. Then there is the deep state where you can ask whether the DNC controls the deep state or the other way around. Also the globalist, backroom elites sponsor predominantly the anti-American anti-Christian left. The deep state does not need sponsors as they can print money or steal it via taxes.

If you want to keep it simple, call it MAGA vs the rest where "the rest" is several groups not necessarily perfectly aligned in their goals.
Pretty much.
Same type of tumor, just larger and more tentacles.

The increase in scale and complexity of layers will make it much more difficult to ascertain and counter the actual source.
 
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If you're still blithering about Israel and the Jews, especially with what we know now, you're either irretrievably stupid or just desperate for a reason to hate a group of people you want to blame.

Get your head on straight and get real. This is embarrassing.
You must be new.
 
Seriously? Nothing like $100k a year in tax money being spent to give this cocksucker food, bed, heat, air conditioning, and cable tv. Fuck him.

And "life in prison" is pretty easily ended with a presidential pardon. You think the next Dem that wins wouldn't sign that paper?
I already sent my resume to the Gov of Utah and want to be on the firing squad detail. I explained i would be willing to be the only one and need not have a clear conscience so no need to load blanks.
 
I agree with this. I am prepared to forgive, and to have a calm, quiet, sincere conversation with the guilty, urging him to seek eternal peace before it is too late.

Then, as the lawful arm of the impersonal state, serving justice, I am prepared to pull the trigger or flip the switch on the guy and not feel a second of regret.

Blood must pay for blood is the oldest law in human history. We do not do well to forget that this has been a universal human value until recently...right about when our society began to collapse. Public and shocking? Even better. Those who watch the horror of the moment of death for the evildoer do not soon forget that moment. That image in their memory would serve as quite an effective deterrent.

For those malfunctioning enough to be suicidally homicidal, well, I think we should never have abandoned the formal institutionalization process for the mentally ill. Releasing them to the public with instructions to routinely take their medication is asinine, and the vast majority of violent mentally ill offenders I have ever dealt with were not first-timers; they were known and had been repeatedly allowed back into society.
My mother had a simpler way of stating it.

And I quote, "May God have mercy on your soul. I will not."

She knew her limitations, one of them being not easily granting forgiveness. So, she would leave that part to God.
 
I already sent my resume to the Gov of Utah and want to be on the firing squad detail. I explained i would be willing to be the only one and need not have a clear conscience so no need to load blanks.
In my mind, I am already in line but I will save you a place.

Seriously, though, I read the charges are aggravated murder, rather than capital murder. So, I don't know if Utah allows the death penalty in aggravated murder charges. And I get it, agg murder is more likely to stick with even a grand jury than capital murder because it could be argued that the suspect is unhinged. And Kirk was not a member of a government entity.
 
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Several members contributing comments in this thread will find this guy's information beneficial. It will ring true with what you already know but mainly will remind people to not get wound around the axle and start acting and reacting based on emotion. They are specifically manipulating and subtly nudging the behavior of the masses.



This second video covers well published standard psyop procedures that you can instantly recognize as being flooded into our society.


Thanks Terry. I've known those things for some time but the manipulations can tend to overcome them. I've said for years that emotions are a trap and best avoided. I get called cold for that. Christ said, I would that you be hot or cold but if yore luke warm I'll spew you out (vomit). I've always found the cold, analytical side to be a better approach for me. In fact I detest, and avoid being around emotional people. one reason I rarely post here in the Bear Pit anymore. too much hate, and hate destroys the soul and spirit. I have a bit ofinteresting info but wont post it publically as I'm not nterested in being attacked and ridiculed. I will share it in a PM.

We all got sucked in on this one, they played on our hearts and faith. Thats what religion does. Not TRUTH, but religion. Truth is nuetral. I wonder just how deep down the rabbit hole this goes. It certainly shifted the energy off Trum and the mid east and gave him a lot more control. Trouble is, it wont last long, and like a junkie, they'll need to offer another 'fix' for the masses emotions. Keep them stirred up. I notice one person, right after Sam reposted your vids, one member denying it all, and you could see in his denial he was had.

Moving on-

So, when Charlie's death wears out, what will be the next fix?
 
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I heard the same.

I am a bit jaded, so I never believe what I read until other sources corroborate it.

Something went wrong somewhere
That "something went wrong" is that the demonstrated ability of marxist to brainwash entire countries also includes their capability to completely brainwash individuals.

Does the flag shown here look familiar?
 
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If you're still blithering about Israel and the Jews, especially with what we know now, you're either irretrievably stupid or just desperate for a reason to hate a group of people you want to blame.

Get your head on straight and get real. This is embarrassing.
If you know anything about gun shot wounds you wouldn’t be surprised his carotid was opened up. You must have missed his post about the Nazis yesterday.

The general you for the first part, not you personally