Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

There is an oncologist at my Tuesday night horse shoes, who said, something to the effect of, Charlie Kirk spouted a lot of hate. He admitted that he had never heard of him before he was assassinated, and when I told him he was dead wrong he said, "Well, agree to disagree".

I've known this guy for years. He's not a bad guy at all. He's not very political, and he's not paying attention to the news. He is just ignorant, and he is trusting someone who is untrustworthy to describe reality for him. THAT is the main problem. I hunt and fish with a bunch of winder hangers. The one guy is a third generation glazer. They're Democrats. They hate Trump, but talking to them or hanging out with them you would never ever know, because they are no different than we are. They've just been programed by their union that they can't vote any other way or it will be the apocalypse for their business, and after three generations it is pretty deeply ingrained. That said, pick any issue or current event, and they will be right there with you as a normal, thinking, human being. There is an ignorance on the left that is just astounding, and it's mostly for people who are disengaged but believe the propaganda of leftist fanatics who pretend to deliver news.
I've found so much the same thing. Most of us are decent people, many just ignorant of deceived. Its a small minority that do the dirty shit. But that tends to be true on every side. Conservatives are not immune to stupidity and ignorance.

Like you, I dont know the fix, but Charlie's asassination woke up a lot of them. I'm just wondering what the (truly evil) dark sides counter move will be. @Gunfighter14e2 and I have discussed this in PM. It will be large, and soon, they cant let this new found goodness live and grow. Be ready.
 

Benz is really smart and has immersed himself in US/World politics. He seems to be at least attempting to critically think and seems to not be taking sides. He keeps throwing facts out that he backs up pretty well.

I hope he is being realistic with his own security and well being because I'm positive he is steadily pissing off a bunch of people in power.
 

From one of the comments about Starmer below that X post.
This Tommy Robinson person is not wrong in his comment.

The UK is doing some backward ass governing right now. It's almost like they are trying to purposefully disintegrate their own culture and doom their own bloodlines to extinction.

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What is interesting and educational to me is that even if the suspect is not the guy but a patsy, none of the dark agents, handlers, whatever, can produce and cause the evil expressed by people celebrating the murder of Charlie and anyone like, which is ya'll and me.

Simply put, they do not like what we say and if you were to ask them what they would have us do, their reply would be like that of the alien in "Independence Day."

"What would you have us do?"

"Die."
 
Most of us are decent people, many just ignorant of or deceived.
Agreed.
Frustrating that so many can be deceived so easily.
Is their willing ignorance and lack of critical thinking just a byproduct of our society's newfound dependence on smart phones and instant news manipulation?

Its a small minority that do the dirty shit. But that tends to be true on every side.
That is always the case with all facets of any dirty shit that affects major change.
A small minority of men do the majority of killing in battle for instance.

But when it's easy and the benefit is generous, everybody will belly up to the trough.

Conservatives are not immune to stupidity and ignorance.
100%
At least half of our problem is divided between our own right of center people being stupid and the left manufacturing outlandish events or statements that are crafted to appear as if they come from us.
I'm just wondering what the (truly evil) dark sides counter move will be. . . . . . . . It will be large, and soon, they cant let this new found goodness live and grow.
Guaranteed. As mentioned multiple times before, this is a spiritual war and the side of evil will not be packing up their kit and going home.

Borrowing a parallel from a popular SciFi story, our enemy is like the Borg. They will assimilate, learn and morph into whatever form they think we will be most vulnerable to. (*The great deceiver.)

Be ready.
Easier said than done.
Maybe try to remain aware but not paranoid to the point of not living our lives.

We need to be careful about designating a person or group as the enemy if their views do not perfectly align with our own.
There will be a HUGE middle group that we should look at as opportunities to enlighten and show an open door to by our own examples. We can either consolidate our side with like minded allies or we can tag them as the enemy which would be a self fulfilling prophesy when they have no other path but the Dark one.
 
Agreed.
Frustrating that so many can be deceived so easily.
Is their willing ignorance and lack of critical thinking just a byproduct of our society's newfound dependence on smart phones and instant news manipulation?


That is always the case with all facets of any dirty shit that affects major change.
A small minority of men do the majority of killing in battle for instance.

But when it's easy and the benefit is generous, everybody will belly up to the trough.


100%
At least half of our problem is divided between our own right of center people being stupid and the left manufacturing outlandish events or statements that are crafted to appear as if they come from us.

Guaranteed. As mentioned multiple times before, this is a spiritual war and the side of evil will not be packing up their kit and going home.

Borrowing a parallel from a popular SciFi story, our enemy is like the Borg. They will assimilate, learn and morph into whatever form they think we will be most vulnerable to. (*The great deceiver.)


Easier said than done.
Maybe try to remain aware but not paranoid to the point of not living our lives.

We need to be careful about designating a person or group as the enemy if their views do not perfectly align with our own.
There will be a HUGE middle group that we should look at as opportunities to enlighten and show an open door to by our own examples. We can either consolidate our side with like minded allies or we can tag them as the enemy which would be a self fulfilling prophesy when they have no other path but the Dark one.
Youre so correct, its a war in the spirit. "For we wrestle not ...etc."

A good, not perfect, standard for determining those who may be redeemable, convertable (choose an adjetive) is in the eyes.

Matthew 6:22-23

King James Version

22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

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Look at the eyes of Manson, Gacey, any of the sicko's. The light in their eyes is out, dead. The soul is unredeemable. I've only found 3 ways to deal with it, in order of the best action.

1-If you know that you have the power, and protection of the Holy Spirit, command the demonic force to depart. "In the power of the Holy Spirit, and the authority of Almighty God, granted me by Jesus, the Christ, I COMMAND you demon, depart to dry places."

But dont fuck with that shit unless you know that you know what your're doing. As in the Bible, if you dont, that sumbitch can leave and come on you.

2-Run like a mofo.

3- Blast them back to Satan which may have legal consequences.

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The UK is doing some backward ass governing right now. It's almost like they are trying to purposefully disintegrate their own culture and doom their own bloodlines to extinction.

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...reminded me of this "meme" that rings even more true today in the so-called United Kingdom, now little more than a conquered nation.


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I'm going to reject your wordsmithing and stick with the original context, sir. :)

Mine choice more closely represents the truth, as your choice of words make it seem like it was an act of Parliament or something voluntary; instead, they were invaded, their women were r@ped, and their coffers plundered as spoils of the cultural war as native-born residents were barbarically driven into submission. Like France, they are a conquered people.

BUT...I'll meet you in the middle in the spirit of compromise, as they did bring most of this shit on themselves. Touche.
 
I'm going to reject your wordsmithing and stick with the original context, sir. :)

Mine choice more closely represents the truth, as your choice of words make it seem like it was an act of Parliament or something voluntary; instead, they were invaded, their women were r@ped, and their coffers plundered as spoils of the cultural war as native-born residents were barbarically driven into submission. Like France, they are a conquered people.

BUT...I'll meet you in the middle in the spirit of compromise, as they did bring most of this shit on themselves. Touche.
(y) Fair enough, but I used the word surrendered because they did nothing to stop it. If youre attacked and dont fight back, they didnt really win, you surrendered. A simple limit on immigration would have stopped, or at least delayed it.
 
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(y) Fair enough, but I used the word surrendered because they did nothing to stop it. If youre attacked and dont fight back, they didnt really win, you surrendered. A simple limit on immigration would have stopped, or at least delayed it.

Iirc a liberal Jewish politician was the one who authored the bill making immigration quotas illegal.
 
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Wait so they stopped the person defacing the mural?
I know it sounds kind of fucked up

It is a public graffiti area. Nobody owns it, technically you can be out there painting and some one can come out and just cover up your painting.

 
Maybe Trump finally identifying Antifa as a terror organization will force the FBLies hand to actually do their job for once.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...iolent-organized-national-activity-of-antifa/
The Bureau was started by old Mafia from the late 1800s and Progressive Era opportunists in 1908. The Irish booze mobsters were opposed to it until they had a talking to by assets working on-behalf of AG Bonaparte, or Bonaparte himself. John Fitzgerald and Irish boozer, was one of the main opponents to the AG creating a Federal secret police force. After he was talked to, he flipped his vote in favor.

The Soviets quickly seeded it with moles in the early 1900s, especially after Russian Jew Meyer Lansky shared the compromising details and photos of Director J.Edgar Hoover and his live-in husband Clyde Tolson, engaged in sodomy. Decades later, CIA Director of counterintelligence showed these carefully-guarded photos to people in the inner sanctum, to build solidarity and demonstrate trust.

In the 1960s, the FBI’s COINTELPRO was used to agitate the populace by attacking “civil rights” groups, which Marxist agitators also controlled from within. Look at how many provocateurs were managing Martin Luther King Jr., for example. ADL, prominent Kabbalistic leaders, leftists, and anti-war protestors. This played right into the hands of the Marxists and Soviets, who were doing everything in their power to divide the US from within.

The FBI and other Federal institutions, along with the universities where leaders are expected to get their degrees, have been infested with over 150 years of Marxism and “Progressivism".

A simple change of the Director can’t erase 117 years of history, so there is institutional resistance to White Houses that come and go, while the Bureau does its own thing decade-after-decade.
 
It sounds like those guys are the heroes because the “victim” wanted to spray over the Kirk mural.
Not by the letter of the law, but anybody with some common decency would at least allow the people that were out there trying to conduct a vigil to finish before they went and did that
 
Iirc a liberal Jewish politician was the one who authored the bill making immigration quotas illegal.
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Oh my God!!!!

Youre going to get angried.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

On a serious note, I'll bet he has a nice safe space in Switzerland to go hide in when it goes down. I bet a lot of Brits are beginning to get really nervous.
 
On a serious note, I'll bet he has a nice safe space in Switzerland to go hide in when it goes down. I bet a lot of Brits are beginning to get really nervous.
Honestly, I think most just return to the Mothership, not Switzerland— when the jig is up...safer passage:

(linking AlJazeera as a literary device 😇 )



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Honestly, I think most just return to the Mothership, not Switzerland— when the jig is up...safer passage:

(linking AlJazeera as a literary device 😇 )



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Well, Switzerland worked for roman polanski for quite a while. He finally moved from there to France. Dunno if the Swiss "encouraged" him to leave, or what.......
 
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I just don't have any idea what you're arguing. Are you actually arguing that businesses should be able to discriminate based on race, religion, age, gender, etc.? That just seems like a really weird thing to be advocating in 2025.
i guess you are a "modern" liberal man who loves his gov and all it's intrusive machinations. the gov,any gov, should protect it's citizen's life ,liberty and property from force or fraud. sanctioning non violent,non fraudulent,non destructive,non distruptive behavior is not a legit gov affair. putting "correct" thinking under the force of law and forcing behavior consistent with the "correct" thinking is not a liberty supporting thing. doing stupid,mean,nonsensical things is counter productive in the real world but freedom to do so is freedom. rather common stuff people do. social pressure to do the "right" thing is a dif matter it's another freedom all should have.
like most liberal gov lovers you can't seem to get the diff between voluntary,stupid,counter productive actions and enforcement of the desired politically correct behavior. enforced by the lethal police power of the state. oh,and your lovable supreme court.
nobody in their right mind would try to deny their product or service to anyone based on the above factors. nobody does that i have seen in last 60 years or so. but,OMG,this is the beautiful modern world of 2025 where thinking and behavior are mandated by our wise and loving rulers.
try to do,think or say things that don't use force or fraud but are not approved by you rulers; they will imprison,impoverish or kill you.
sorry your heroine lost the election. maybe in '28?
 
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I think Erika Kirk should take it over, at least temporarily, until she can train up one of her kids to take it over, long haul. I think they are the only people I trust with this... the ones who knew his mindset, his ideology and his faith, so perfectly. I would not trust anyone else with that responsibility. If nothing else, I hope Erika is directly involved in vetting/selecting his successor, until one of the kids can take it over.

Well, whaddya know? Newsmax just reported that Erika KIrk has been elected (unanimously) Chair/CEO of Turning Point, USA! And they say it's what Charlie would have wanted. Like I say, I hope she stays with it until one of the kids can take over for her. Who knows? She might even start a trend....

President Baron Trump, perhaps? 🤠
 

if even 1/2 of the blacks and 1/2 of the Hispanics get on this road,there might be a chance. seems like a lot of women have come around. still got to deal with the deranged far lt whites of both sexes.
Charlie had to go. he was resonating with the 2 younger gens-the future of the society. that danger was understood and acted on. if not when it was,it likely was going to happen in the nearer future.
converting silents,boomers,X,even millennials is likely a non starter either way. those people likely have their beliefs and thinking pretty well set.
Charlie was working on the young,the future. he was 1 of the few on the right that had that in progress. a genius move which made him a danger.
 
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yes, the 'victim' had spray paint and was trying to paint over the mural WHILE the service was still going.
Grow sprayed the 'victim' to stop him. Grow is NOW facing charges STOPPING the mofo (aka 'victim') that was interrupting the service.
Pretty bold to attempt to interrupt a service like that, almost like someone was tempting a response that could change the message.
 
Well, whaddya know? Newsmax just reported that Erika KIrk has been elected (unanimously) Chair/CEO of Turning Point, USA! And they say it's what Charlie would have wanted. Like I say, I hope she stays with it until one of the kids can take over for her. Who knows? She might even start a trend....

President Baron Trump, perhaps? 🤠
you are suggesting sort of a hereditary monarchy? actually not such a bad idea. liberal democracy is not for all times and places. we are a pretty rotten example. monarchy problem is the need to find one that would need to be smart,honest,perceptive,brave and in societal context. the Brits have fucked that all up. having a hard time thinking of any since Charles Martel or maybe Bolivar? prob some in Asia i don't know about. i can actually think of a few living here now-Sowell,Thomas,Alito,Ron Paul? maybe Ike or Charlie?
just to bug you my top 2 picks are black.
 
you are suggesting sort of a hereditary monarchy? actually not such a bad idea. liberal democracy is not for all times and places. we are a pretty rotten example. monarchy problem is the need to find one that would need to be smart,honest,perceptive,brave and in societal context. the Brits have fucked that all up. having a hard time thinking of any since Charles Martel or maybe Bolivar? prob some in Asia i don't know about. i can actually think of a few living here now-Sowell,Thomas,Alito,Ron Paul? maybe Ike or Charlie?
just to bug you my top 2 picks are black.

That doesn't bother me at all! Funny, I am reminded of this Bugs Bunny Cartoon called "Knight-Mare Hare." Here's a clip from it (Not sure if the dialogue at hand is in it but....)...



The critical dialogue being the list of Bugs' friends in this dialogue....

Knight: "I naive, am Sir O of K, Earl of Watercress, 'Sir-O-Sis of the Liver,' Knight of the Garter (points to his leg showing a strap), and Baron of Worstershcistershistershtiershire,,,"

Bugs: Really? Well, look pressure cooker, I bet you know a lot of my friends, like "Duke of Ellington," "Count of Basie," "Earl of Hines," "Cab of Calloway," "Satchmo of Armstrong....

Knight: "Upstarts and Rouges.... never hear of them!"

Bugs: "ROUGES EH? UPSTARTS EH? LOOK, Sir Rubber Figs... Don't go around insulting my friends. Or i shall get me a can opener and open thee up like a can of SOLID---PACKED---TOMAHHTOES!"

Intentional or not, Bugs was making quite the profound civil rights/DEI statement!
 
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