Yes, In fact they were the first state to bring it back in the 1970's when they gave Gary Gilmore the firing squad.
So... yeah!
Sirhr
Someone shot Charlie Kirk
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Yes, In fact they were the first state to bring it back in the 1970's when they gave Gary Gilmore the firing squad.
So... yeah!
Sirhr
Leftists already out in celebration.
Actually just overheard one woman exclaim “Good! He got what he deserved! Today is a good day!”
This is what we’re dealing with. Leftists are mentally defective.
Actually just overheard one woman exclaim “Good! He got what he deserved! Today is a good day!”
This is what we’re dealing with. Leftists are mentally defective.
Some of the reports are that he was stable at the hospital.
I call bullshit.
Even if they could have stopped his blood loss (impossible), I don't think there was anything salvageable in his upper torso to work with.
I really, really, really would love to be wrong.
I with you--I hope and pray he pulls through. We can be surly bunch. Hell hath no fury like a united pit though.
Quick Clot, direct pressure across the chest to the opposite armpit could control the bleeding until you get to Level 1 Trauma center, where vascular surgeons can do their thing.
There was an SF guy who was shot like that on a JTF-6 mission in a surveillance position by a cartel member pretending to be a hunter.
Team Medic saved him and controlled the bleeding in a car on the way to the echelons of care. That was waaaay before Quick Clot.
There was an SF guy who was shot like that on a JTF-6 mission in a surveillance position by a cartel member pretending to be a hunter.
Team Medic saved him and controlled the bleeding in a car on the way to the echelons of care. That was waaaay before Quick Clot.
I mean it looked like major vessels and i hope im wrong but here being an oral surgeon and seeing some of this shit in the hospital if he wasn’t on an OR table in 10 minutes and the carotid or IJ was hit it’s very unlikely
Remember once you believe another American shouldn't have access to the 2A purely for their beliefs, you are no longer an American that supports the constitution and your own right to the 2A.
This country isn't heading in a good direction, but people need to come together instead of continuing this push for teams and violence against the other team like a sportsball game. That means speaking out against Left on Right violence, Right on Left, whatever team, color, background. Denounce violence, be the bigger person. Don't go on the offense, but always be ready for defense.
This country isn't heading in a good direction, but people need to come together instead of continuing this push for teams and violence against the other team like a sportsball game. That means speaking out against Left on Right violence, Right on Left, whatever team, color, background. Denounce violence, be the bigger person. Don't go on the offense, but always be ready for defense.
Based on his physical reaction directly after the hit, no.
Yes.
Also one of the few states which allow for execution by firing squad, though i'm not familiar with the rules on that one.
Mentally-ill people need help, not access to firearms.
We have an anti-American group of people who have fully embraced Marxist indoctrination in the school system, and have been calling for political violence for many years now.
If you don’t love this Country and what it stands for, and instead of leaving it, choose to stay and fight to destroy it from within, you aren’t welcome here.
We’ve been far too soft on Marxists in our midst. There is no room for Marxism in America. The 2 things are fundamentally incompatible with each other, by self declaration.
We have an anti-American group of people who have fully embraced Marxist indoctrination in the school system, and have been calling for political violence for many years now.
If you don’t love this Country and what it stands for, and instead of leaving it, choose to stay and fight to destroy it from within, you aren’t welcome here.
We’ve been far too soft on Marxists in our midst. There is no room for Marxism in America. The 2 things are fundamentally incompatible with each other, by self declaration.
Its telling that there wasn't much spurt, just heavy flow. Thats a wide open blood vessel.
I'm
Fuck that take that cocksucker to the public square and skin him alive and let the other leftist faggots know what's coming for them.
He'll be dead of natural causes before it happens.
Fuck that take that cocksucker to the public square and skin him alive and let the other leftist faggots know what's coming for them.
I don't know about your example guy but all GSW are not the same.
The closest and clearest vid so far shows a LOT of hydraulics at impact. His shirt puffs, skin and outer tissue ripples and there is massive blood actively pushed out of either the entrance or exit. The blood wasn't driven by BP and pulse like a spurt from an arterial cut. I think what was caught on video was the result of the temp wound cavity of a rifle round dumping all energy on target.
FMJs and even most BTHPs are not going to have that type terminal performance.
I am betting a 5.56 class rifle round with a midweight varmint style projo.
He’s gone … so is Iryna …
Not fedposting but … this is unsustainable, things are going to get really really bad.
Not fedposting but … this is unsustainable, things are going to get really really bad.
That's all well and good, but who's been doing ALL of the shooting ?
And, more importantly, what are YOU doing personally to reverse this horrible course ?
I think you're wagging your finger at the wrong group of people here.
And no, don't bother replying that "I misunderstand". I understand perfectly.
I am in no way advocating any form of violence by anyone, but I think your perspective is in bad need of re-calibration.
^^^ This. 24 years of battlefield trauma surgery and tech has done some amazing things IF they can get him to a trauma center before he bleeds out. News said about 20 minutes ago he is receiving transfusions. Bullet may have missed lungs and spine... if they can stop the bleeding fast? Not saying it's not bad. Maybe fatal. Just don't know.
Maps says 2.5-ish miles <10 minutes to nearest hospital... But he is at Utah valley Hospital that was 4 miles and about 12 minutes away. No idea what their trauma capabilities are but they propbably picked that for a reason.
Too early to know what is going to happen... hopefully doctors press conference soon. Latest report is critical and being 'worked on' right now by surgeons. Holding pattern is all we got...
My big question... I Wonder if the FBI will actually be communicating honestly and fairly on this one? Be a big test. Or will this be like the rooftop where there are more conspiracy theories than JFK!!! It will be a chance to show Kash Patel shine or fail miserably. I hope it is done really well. And lets Patel and Bongino restore some trust in the Bureau.
Sirhr
Same here.
It was def a rifle hit. He would have had to have had plates (rifle rated) and he did not.
I work in IT, and on a Teams call today, one of my "coworkers" (he's remote, somewhere in Maryland) mentioned this incident, but approvingly. What a fucking asshat. The people on that side, even supposedly "normal" ones, are completely on board for killing anyone simply opposed to ideas they hold. But it's the alt-right, nazi, racists that are dangerous! I think I've officially reached my limit of tolerance.
Did you already forget the two sitting Dem lawmakers that got aced this year?
You should have knocked her teeth out if you had any balls. That's a ride ide be happy to take to jail.
You mean like Trump in Butler, PA?
They killed jesus for speaking the truth in love too.
Pray for those that curse you and spitefully use you.
Never stop speaking the truth in love.
prayers for the kirk familiy
-shred
Pray for those that curse you and spitefully use you.
Never stop speaking the truth in love.
prayers for the kirk familiy
-shred
Even if they kept the body alive lack of oyx to brain means brain death . If somehow he miraculously survives he's going to be a vegetable. Those types of injuries with the best trauma care available are rarely survivable.
MSNBC Reporter Matthew Dowd is the pundit who blamed Charlie Kirk for the attack...
Bet he will get a Daytime Emmy for that 'coverage.' Instead of fired by his 'network.'
Sirhr
Jews: Maybe if we just keep following their orders they'll stop killing us?
Don't disagree... but if they kept blood flowing and responded fast enough, he may have a chance.
Not going to write him off. I have a lot of faith in surgeons....
Sirhr
The other side of your neck provides all the arterial blood and oxygen you need.
It’s a redundant system. There’s an F-14 pilot who before he was ever allowed into flight school, was shot by an idiot in the neck, lost his right side vessels.
He got all kinds of waivers and ended up a Tomcat’s driver. They called him “Face Shot”.
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that's why the left hates him. a beautiful white christian family.
Not a good example for your supposed point, considering they were killed by someone affiliated with their own party that was displeased because the targeted politicians weren't extreme enough for the perp.
Especially now, we need to be as cool-headed as possible.
Someone obviously is trying to instigate mass hostilities in the US, with all the black murderer attacks being suppressed on legacy media, but being shared virally on the new mainstream social media funnels.
It feels very orchestrated.
Praying for Charlie to pull through by God’s grace and infinite power.
Someone obviously is trying to instigate mass hostilities in the US, with all the black murderer attacks being suppressed on legacy media, but being shared virally on the new mainstream social media funnels.
It feels very orchestrated.
Praying for Charlie to pull through by God’s grace and infinite power.
So any one going to riot and burn their city down??
Wait its not a drug addict tryin to pass a fake $20 off on a 17year old Palestinian immigrant. Because if it was...
Wait its not a drug addict tryin to pass a fake $20 off on a 17year old Palestinian immigrant. Because if it was...
All I can say is that about 15% of the human population can actually survive with only one carotid. It renders the person at about 86% mental capacity, but they can survive. AMHIK (yeah, I'm one of the 15%).
LOL The dude was an outspoken anti-abortion Christian targetting Dems and Planned Parenthood. Yes he had voted Dem in the past...But I guess if everyone here wants to start banning based on belief buckets... well... I think a lot of innocent people fall in the same Christian bucket as him.
Once again, don't let emotions lead to stupid decisions. We should be trying to move forward, not continue to regress. Someone shouldn't kill or be killed for their opinions. That includes Kirk and anyone else.
Breitbart just reported that Charlie Kirk has passed...
Hopefully they are wrong... But not going to bet against them.
Sirhr
Hopefully they are wrong... But not going to bet against them.
Sirhr
Also that the man in the blue shirt is 'not' the suspect.
So... everything is still up in the air until we get firm details.
Sirhr
So... everything is still up in the air until we get firm details.
Sirhr
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