Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

[Diabolus]

The news keeps having people on saying this was a professional. I think 99% of the shooters on this forum could easily make a shot at that distance in the center of a pie tin, and a day at a range after watching some Youtube most new shooters could as well. No professional is going to dress in all black, with a blue skyline behind them and run to the edge of a building in full view like that. If it was a presidential detail (the proper detail, nothing like Butler) they would have been dead instantly.

I was disappointed to hear the FBI Director say we have the subject, and to reverse that later. Could this disrupt the investigation to capture the assassin? Did resources shift gears when they heard this giving the shooter more time?

They will catch this person and we better get a full investigation with public disclosure on who they are.

 

[Daddyusmaximus]

 

[theLBC]

props to the yankees for having some respect.

 

[LuckyLuke80]

Kirk went behind enemy lines regularly and looked evil in the face. I believe he knew the risk. He is with his creator tonight.

I don't think the neck shot was a miss. It was done for maximum effect by a professional. It was meant to instill fear in the next person that might pick up the flag and carry on Kirk's cause.

I firmly believe you are correct on the shot placement. It was a shot to the voice box of a man they feared because they couldn’t beat him verbally-so they silenced him eternally.

 

[Rthur]

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You’re probably right about that.

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After all, we are quite the tribalists that deify our champions and vilify the other.

There’s more than enough evidence to show there’s a lot of malice coming from both sides.

Right on Left, Left on Right.

Imagine, seeing Left on Left as well as Right on Right vitriol.

Pelosi's husband wasn't attacked.

Let's review:
People who are worth around half a billion dollars had a guy in his underwear with a hammer defeat their security.
Or Paul had a gay interaction and it went south and this is the story fed to the masses?

R

 

[Fx51LP308]

props to the yankees for having some respect.

And, hopefully, America will have a bunch of respect for NY, tomorrow, being the 24th Anniversary of 9/11.

 

[Maggot]

ANY political figure that has advocated violence in the recent past from Maxine Twaters on down needs to be arrested and tried. Last I knew inciting violence IS A CRIME. No?

Only if youre conservative.

 

[akmike47]

If you have a semi novice shooter that is familiar enough to aim and shoot with some accuracy involved, that same person probably would not know to correct the hold. Eventually we will probably get more information, but for now, that is a plausible scenario.

They only have to get lucky once

 

[akmike47]

I firmly believe you are correct on the shot placement. It was a shot to the voice box of a man they feared because they couldn’t beat him verbally-so they silenced him eternally.

You really put quite the stretch on that one

 

[mosin46]

pro or not

Kirk went behind enemy lines regularly and looked evil in the face. I believe he knew the risk. He is with his creator tonight.

I don't think the neck shot was a miss. It was done for maximum effect by a professional. It was meant to instill fear in the next person that might pick up the flag and carry on Kirk's cause.

it wasn't some 12 yo with a cheap AR and red dot as one here has said. my uninformed guess is chest sighting that went high because angle wasn't considered? i don't think a pro or skilled hitter would take a neck aim. too chancy even @ 200. even a head shot is a chance unless shooter knew he was in plates. is the plate story true? if so,that changes the possibilities of a lot of things. damn sure it wasn't an air rifle.
wonder about the arrest with an air rifle? guy looked like he might be a homeless? bike shown his? a distraction set up? that would also change a lot more things in the story. there is one here for sure. will we ever know? not likely. too many "unknown" political murders and we haven't got straight dope on any of them.

 

[theLBC]

Pretty much, it's normal people vs insanity

right?

when i was a young voter, the battle was about whether or not to raise taxes so we could spend more money on welfare programs or education.
now the battle is over killing babies, mutilating and sterilizing confused children, men in girls bathrooms, allowing migrant murderers, rapists, pedophiles and other criminals into the country, waging proxy wars that slaughter countless people, and taking away our god given rights and freedoms.

there is a trans that claims he is getting a uterus implanted so they can impregnate him and he can get an abortion.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

For all ya'll arguing over angle and distance and where this person intended to aim.

It was a short range shot, all that shit is moot.

Kirk is dead, it was effective.

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

President Trump should award Charlie Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Period.

 

[SRPowah]

I was disappointed to hear the FBI Director say we have the subject, and to reverse that later. Could this disrupt the investigation to capture the assassin? Did resources shift gears when they heard this giving the shooter more time?

I am loving the conspiracy theories being spun across the net right now. Most are saying this "mistake" was intentional to help the shooter. I think my favorite (NOTE: NOT SAYING MOST PLAUSIBLE, JUST WHAT I FIND FUNNY) so far is that it was a Mossad false flag attack to keep America focused on its own issues.

Can yall imagine a Mossad hitter getting told to take a chipshot in a shit position and then run across the roof afterwards?

 

[MaxMoneyMinSense]

ANY political figure that has advocated violence in the recent past from Maxine Twaters on down needs to be arrested and tried. Last I knew inciting violence IS A CRIME. No?

Do you objectively agree with this list and these quotes?

 

[MK20]

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Do you objectively agree with this list?

Your list is deceptively edited and therefore a damn Communist propagandistic lie.

Fuck off with that. Your kind is not needed here today. Your kind is not needed in my country any day. Get the fuck out.

 

[LuckyLuke80]

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Do you objectively agree with this list and these quotes?

This post has a bit of a glow to it

 

[MaxMoneyMinSense]

Your list is deceptively edited and therefore a damn Communist propagandistic lie.

Fuck off with that. Your kind is not needed here today. Your kind is not needed in my country any day. Get the fuck out.

This was my ChatGPT query. I didn't specify Conservative or Liberal.

I can ask Grok the same question if that AI better fits your worldview?

 

[dustingaunder]

30* down at 200 yards with a 143 6.5cm I get 0.3 vs 0.5 flat. What’s that, 1.4” high?

 

[MaxMoneyMinSense]

Here is Grok’s response.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/0LTXtblJlvf6YdXZAvefapDxf

These are all objective quotes. It’s your fault if they get sand in your cooter.

 

[ChezJfrey]

Asking ChatGPT and rife with Wikipedia cites...LOL, I can't even...OMG, I'm choking on my drink...

 

[MK20]

Quotes out of context are not objective.

If you expect AI to be objective you are unintelligent.

 

[Matches Malone]

Not the assassin, the bankroller.
Has been under investigation for weeks and this is retribution.

Try and get a grip.

Try and get a grip on what?
I’m talking about the assassin in butler PA….we still don’t know shit about that kid.

 

[WeR0206]

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This was my ChatGPT query. I didn't specify Conservative or Liberal.

I can ask Grok the same question if that AI better fits your worldview?

Lol...all the LLM's like chatgpt do is scrape the internet of all the mainstream positions on things so it pretty much regurgitates leftist/commie talking points

 

[TahoeDust]

30* down at 200 yards with a 143 6.5cm I get 0.3 vs 0.5 flat. What’s that, 1.4” high?

If he shot from where people are saying it is more like 140yd and from 45' elevation at 140yds it would be just over 6* down. I don't think elevation had anything to do with POI...or VERY little.

 

[MaxMoneyMinSense]

Quotes out of context are not objective.

If you expect AI to be objective you are unintelligent.

What context? There is no context. Samuel Whitepower objectively stated that ANY politician that incites violence should be prosecuted. I wholeheartedly agree. Not my fault that his favorite politicians are on the list of having done just that.

 

[BCP]

Here is Grok’s response.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/0LTXtblJlvf6YdXZAvefapDxf

These are all objective quotes. It’s your fault if they get sand in your cooter.

I wonder what commie faggot retread this is

 

[Edsel]

Negative. Only a small percentage of people have an arterial passageway between the two hemispheres of the brain large/wide enough to support that.

He’s conflating the redundancies afforded by the Circle of Willis in Acute Carotid Occlusions, which are a totally different animal from Carotid Lacerations.

 

[MaxMoneyMinSense]

Lol...all the LLM's like chatgpt do is scrape the internet of all the mainstream positions on things so it pretty much regurgitates leftist/commie talking points

I didn't realize actual quotes and words spoken from a politician's mouth was just a talking point made up by mainstream media? All I asked was for examples of quotes. You're the one ascribing some nonexistent agenda behind it.

 

[Rthur]

30* down at 200 yards with a 143 6.5cm I get 0.3 vs 0.5 flat. What’s that, 1.4” high?

30 degrees down is much different then 30 foot up.

R

 

[BurtG]

I liked him. Always had the dems on thier heals back tracking the BS they spew. This day I am changed. It's past time for pay back and as of now....every fucking democrat is on my shit list. Im ready to kick this off anytime they want.

Hayden.

Amen

 

[Defiantly_Not_Bender]

Right on time.


Stop noticing!!

 

[akmike47]

What context? There is no context. Samuel Whitepower objectively stated that ANY politician that incites violence should be prosecuted. I wholeheartedly agree. Not my fault that his favorite politicians are on the list of having done just that.

More likely it was some amped up moron wobbling like a mother fucker and they happened to make an effective shot. Stupid fucks think an air force special agent space SEAL shot trump perfectly in the ear on purpose also

 

[akmike47]

Right on time.


Stop noticing!!

Wut?

 

[MaxMoneyMinSense]

More likely it was some amped up moron wobbling like a mother fucker and they happened to make an effective shot

I think you replied to the wrong guy.

But if rumors are correct, someone who can make a 200 yard cold bore shot that impacts just above the sternal notch, drunk or Parky or not, is someone I want on my team.

 

[Edsel]

And tomorrow we will all go to work and forget about this.

We will say strong words to hope they will stop

We will say our guns will keep us free....

We will never use our guns to stop tyranny

Most of us will never use our guns to hunt.

Most of us will never use our guns to shoot more than a few rounds each year to impress our friends.

Most of us will never even take a day off work to protest any of this and pretend we have to work because of bills and such.

We are lost as a white conservative people.

Doc

Yep!

 

[akmike47]

I think you replied to the wrong guy.

But if rumors are correct, someone who can make a 200 yard cold bore shot that impacts just above the sternal notch, drunk or Parky or not, is someone I want on my team.

Probably, not going to even bother checking. Someone got a reply anyway

@MaxMoneyMinSense I looked after all and was somehow a whole post off lol

 

[Spock]

Kirk went behind enemy lines regularly and looked evil in the face. I believe he knew the risk. He is with his creator tonight.

I don't think the neck shot was a miss. It was done for maximum effect by a professional. It was meant to instill fear in the next person that might pick up the flag and carry on Kirk's cause.

Disagree max effect would be face shot with massive result in back. Neck shot carotid low percentage cold bore even for the more skilled shooters. No one wants to think about being shot in the head

 

[WeR0206]

I didn't realize actual quotes and words spoken from a politician's mouth was just a talking point made up by mainstream media? All I asked was for examples of quotes. You're the one ascribing some nonexistent agenda behind it.

Yes they were actual quotes but they were edited by MSM goons...so yes the AI picked up actual (out of context) quotes that were trimmed/commented on by msm and that's what it provided you. If you don't understand how unreliable AI can be then you should probably sit the next few plays out.

For example, if you ask AI if Trump incited violence on Jan 6th it will likely tell you yes b/c that's what the msm, the sham congressional committee, etc. were saying.....even though Trump clearly said "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard" the AI would skip that part b/c it was largely left out of msm quotes/talking points. It would need to be re-directed to find the fully transcript and then re-evaluate and then it MIGHT finally get close to the right answer.

 

[winxp_man]

I cannot stress enough once again that this stupid picture of a pellet gun is not what shot Charlie Kirk.

It was a big boy gun that made the shot. Not a .22 cal pellet gun.

CF long gun for sure. At first it was stated up close pistol. Then videos started coming out, and most were swinging to locations further away.

 

[Diabolus]

I think you replied to the wrong guy.

But if rumors are correct, someone who can make a 200 yard cold bore shot that impacts just above the sternal notch, drunk or Parky or not, is someone I want on my team.

It was closer to 140 yards and you know darn well anyone on this forum could hit center of a pie tin at that range, and someone with no experience could watch a few YouTube videos, a few hours at a range, and hit the same shot. People are trying to determine if he had a suppressor like he's some clandestine assassin when he dressed in all black, ran across a blue sky on a roof for everyone to see. If there was a proper presidential detail there he would have been shot dead a quarter through that run.

 

[dustingaunder]

If he shot from where people are saying it is more like 140yd and from 45' elevation at 140yds it would be just over 6* down. I don't think elevation had anything to do with POI...or VERY little.

I don’t either. Just putting some numbers to the speculation to show even if it was extreme it didn’t matter.

 

[mosin46]

I am loving the conspiracy theories being spun across the net right now. Most are saying this "mistake" was intentional to help the shooter. I think my favorite (NOTE: NOT SAYING MOST PLAUSIBLE, JUST WHAT I FIND FUNNY) so far is that it was a Mossad false flag attack to keep America focused on its own issues.

Can yall imagine a Mossad hitter getting told to take a chipshot in a shit position and then run across the roof afterwards?

prob a bunch of "conspiracy theories" coming out? likely. how many currently active Epstein,RFK,JFK,MLK,9/11,Iraq,Tonkin,Trump x 2,1/6 have been proven wrong?
exactly ZERO!
Mossad is a reach but you think 10/7 was as advertised? maybe you accept the conventional narrative on those? if you do-wake up,try thinking. there will and have been here and elsewhere reasonable guesses on the Kirk murder. that is a reasonable thinking way to look at current and past events. try it.

 

[WeR0206]

CF long gun for sure. At first it was stated up close pistol. Then videos started coming out, and most were swinging to locations further away.

Don't our intel agencies have all kinds of fancy acoustic software than can analyze sound recordings from multiple cell phones/sources then triangulate the general location and distance of the shooter?

This asshole should be fairly easy to find especially considering all the cameras on campuses these days.

 

[SRPowah]

Lol...all the LLM's like chatgpt do is scrape the internet of all the mainstream positions on things so it pretty much regurgitates leftist/commie talking points

Thats not quite true... there is a lot of data cleaning and prompt engineering that goes into most model creation to work around that... Its how you can end up with models pivoting sharply like Grok and it's MegaHitler phase. lol Its also why people should cross check across models.

But I dont really wanna get into a data science discussion outside of work hours, and especially not in this thread.

 

[dustingaunder]

I couldn’t tell from the videos if it was suppressed or not. Sounded like down range of any CF rifle. Tried listening for the boom but audio wasn’t great and it was chaotic. At 140 yards there would have been little time delta between the bullet crack and the boom down range. Hard to say.

 

[akmike47]

Don't our intel agencies have all kinds of fancy acoustic software than can analyze sound recordings from multiple cell phones/sources then triangulate the general location and distance of the shooter?

This asshole should be fairly easy to find especially considering all the cameras on campuses these days.

Y’all have way too much faith in camera systems being 100% operational everywhere.

 

[WeR0206]

Thats not quite true... there is a lot of data cleaning and prompt engineering that goes into most model creation to work around that... Its how you can end up with models pivoting sharply like Grok and it's MegaHitler phase. lol Its also why people should cross check across models.

But I dont really wanna get into a data science discussion outside of work hours, and especially not in this thread.

True but most of these "mainstream" models are trained on mainstream sources, etc. so they spit out mainstream positions on things...if trained differently they would produce a different output...I was speaking in generalities b/c I also don't want to get into a data science discussion outside of work hours.

 

[WeR0206]

Y’all have way too much faith in camera systems being 100% operational everywhere.

Haha not really...I just find it hard to believe someone could get a long gun within a few hundred yards of an on campus event and not a single camera would catch them. They would need a somewhat stable shooting position to pull this shot off....it's not like it was a walk by with a handgun

 

[BurtG]

If Charlie is a target, who denounced violence, let the left speak openly and responded respectfully, we are all targets on this side.