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Something kicking off in Israel

Careful, you'll be the next one to get blasted as an anti-Semite.

Considering the actual anti-Semitism sprinkled throughout the Pit over the past few years (much of it in the PortaJohn thread), I find the choice of targets in the back half of this thread to be puzzling.
Its not puzzling. He is to censoring who he wants to censor. He picked who he wanted to censor and said the magic words. Its done. It doesnt matter what you actually post. He just puts words in your mouth and its not worth the energy to try to continue to discuss things even though this is probably a event that will effect all of us like no other. True anti semites carry that around all the time like a dirty towel. He could care less about censoring them. Now that the future of everthing we know is at risk people are asking legitimate questions about our choices USA a sovereign nation who usually dont think about Israel or Judaism at all.. Thats who he wants to censor. Not the true anti semites. Not the leftists who suddenly see hamas filth as heros. In this matter if you are concerned about the future of the USA you are a anti semite. He doesnt want the distinctions between Israel , The Jewish race. and the Judaism discussed. Thats not allowed. You are not allowed to consider USA best interests. If you do that you support hamas. There is no defense. It takes too much emotional energy. Who wants to be associated with depraved filty terrorists? You are not allowed to analyze USA interests seperate from Israels in this matter. You are not allowed to comunicate that in your heart you hold no ill will toward any race or religion that you judge people by their actions. If you analyze USA interests in this matter you support hamas done deal. Its already done. Censorship already complete
 
Stop being afraid of being called mean things. White privilege, hatespeech, racist, anti-semite, and a whole mess of others - they’re not real words, they are rhetorical blunt objects used to silence normal people, used by fools and assholes.
 
Compliments actually. Being called names by certain personality types is a clear indication that one is thinking/speaking in a right direction.
Well stated, and good point!
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Stop being afraid of being called mean things. White privilege, hatespeech, racist, anti-semite, and a whole mess of others - they’re not real words, they are rhetorical blunt objects used to silence normal people, used by fools and assholes.
The term "anti-semite" is nothing but a tool they have used for ..what..50 years or so (commonly anyway).
If you disagree with a jew, you are an anti semite.
If you call a jew a jew, you are an anti semite.
If you say the name Hitler (in any context) you are an anti semite.
If there is a remaining picture of Hitler, it is anti semite.
History books are anti semite.

Wake the fuck up.
They use it as a tool......to manipulate......YOU.
 
Canada is lost. So is your shit hole (that I wore a uniform for) full of illegal immigrants ruled by the uni party woke grifters. You are trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.
Yet you are still intent in removing dust out of our eye while a splinter is jutting out of yours.
 
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It seems obvious at this point, that creating Israel for the jews following WW2 was a mistake. I wasn't there, but I can understand why it was done, and sympathize with it. But was it really necessary? It didn't stop anti-semitism, maybe even increased it. My understanding is that if there were 6 million jews killed in the 'camps', there were an additional 5 million others who died there who barely get mentioned, much less get a separate country for each group. But what it did was indemnify the US to giving Israel a blank check from the US every year, ad infinitum, which adds up to hundreds of billions. Despite all that largesse, Israel spies on us; then there is the USS LIberty. As with most foreign aid, it buys us very little, except the promise to be right there when they need us.. We now have political division here over it, and politicians and citizens who seem more loyal to Israel than the US.
 
My 17-yo daughter mentioned to me this morning that Israel was dropping white phosphorus bombs on palestinians. Usually when she drops something on me like that, it's because she is skeptical, and I think wants to hear what I have to say about it. I looked it up on Google and Results Hunter this morning and all I can find are the same articles (from mostly left-leaning outlets) accusing or alleging the use of white phosphorus bombs. Nothing with actual proof. I can see that white phosphorus is a component used in some artillery and since Hamas uses civilians as human shields, it may be inevitable that some civilians are impacted by this component. But to indiscriminately drop white phosphorus bombs with the intended purpose of maiming and killing "innocent" gazans looks to me like propaganda.

What say you?

Snake, nape and Willie-Peter the entire Gaza Strip!!! Napalm does wonders for tunnel complexes….

You get highly motivated to not fly paragliders into hippie rock concerts…. When you are actually on fire.

If Hamas could have fired WP rockets into a concert, they would have. No proportionality in this crap. Get it over with as fast as possible and go back to peace.

If that means turning the entire Gaza Strip into a post apocalyptic 140 square miles of melted rebar and scorched tunnels… fine. Afterwards lease it out to Hollywood to make Mad Max films! If they can get Mel Gibson to visit.

Sirhr
 
Snake, nape and Willie-Peter the entire Gaza Strip!!! Napalm does wonders for tunnel complexes….

You get highly motivated to not fly paragliders into hippie rock concerts…. When you are actually on fire.

If Hamas could have fired WP rockets into a concert, they would have. No proportionality in this crap. Get it over with as fast as possible and go back to peace.

If that means turning the entire Gaza Strip into a post apocalyptic 140 square miles of melted rebar and scorched tunnels… fine. Afterwards lease it out to Hollywood to make Mad Max films! If they can get Mel Gibson to visit.

Sirhr
This would ensure there would be NO peace.
 
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Yet you are still intent in removing dust out of our eye while a splinter is jutting out of yours.
You don’t get it. My service in the USMC gives me the right to comment. Many of your countrymen have given fuck all and still pretend they have a divine right of world of world manipulation. Soon reality will become too big for ostrich’s like you to hide your head.
 
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I believe you Wade. It’s just that often in a different context I forget how ideologically “pure“ you are.

I disagree with you often, but I know you’re not a hypocrite. I would only warn you that if you go far enough to the political extremes you only end up in the same place on a circle. Though is has been proven over, and over, and over, that it is not a viable ideology for human beings; don’t forget that real Marxist Communism promises that it will evolve into a society that does not have any government. That’s is quite different from the goal being a government you can drown in a bathtub if it goes out of control. To me the difference between limited, Liberal government, and no government is a vast one. Vast enough to create a large enough battlefield. If we had the Constitutional Republic the founders gave us we would be so rich and powerful the rest of the world would probably follow suit. Jefferson had it exactly right. We are being destroyed through the Judicial branch. That was the one they didn’t figure out, and by leaving it so vague and open with so much riding on precedent and tradition it was the weak point the left had used to destroy our Republic.

There is a lot to dislike about the Israeli government from a libertarian point of view. I would only point to a country like Denmark (about the same size population on half the land) to make an arguement. Socialism can actually be successful if your population has the same culture, the same shared history, the same morals, values, work ethic, the same aspirations, etc. In other words if a state is homogenous and uni-cultural giving everyone the same can work on a small scale. Introduce diversity, which success naturally attracts, and it is a disaster. Denmark is about half as socialist as they were 50 years ago. The EU and unrestricted immigration have shattered their system, and they’ve had to become much less socialist to prevent their system from collapsing as out has. They have an actual national pension system with actual money and actual investments (50% Danish and 50% international). We have a Ponzie scheme that is already a total failure.
 
It seems obvious at this point, that creating Israel for the jews following WW2 was a mistake. I wasn't there, but I can understand why it was done, and sympathize with it. But was it really necessary? It didn't stop anti-semitism, maybe even increased it. My understanding is that if there were 6 million jews killed in the 'camps', there were an additional 5 million others who died there who barely get mentioned, much less get a separate country for each group. But what it did was indemnify the US to giving Israel a blank check from the US every year, ad infinitum, which adds up to hundreds of billions. Despite all that largesse, Israel spies on us; then there is the USS LIberty. As with most foreign aid, it buys us very little, except the promise to be right there when they need us.. We now have political division here over it, and politicians and citizens who seem more loyal to Israel than the US.
Balfour is interesting the people who made the decision (not the USA). Spilt milk. People tend to look at the situation from their particular orientation. IMO the most important factor is Israel is nuclear armed. Thats where the actors that wish Israel to end are not facing reality. Israel will never give up its nuclear weapons. IMO there are only three logical outcomes.
1. Israel plays increasing hardball- disregards civillian casualties and becomes fortress Israel.. This creates conditions where nuclear weapons are not used.
2. Israel manages to incorporate west bank and gaza into Israel society. This creates conditions where nuclear weapons are not used.
3 Nuclear weapon use.

Take your pick. Thats reality. I dont see Israel being overun without nuclear weapon use as a realistic possibility.. What happens after nuclear weapons use. Who knows. I dont think it will be good. I dont see Israel giving up its nuclear weapons a possibility. All this stuff about likes and dislike fair and not fair is important in regard to nuclear weapons use but no amount of "support" or "likes will change the situation.

The "Balfour declaration", a comunication from one "lord" to another "lord" was perhaps a a point in time worth paying attention too. I wouuld argue that the point in time that most effects the situation is Israels aquisition of nuclear weapons in conjunction with delivery capability. I no people poo poo thate possibility of their use. I think thats conveniant for them to express one viewpoint or another. As we see in the region there is a lot of hot air and threats with no substance but thats now when things are far from grim, I see the possibility of nuclear weapons use by Israel to be quite high. Hpefully it wont occur in my lifetime. Muslims can burn down Paris, London, Hamburg and Istanbul. USA could withdraw all support. (ha)It doesnt matter. Israel will still have nukes. Its a situation that does not lend itself to enforcment of fair and equally applied law. Fair and equally applied international law that respects sovereign nation law is the only realistic solution. The NWO guys think otherwise. Coincidentally they are the same "lords: who sent a letter to each other called "Balfour". Those seem to be the towo solutions. A universal one world goverment where all cultures are dissolved or a adoption of fair international law where sovereign nations laws and culture respect is paramount. Myself I like more than one Ice cream flavor in the shop.
 
It seems IDF entered into some urban areas , of course things are getting messy but notice IDF all buttoned up in their armor , as you can imagine situational awareness of armor is limited, only thing saving IDF from more casualties is that first their armor is designed to handle this more than any other armor out here, particularly PUMA and NAMER APCs that are armored on MBT levels. And second Palestinians not having military grade weapons , all these RPGs are homemade.

*Gaza Cerakote custom shop seems to be skipping on cerakote , Rpgs are all scratched down to bare metal. 🤪
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Sins on both sides of this but my reply to people progressing the narrative that Gaza is an open air concentration camp and Israel stops food and medical supplies getting to the population - 'Maybe they could use the rockets, cases of RPG's and AKM's as 'giant prison wallets' to smuggle them in'. Normally get a confused and bewildered look in response. I also tell them to use Google Earth and zoom in on Gaza, click on hotels, resorts, shops etc and have a look at the images posted. Does it look like Auschwitz?

We're probably a struck match away from a wider conflict lifting off. Absolutely no confidence in the current US administration handling this in a responsible manner.
 
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That is some BS
Only thing we can piece together is that Hit pieces are insinuating that Assad of Syria might give Hezbollah in Libanon an SA22 system , Russians are just thrown into the mix to make sure Russia is associated with the whole mess in Israel for the Covidiots, standing with Ukraine crowd that is now flying Palestinian flags. (they lost their most ardent followers over Gaza , hence trying to link the two)
Honestly SAMs are meant to work as an integrated system sending one Pantsir into Lebanon just means it will get attacked and hit in no time .
A shitload of ATGMs and FPV drones would make much more sense. with MANPADs everyone is relatively careful to distribute as they tend to end up dowing jet liners.

Would take the story as BS until proven otherwise

The whole story spun to sound like they hired Wagner PMC to literaly drive as Syrian Army SAM system to Lebanon.

And then with already sus content they drop these nuggets.
''It is not clear how much influence Russia had over the decision to provide the system to Hezbollah.''
''But Iran does not maintain perfect control of its umbrella of proxy groups, officials say, in particular over Hezbollah''

Anyone that ever worked in ME would know that most of these groups operate in loose alliances and very few are 'taking orders' like MSM would like everyone to believe, and when US 'holds Iran responsible' its really about not being able to work against the specific groups involved due to lack of Human intel , and instead just go for someone they can bomb irrespective of any involvement.

[URL unfurl="true"]https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/02/politics/syrias-assad-hezbollah-wagner-missile-system/index.html[/URL]
 
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That is some BS
Only thing we can piece together is that Hit pieces are insinuating that Assad of Syria might give Hezbollah in Libanon an SA22 system , Russians are just thrown into the mix to make sure Russia is associated with the whole mess in Israel for the Covidiots, standing with Ukraine crowd that is now flying Palestinian flags.
Honestly SAMs are meant to work as an integrated system sending one Pantsir into Lebanon just means it will get attacked and hit in no time .
A shitload of ATGMs and FPV drones would make much more sense. with MANPADs everyone is relatively careful to distribute as they tend to end up dowing jet liners.

Would take the story as BS until proven otherwise

The whole story spun to sound like they hired Wagner PMC to literaly drive as Syrian Army SAM system to Lebanon.

And then with already sus content they drop these nuggets.
''It is not clear how much influence Russia had over the decision to provide the system to Hezbollah.''
''But Iran does not maintain perfect control of its umbrella of proxy groups, officials say, in particular over Hezbollah''

Anyone that ever worked in ME would know that most of these groups operate in loose alliances and very few are 'taking orders' like MSM would like everyone to believe, and when US 'holds Iran responsible' its really about not being able to work against the specific groups involved due to lack of Human intel , and instead just go for someone they can bomb irrespective of any involvement.

[URL unfurl="true"]https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/02/politics/syrias-assad-hezbollah-wagner-missile-system/index.html[/URL]

As usual, the whole place is on a hair trigger... And that trigger will be pulled by the least stable individual in the whole region any time.

Paraphrasing an analyst from the 1990's. But he was right.

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
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As usual, the whole place is on a hair trigger... And that trigger will be pulled by the least stable individual in the whole region any time.

Paraphrasing an analyst from the 1990's. But he was right.

Cheers,

Sirhr

Hez gets most of its money and weapons from Iran.

Hez is the butt baby of the org that did this to Buckley. Fuck Hez. Bomb them and Hamas into dust.




Major General Carl Stiner stated that "Buckley's kidnapping had become a major CIA concern. Not long after his capture, his agents either vanished or were killed. It was clear that his captors had tortured him into revealing the network of agents he had established."[25] According to the United States, Buckley had undergone 15 months of torture by Hezbollah before his death. After Buckley's kidnapping, three videos of Buckley being tortured were sent to the CIA in Athens. Interpreters noticed puncture marks indicating he was injected with narcotics. According to several sources, as a result of his torture, he signed a 400-page statement detailing his CIA activities.[5][26] In a video taken approximately seven months after the kidnapping, his appearance was described as follows:

Buckley was close to a gibbering wretch. His words were often incoherent; he slobbered and drooled and, most unnerving of all, he would suddenly scream in terror, his eyes rolling helplessly and his body shaking.[27] The CIA consensus was that he would be blindfolded and chained at the ankles and wrists and kept in a cell little bigger than a coffin.[5]
 

The FBI has been so busy targeting grandmas ant school meetings, I bet it has NO order of battle on these groups. And the FBI is penetrated.
 
Sins on both sides of this but my reply to people progressing the narrative that Gaza is an open air concentration camp and Israel stops food and medical supplies getting to the population - 'Maybe they could use the rockets, cases of RPG's and AKM's as 'giant prison wallets' to smuggle them in'. Normally get a confused and bewildered look in response. I also tell them to use Google Earth and zoom in on Gaza, click on hotels, resorts, shops etc and have a look at the images posted. Does it look like Auschwitz?

We're probably a struck match away from a wider conflict lifting off. Absolutely no confidence in the current US administration handling this in a responsible manner.

Hamas did this to themselves.

They had a gorgeous beach front property, infrastructure, and support from the West, with affluent markets around them. Gaza could have been a new Lebanon but they chose to make it in an open air fort.

When the Israelis left as part of the peace deal, they left functioning infrastructure that was looted.


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Hez gets most of its money and weapons from Iran.

Hez is the butt baby of the org that did this to Buckley. Fuck Hez. Bomb them and Hamas into dust.




Major General Carl Stiner stated that "Buckley's kidnapping had become a major CIA concern. Not long after his capture, his agents either vanished or were killed. It was clear that his captors had tortured him into revealing the network of agents he had established."[25] According to the United States, Buckley had undergone 15 months of torture by Hezbollah before his death. After Buckley's kidnapping, three videos of Buckley being tortured were sent to the CIA in Athens. Interpreters noticed puncture marks indicating he was injected with narcotics. According to several sources, as a result of his torture, he signed a 400-page statement detailing his CIA activities.[5][26] In a video taken approximately seven months after the kidnapping, his appearance was described as follows:
They did the US people a favor in the case of the cia agents. Good riddance.
 
Hez gets most of its money and weapons from Iran.

Hez is the butt baby of the org that did this to Buckley. Fuck Hez. Bomb them and Hamas into dust.




Major General Carl Stiner stated that "Buckley's kidnapping had become a major CIA concern. Not long after his capture, his agents either vanished or were killed. It was clear that his captors had tortured him into revealing the network of agents he had established."[25] According to the United States, Buckley had undergone 15 months of torture by Hezbollah before his death. After Buckley's kidnapping, three videos of Buckley being tortured were sent to the CIA in Athens. Interpreters noticed puncture marks indicating he was injected with narcotics. According to several sources, as a result of his torture, he signed a 400-page statement detailing his CIA activities.[5][26] In a video taken approximately seven months after the kidnapping, his appearance was described as follows:

Worth noting that around the same time in West Beirut... c. 1985 IIRC, Hezbollah or whoever they were at the time... kidnapped four Soviet diplomats/assumed intelligence officers from KGB or GRU. Demands were made to the Soviets.

Within hours, a relative of one of the radical Shia leaders disappeared off the street. His genitals were shortly thereafter delivered to the Shia Leader. In a box. Along with the head. That had a bullet hole in it. Rumor had it that the genitals were stuffed in the mouth of the relative's head.

The Soviet prisoners were released immediately and throughout the 'troubles' in Beirut, no Soviet was ever touched again.

It's what those people understand. It's why rules of engagement are simply rules designed to sacrifice your own youth and chances of victory....

Sirhr
 
Warning: if anti-Israeli government/establishment statements (NOT anti-Jewish as a people who don’t deserve to live ones, I didn’t see that in here), then keep scrolling.

I have questions for this Jew in British Parliament: he seems thoughtful and has decided what is right based on whatever metric he is using. However, how has he been voting regarding Ukraine, where they are pushing out Orthodox Christians, stealing money and bombing civilians? How did he vote on the Covid disaster? Climate change? Home-based terrorism from immigration?

All of these things matter. Many of them are not unrelated. While Israel is the shiny ball at the moment, the rest of these issues continue unabated and now out of sight. Again.

 


People’s might largely get along if the devil didn’t insert himself in an organized manner into their governments.

They are instead steered into conflict and further control via..

Education, Finance, Politics, and Religions.

Picking a side without recognizing the underlying problem humanity has faced for millennia is ignorant.

All of this is biblical and ignored. We were warned yet turned our back on wisdom. Now we all will, in these generations, be led by the nose into captivity and then armageddon.

Buckle up buttercups.
 
People’s might largely get along if the devil didn’t insert himself in an organized manner into their governments.

They are instead steered into conflict and further control via..

Education, Finance, Politics, and Religions.

Picking a side without recognizing the underlying problem humanity has faced for millennia is ignorant.

All of this is biblical and ignored. We were warned yet turned our back on wisdom. Now we all will, in these generations, be led by the nose into captivity and then armageddon.

Buckle up buttercups.
I think this hits the nail in the head. We are allowing evil forces and evil people do things that should not be - on all sides. No one side is innocent, and people not in power are continually the victims. Some are willing to go along with it. We the world will reap what we have sown. Probably not the most popular statement, but I have not found evidence that contradicts it. Dark days are coming.