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Stainless Steel Media Testimonials

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These are some showing the difference between factory NEW LC 223 brass from Grafs and freshly tumbled for 2 hours.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suasponte</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FTB:

Was the brass like that after your soak? Kinda looks like galvanic action between touching cases that was sitting there soaking! I had that happen once coming home from the range when I let them sit too long without aggitation.

Try re-running them and see if it resolves. It worked on some of the brass I had it happen to.

I try to avoid prolonged soaks without shaking the brass around.

Terry</div></div>

I reran the affected brass today for 6-1/2 hours. Took it out right after stopping the tumbling. All the brass looked bronze colored and not shiny at all, but the spots were gone.

I went back and searched on dull brass within this thread and found some that said the carbon had settled on it. The water did have black color to it. Should I retumble yet again, or what?

Thanks a lot.
 
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Run just your media as a cleaning cycle! Rinse the media well!

Then, re-run that brass.

Terry
 
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You'll love this. I've got half a mind to drop these misguided souls an e-mail correcting their errors. I don't like seeing someone getting credit for another person's efforts.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skyking</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is some cool pictures that a friend sent me

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These are the EXACT SAME pic's as posted on this website; http://www.accurateshooter.com/featured/brass-cleaning-with-stainless-media/
Pretty big coincidence.
And taking credit where it shouldn't be.
 
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The article at 6br makes no mention of Mark or Terry. Young guy seems to take all credit for someone else's idea. AG
 
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There is a certain banner ad that runs on the SH site that I get tired of seeing. And, it seems to come up often.
 
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I just saw he's also advertising as his sig line.
Isn't that illegal on this board?
 
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Is this a thread about socialism vs. capitalism? It seems pretty anti-capitalism recently...
 
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I just got done tumbling a batch of 308 and normally I stand in front of a bucket of water and take each piece out of the rinse water one by one to make sure there is no media left in the brass.

What a pain. I have an older franklin media separator the one thats not round and won't fit in a bucket.

I used the media separator in a small camping type was tub filled with water. I was pretty darn skeptical and didn't think all the media would come out so after I ran the brass through the wash tub with the media separator I dumped all the brass in another bucket and did the old one by one fill with water and dump trick.

I did not have one pin left in any of the 100 or so pieces of brass. f__king amazing. I know what I'm not going to do any more.
 
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Thanks to Terry and Mark for making this process available. Capitalism isn't about stealing or horning in on what someone has invented or thought up, but Socialism sure is.

Capitalism honors the entrepreneurial spirit which thinks of a product or need for the consumer and supplies said product or need at a price the consumer is willing to pay.

Personally I'd never think of doing business with someone who obviously is trying to take advantage of the path that Terry and Mark have plowed.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crjeeper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is this a thread about socialism vs. capitalism? It seems pretty anti-capitalism recently... </div></div>

That depends if there's Plagerism involved, and there is.
Mark is THE guy who started this craze, but they make no mention of him.
 
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Would like to give this ss media a try, please send supplier info.
Thanks
 
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Pretty slick system... I just ran my first batch and I'll never go back.

I am curious as to who thought this up in the first place, and how the concept came to them. It's just too clever and simple!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Volman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would like to give this ss media a try, please send supplier info.
Thanks </div></div>

Pm sent for contact info.

Terry
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Guns and Labs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pretty slick system... I just ran my first batch and I'll never go back.

I am curious as to who thought this up in the first place, and how the concept came to them. It's just too clever and simple! </div></div>

The guy that supplies the media,Mark came up with this idea year's ago and sat on it till recently.Hence the P.M.'s on his contact info.He doesn't want to be posted on any board's on the WWW.
Call him and have a good long talk, he's a wealth if info!
 
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He really is. Very nice guy and a hell of a story. I won't be doing business with the website guy. Get the contact on here via PM and they will take care of you.

Also...coupon code "online" no longer works. $176 shipped is the cheapest deal I can find thus far.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: burkeknives</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Could someone please PM me with contact info for the fellow I need to get my stainless media from.

Thanks
Jim </div></div>

Pm Sent Jim!

Terry
 
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Ok you got me hooked. Can i get some supplier info please.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DucatiRon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok you got me hooked. Can i get some supplier info please.
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PM sent for info

Terry

Poll Results as of 12/4/2010 at 8:00pm EST

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What's the thought on using stainless media with match brass?? Is there any worry about denting the case mounths at all??
 
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I love my SS media tumbler but was about to do some 300 weatherby cases and thought I'd ask this before I did. Can you tumble nickel plated brass in ss media? Also as I typed this can you anneal nickle plated brass? Just never thought about it.
AHA
Rad
 
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After doing some research and reading reviews of STM I decided to give them a call and see how effective it truly was.
I'm very glad I did. Being a serious accuracy nut I know the importance of consistancy and eliminating all the variables possible to allow me to achieve tiny little groups at 1000 yards, and very clean brass is always a good start for many reasons.
I'm 100% satisfied with the results and it's the best cleaning method I've ever used.

Tom Sarver
Current IBS 1000 Yard World Record Holder Light Gun Group and Score
Group 1.397" five shots Score 50/5 x's
 
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Terry, can you pm or email me supplier info. I'm ready to give it a try.
 
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I just finished my first run on my "Magnetic Tumbler". For those who don't know what one is and don't care to look back over an earlier post, it is a spinning disk with four neodymium magnets arranged in a diamond fashion under a bowl of the stainless media, water, citric acid and soap.

Mine has an ~8" disk spins somewhere around 2500 rpm. I used a 'Harbor Freight' brand polisher/sander for the bearing and motor. The container is a trashcan that appears to be acrylic and about 10" in diameter and 15 inches tall. I used about a gallon of water and put 32 7.62X51 brass and a few handgun rounds as I wanted to see how the inside of some several times fired and never really cleaned brass would come out. I ran it 30 minutes.

The brass is spotless. The primer pockets are clean.

When I ran the machine testing, dry, it was popping the little stainless pins about a foot high. Previously, I had used a vibrating tumbler and the stainless media. The new machine does in 30 minutes what it took new, clean dry media 8 hours.

I am now running a new batch with a lot of brass (200?). I'll pull the load in a few minutes and report back with number of cases and how well it worked. Again, this will be a 30 minute run.

Ron
 
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Ron:

Can you post photo's of this? Or even better video via youtube!

I would love to see this in action!

Terry
 
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Well Terry,

I'd be hard pressed to do a video. I still need to take pictures of the machine and post them. My present computer does not have the ability to accept an SD card and I don't have the software on it to crop pictures to acceptable sizes.

The second run was 210 cases of 7.62X51. They didn't come out as polished as the first run of fewer cases but they are better than my later runs of dry vibrator after the pins got dirty. The cases were still pretty clean (dry vibrating) but lacked the brightness of the first runs with new pins.

I'll see what I can do about posting a few pictures and maybe some drawings of the machine I built. I think I am about $70 in cost so far, not including my worthless labor. I learned a bit and will probably build a second with 'improvements' ... as if change is always an improvement.

Ron
 
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Google "photofiltre" and get the free shareware version! It is what I use to scale down, crop, and fix up all my picts. Easy to use!

I use a USB cable straiight from my camera and windows explorer to drag and drop from the camera to whatever directory you make for them.

Hope this helps.

Terry
 
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Terry,

I'm pretty familiar with 'how', I just need the connection to the computer. I run LINUX software rather than the virus out of Redmond. The problem is I have a computer without an outside port. I know that is rare but, that is where I am right now.

I am also challenged in the fact I hate taking photos as well as being in photos. I do have cameras for documentation. I seldom document stuff with a camera. It might take 8 hours to complete a project like this little tumbler. I will build the improved one in about 4. If I document, the time can double. Take picture, do procedure, stop clean hands of glue, take picture, put camera in safe place, do procedure, stop clean hands, take picture .....


Edit to add this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_FpiTzVYP8

http://www.rchristopher.com/tech/tumbler.html

"These ain't me."

I did roughly follow the rchristopher plans but used a 'Harbor Freight' polisher/sander and put a steel plate over a grinding disk to better conduct the magnetic flux of 4 - 1" square X 1/2" thick magnets.

Ron

 
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Ok, I need some accurate supplier info also.. via pm please
I've seen a webpage, but want to make sure I get it from the person who came up with the idea.
I am currently researching the 50+ page thread for a cheaper rotary tumbler.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ron Morrison</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">I like it because it requires less attention and <span style="color: #FF0000">no acid is involved</span>.</span>

Ron</div></div>

If your using LemiShine, your dumping an acid on your brass(from the website on LemiShine).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Lemi Shine is an all natural product composed of n<span style="font-weight: bold">atural fruit oils and acids</span> and contains no phosphates.</div></div>



I digress.....





Does anyone offer some sort of 'package deal', you know....offer everything needed in one package, shipped and ready to use for a low price. Just a thought...



Scott
 
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OK Scott,

I'll tackle this one.

Let's say I buy a big box of the media for $10 a pound and $1 a pound shipping. My cost is $11 a pound.

I get a 'deal' on the tumblers so I can buy them for 75% of retail. That would be about $150. I also go to WallyWorld and purchase some magic powder.

Now, I repackage this, taking 1/4 hour of my time. I want to do this because I can make a little money. After all, I am out $400-500 on media, ~$1500 on the tumblers and $50 on magic powders. I take my $210 cost and add 30%.... ~$275 plus shipping.

OOPS, this is no longer a low price. I have 10 'units' and NO guarantee of sales.

Ron
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wdyasq</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK Scott,

I'll tackle this one.

Let's say I buy a big box of the media for $10 a pound and $1 a pound shipping. My cost is $11 a pound.

I get a 'deal' on the tumblers so I can buy them for 75% of retail. That would be about $150. I also go to WallyWorld and purchase some magic powder.

Now, I repackage this, taking 1/4 hour of my time. I want to do this because I can make a little money. After all, I am out $400-500 on media, ~$1500 on the tumblers and $50 on magic powders. I take my $210 cost and add 30%.... ~$275 plus shipping.

OOPS, this is no longer a low price. I have 10 'units' and NO guarantee of sales.

Ron </div></div>


Are you drinking?

You made absolutely no sense.....

Scott
 
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what he's saying is, if someone put together a package deal like this, they'd be out of pocket ~$2000 before they got any sales and it's uncertain if anyone would actually purchase them..
 
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104 pages of responses, not going count up all of the "Where do I get this stuff from"-replies...but I bet there's a lot. I think this would be a better venture then say stocking ammo, rifle stocks, barrel blanks, and a few other things. Maybe not 175gr Berger VLD in .30caliber?


Getting everything shipped from one place would even be better then having to go here for the tumbler, and there for the media. Water comes from the tap, Dawn comes from the local hometown Harps, never seen this LemiShine stuff...



Scott
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sdb777</div><div class="ubbcode-body">104 pages of responses, not going count up all of the "Where do I get this stuff from"-replies...but I bet there's a lot. I think this would be a better venture then say stocking ammo, rifle stocks, barrel blanks, and a few other things. Maybe not 175gr Berger VLD in .30caliber?


Getting everything shipped from one place would even be better then having to go here for the tumbler, and there for the media. Water comes from the tap, Dawn comes from the local hometown Harps, never seen this LemiShine stuff...



Scott</div></div>

There is a Banner Add here on the Hide that takes care of all of that. STM
 
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What I don't understand is why someone who is trying to horn in on a process that somebody else started doesn't have the common decency to stay out of the thread started by the person who pioneered the process.

Terry (suasponte) and Mark (the anonymous supplier) have done more than anyone could hope for in figuring out this process and making it public here. Obviously they don't want to get involved in selling tumblers as well.

Since you are reading this thread that means you have the ability to do a Google search and find the best price on a tumbler yourself.

I'd say the learning process is ongoing as people freely make known here the various ideas they have on drying methods and this new mangetic tumbler idea.

So far all I've seen is that stainless media.com is trying to take credit for something they didn't invent, but are trying to make a buck from.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seawalker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What I don't understand is why someone who is trying to horn in on a process that somebody else started doesn't have the common decency to stay out of the thread started by the person who pioneered the process.

Terry (suasponte) and Mark (the anonymous supplier) have done more than anyone could hope for in figuring out this process and making it public here. Obviously they don't want to get involved in selling tumblers as well.

Since you are reading this thread that means you have the ability to do a Google search and find the best price on a tumbler yourself.

I'd say the learning process is ongoing as people freely make known here the various ideas they have on drying methods and this new mangetic tumbler idea.

So far all I've seen is that stainless media.com is trying to take credit for something they didn't invent, but are trying to make a buck from. </div></div>

Here Here!
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Dead beat's are dead beat's no matter how they try to hide it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: zuke</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seawalker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What I don't understand is why someone who is trying to horn in on a process that somebody else started doesn't have the common decency to stay out of the thread started by the person who pioneered the process.

Terry (suasponte) and Mark (the anonymous supplier) have done more than anyone could hope for in figuring out this process and making it public here. Obviously they don't want to get involved in selling tumblers as well.

Since you are reading this thread that means you have the ability to do a Google search and find the best price on a tumbler yourself.

I'd say the learning process is ongoing as people freely make known here the various ideas they have on drying methods and this new mangetic tumbler idea.

So far all I've seen is that stainless media.com is trying to take credit for something they didn't invent, but are trying to make a buck from. </div></div>

Here Here!
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Dead beat's are dead beat's no matter how they try to hide it. </div></div>

+1000 for that statement.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wdyasq</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> ~~snip~~

Edit to add this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_FpiTzVYP8

http://www.rchristopher.com/tech/tumbler.html

"These ain't me."

I did roughly follow the rchristopher plans but used a 'Harbor Freight' polisher/sander and put a steel plate over a grinding disk to better conduct the magnetic flux of 4 - 1" square X 1/2" thick magnets.

Ron</div></div>

Very creative. Thanks for posting those vids.
I like DIY solutions to commercial products so it's very much appreciated! (...even if it isn't you or your specific build.)
Excellent!

BTW,
I'm looking for source info on these SS pins, too!

~Mutt
 
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PM Terry, (Suasponte)and he will send you the info to reach Mark the guy who came up with the process. Terry responds regularly to this thread, so you should be able to reach him easily.

This method is far superior to anything else I've tried.
 
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Thank you, Seawalker.

I'm getting satisfactory results from ultrasonic cleaning, but I'm still having to touch up primer pockets with qtips while they're still wet. While I'm <span style="text-decoration: underline">not</span> in the market for a new tumbler <span style="font-size: 8pt">(laid off...thanks for focusing on jobs and the economy...)</span> I can definitely see building a magnetic contraption such as the ones in videos posted by wdyasq. It should be a fine winter project.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: FoxtrotBravo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suasponte</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FTB:

Was the brass like that after your soak? Kinda looks like galvanic action between touching cases that was sitting there soaking! I had that happen once coming home from the range when I let them sit too long without aggitation.

Try re-running them and see if it resolves. It worked on some of the brass I had it happen to.

I try to avoid prolonged soaks without shaking the brass around.

Terry</div></div>

I reran the affected brass today for 6-1/2 hours. Took it out right after stopping the tumbling. All the brass looked bronze colored and not shiny at all, but the spots were gone.

I went back and searched on dull brass within this thread and found some that said the carbon had settled on it. The water did have black color to it. Should I retumble yet again, or what?

Thanks a lot.</div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: suasponte</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Run just your media as a cleaning cycle! Rinse the media well!

Then, re-run that brass.

Terry</div></div>

I tumbled just the media for a couple of hours (I think), and then rinsed really well. The pins were visibly shinier than before. I then tumbled the "bronze brass" and it came out a lot better.



Left to right:
1) a case from the first batch that did not turn bronze
2) a "bronze" case held back for comparison
3) one of the "bronze" cases after washing with clean media
4) 6.5 Grendel found at range and washed with the "bronze" cases
5) 9mm case used for measuring Lemi Shine
6) 380 case found at range and washed with the "bronze" cases

I thought the difference between #1 and #3 was interesting.

One thing I will say, is that I will definitely be paying more attention to rinsing the media well! I had it in a gallon bucket sloshing around in clean water and pouring it off. Repeated a few times.
 
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My media looks like sterling silver! It actually shines like a mirror. I beleive the more cycles you get on it the better it gets.

I run just the media with 1oz ivory soap, and a tsp of Citranox for 2-3 hours, I then dump all that ito a plastic tub that I drilled a bunch of holes smaller than the media diameter. Set it under the tap and let the water run until it runs clear.

Citranox is not required in the cleaning cycle! The regular recipe will suffice!

Terry
 
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