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^^^^^^^^^those pics tell us diddly jack and fucking shit, except that roll stamp looks like shit
I think Red Jacket uses that same sales pitch and hopefully its NOT found anywhere else.
This is hilarious. But seriously, if TR has been in business for as long as it has, where are the legitimate owners and reviews?? I'm being totally serious. I've never seen a single review online. All there is are these pawns that come on here posting fed lines about the company that naturally lead one who's never handled one of their rifles to be totally sketched out my their shady and childish marketing practices.
Also [MENTION=104260]Mark Florida[/MENTION] , I live in Georgia and wouldn't mind coming down to Florida for a weekend to meet up with some other Hiders and shoot some of those rifles. Or we could meet half way. Whatever tickles your fancy
Also [MENTION=104260]Mark Florida[/MENTION] , I live in Georgia and wouldn't mind coming down to Florida for a weekend to meet up with some other Hiders and shoot some of those rifles. Or we could meet half way. Whatever tickles your fancy
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Chances are op doesn't come back. Unless I missed it, there were no mention of what yards the group was shot at. Or if he was using a lead sled. These shills post a pic or two of what they want to show, but never a pic that is requested. And it's always there first post to come on and talk big about tr.net and then vanish off in the sunset.
Real internet snipers can tell by looking that tennon, that the threads and chamber is concentric down to 0.000000000001"
To be fair to their unsuspecting customers, there have been some flattering reviews on other sites such as Tactical Rifles M40T4 - Sniper Central. I have no doubt that TR has produced some great shooting rifles(look at all the instances of $600 factory rifles that happen to shoot .5 moa). I also have almost no doubt TR has produced some really poor guns also. Some have popped up on here. The rub is, when you are charging $4K plus for a rifle, there is no excuse for producing bad rifles. Especially ones that have flaws that obvious under very basic inspection like a crappy bedding job and corrosion.
If I would have cut that tenon on that barrel I would have to punch myself in the dick.
At a glance there is several things wrong with the way it is machined.
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At a glance there is several things wrong with the way it is machined.
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Holy crap.. you guys are f'n vicious. All I am saying is that I bought two rifles. One built in or around 2004, a 308 and a 6.5x47 Lapua in 2013 and they both shoot better than I do! I would be happy for any of you to shoot either one........if you promise not to shoot me first! SHIT!
Well I've known A.B. Dow awhile and talked to him in his shop last Oct. Interesting conversation we had about things in Dade City where I moved from in 93 and Z-hills. Z-hills ain't that were,.... Oh never mind it's late and I need my meds,...
I will tell you that if you are on the up n up about your rifles that is cool but the Hide is not a place to be if you are thin skinned. So take that for what it is worth. There has been some bad , for a kind word, interactions between TR and the owners of the hide. By the way this thread has gone I would advise you to use the search box. It does not take an IQ over your shoe size to have figured that out. Now put on your big boy panties and show some pics and don't get all butt hurt if someone here has some fun with you. Give some details everyone loves gun porn.
I see a lack of threads or 40~50% of the total thread length unthreaded / left at the major diameter.
Its an odd thread relief......
( I like AI's approach for barrel mounting and they don't sue the customer )
I don't think anyone is trying to be vicious, it's just posts like yours tend to happen like clockwork. Some one with a fresh membership will post up a whole bunch of claims of how bad ass their TR.net rifle is and never show proof. The posts are usually full of hard to believe stories like X amount of confirmed kills in Iraq or Afghanistan with a TR rifle, rapid fire 5 shot group at 500 yards that fit into a tactical quarter, etc. Lots of bullshit with no solid proof to back it up, and the way the post are written seem like they all come from the same source. Now I'm not saying that your full of shit, just what I've seen when it comes to new members touting their TR rifles. If you do in fact have some nicely built TR rifles then post up some pics of fit, finish, targets, etc.
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It's called being vetted by your peers, something that TR has consistently failed at here in the past.
And, in the last seven years on this Site, I've never seen a new pos(t)er be as accused as you were without either defending themselves on the facts or showing a hint of being upset beyond using the first letter of the word 'fuck'.
Either you are the nicest, kindest, most tolerant uninformed member ever to post here, or you have an agenda.
Don't confuse truthfulness with viciousness, the former being a complete defense to slander.
It's called being vetted by your peers, something that TR has consistently failed at here in the past.
And, in the last seven years on this Site, I've never seen a new pos(t)er be as accused as you were without either defending themselves on the facts or showing a hint of being upset beyond using the first letter of the word 'fuck'.
Either you are the nicest, kindest, most tolerant uninformed member ever to post here, or you have an agenda.
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What you are say is all well and good. What I can tell you is there are several gunsmiths in this country that can build rifles that are very accurate, cost less, have better customer service with shorter lead times, and aren't lawyering up and suing good people.
My question to you is why wouldn't you pick a better gunsmith?
I'm not one to call a stranger a liar. Mark, you will accomplish nothing getting into a shouting match here. The ship of public opinion has sailed. This is a tight knit group (I'm not counting myself in) that has made up their minds. No dialogue will change that.
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If his posts result in him being perceived as less than truthful by the community then he is free to correct that. That's how this Site works to vet information. It's one of the things that this Site is good at - what sets it apart from so many others.
He is not being targeted. He is not being censored or banned simply because he might represent a company or have an opinion about that company.
We have indeed come to conclusions about him and his information. But I don't agree with you that 'no dialogue will change that'. Him posting facts might change that ...... If he has them.
No one is calling him a liar: We are looking at his posts, his words, his claims and his proof, and the community is coming to conclusions based on them. It's called scrutiny. It's democratic. And it's not a bad thing unless you fear it.
If his posts result in him being perceived as less than truthful by the community then he is free to correct that. That's how this Site works to vet information. It's one of the things that this Site is good at - what sets it apart from so many others.
He is not being targeted. He is not being censored or banned simply because he might represent a company or have an opinion about that company.
We have indeed come to conclusions about him and his information. But I don't agree with you that 'no dialogue will change that'. Him posting facts might change that ...... If he has them.
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Eddie posted a video on YouTube as proof of his groups with a TR.net rifle @ 500 yards and covered it with a tactical quarter... in fact TR.Net lauded his efforts on their own page.
Would you consider his less than an inch group @ 500 yards a validation of the facts ? Or something more akin to fraud ?
Would you consider his less than an inch group @ 500 yards a validation of the facts ? Or something more akin to fraud ?
He certainly inspired the video, because he did walk the whole way with the camera on as a demonstration of it's validity
I'm still waiting for the shills to be exposed. By name, screen name, which vendor they work for etc. Once TR made these claims, but lacked any data, and have never posted any examples ( to my knowledge) I've begun to wonder if there had been some sort of hallucinogen in the water supply in TR's part of Florida. I'm saying that there is/was, just that to make those type of claims, but never backing it up with any examples leads me to believe there must be something effecting their brains.....just saying.
Mark is showcased on their FB page, if your interested (https://www.facebook.com/TacticalRifles.net/posts/768129316540602)
20 rounds center to center at .36, there is a whole box of ammo in those groups posted, not 5, or 10, but 20 shots according to TR...
All you wanabe snipers only wish you could do the work that tr.net does. If Mark in Florida has someone hold his rifle while he grabs the barrel of the tr.net rifle he owns,
and turns it counterclockwise with a sudden jerk there's a chance the barrel then can be unscrewed. I tried this with one of their rifles they built for a friend of mine and it came right off. Once I got it off I could clearly see the craftsmanship they preform and the very close tolerances, and the micrometer reading of the major diameter of thread tenon is proof of it. They can hold tolerances well within 1 whole revolution of the micrometer barrel. If someone can enlarge this photo all you wannabes can see for yourself.
and turns it counterclockwise with a sudden jerk there's a chance the barrel then can be unscrewed. I tried this with one of their rifles they built for a friend of mine and it came right off. Once I got it off I could clearly see the craftsmanship they preform and the very close tolerances, and the micrometer reading of the major diameter of thread tenon is proof of it. They can hold tolerances well within 1 whole revolution of the micrometer barrel. If someone can enlarge this photo all you wannabes can see for yourself.
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This thread smells. If u got a good rifle post a pic of it and your accomplishments with it. Who cares who made it.
If as the op stated there are negative reviews about the maker on this board that u r aware of why try to sell the brand unless u got a dog in the fight.
If as the op stated there are negative reviews about the maker on this board that u r aware of why try to sell the brand unless u got a dog in the fight.
My eyes have never been good, but the best group on that picture looks to be closer to .4" than .18".
Last time I checked one revolution was .025 on my mic......
Those threads appear as if they belong on black pipe.
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Those threads appear as if they belong on black pipe.
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It would be cool if this guy got to go shoot with some Florida members of the Hide. I mean that.
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I so wish they would sell crazy someplace else, whether their chief spokesperson is truly 'ride in a car' qualified to be a passenger in a real car in the honest-to-goodness Middle East.... or not.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NphgWi1nUt4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xsZPWsVNTqo
I so wish they would sell crazy someplace else, whether their chief spokesperson is truly 'ride in a car' qualified to be a passenger in a real car in the honest-to-goodness Middle East.... or not.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NphgWi1nUt4
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xsZPWsVNTqo
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I never would have thought that one person holding the gun and another grabbing the barrel and turning it out with his hands would ever be a good thing, ever. That to me sounds really bad and to measure the tolerances the way you are showing seems kinda silly.
Mabey you could tell me where in PA you are and I would come to take a look at what you and your friend have and give it a try, then you can shoot mine and post on here what you think as I would be doing the same so everyone can read and see.
Post here if you agree.
sooooooo you can just unscrew a TR.net rifle's barrel by hand? I read that right? your words not mine
I'm no mechanical engineer but a firearm that the barrel can be removed by hand is .....................not good
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No mames. Por favor, ya callate el osico, guey. Poras pinches mamadas y mierdas nadamas.
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