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All terminus actions are stellar! The Zeus just offers the hand tight barrel change feature and the Aesthetics of the slab action. Personally I wanted the Zeus so buying an Apollo I would have regretted in the end wishing I would have gotten the Zeus. Saving the 300 if you don’t care get the Apollo but I learned long ago that saving that 300 is years of slight regret for not getting exactly what you wanted in the first place. Ends up costing you more in the long run or constant wonder/though of what if
I have 2 apollo actions. They are amazing. I have them both built the same way. 26 inch mTU stainless with Fatbastard breaks in 223 and one in 260. They are Hammers. The owner is amazing.
Ordered the Zeus yesterday. Joel was awesome and very helpful.
Just ordered the Apollo, can't wait to build this rig.
I hate to say it but so far I'm pretty disappointed. Having feeding issues with all of my mag and chassis set ups. Going to play with it some more over the next week and hopefully get it running smooth. Otherwise it's going to be up on the market and I'll just stick to Impacts.
What chassis, mags, and ammo?
3 different MDTs
AW, AICS and MDT. With and without BR spacers.
Tried several different mag catches and lengths.
AW, AICS and MDT. With and without BR spacers.
Tried several different mag catches and lengths.
Look on Terminus site, there’s a tab with specs of all the thread tenon. Just wondering if a the chamber chamfer was added to your barrel.
Here’s the link:
terminusactions.com
Here’s the link:
Tenon Prints | TERMINUS ACTIONS | Download Tennon Guides Here
Tenon Prints for all Terminus actions can be downloaded here. If you have any questions do not hesitate to contact us by phone or email.
terminusactions.com I think I've made some progress. Played around with some of my AICS mags and got it feeding well now. Changed out the followers to add a little spring tension.Look on Terminus site, there’s a tab with specs of all the thread tenon. Just wondering if a the chamber chamfer was added to your barrel.
Here’s the link:
Tenon Prints | TERMINUS ACTIONS | Download Tennon Guides Here
Tenon Prints for all Terminus actions can be downloaded here. If you have any questions do not hesitate to contact us by phone or email.
Bartlein has chambered my last 3 or 4 barrels and they all have had a chamfer so I'm not sure that was the issue. I'm leaning towards mags at this point, being the culprit
Looks like you’re shooting a 6br? MDT makes magazines specifically for this and I’ve had great success with them. However there are unicorns and it’s impossible to find one.
That's what I had been using. Worked decent in my Impact. Not so well in the Terminus. I have twoore AICS mags on the way and I'll swap out the followers with the MDT kits. See if I can establish a pattern
ah, yea i'm sure bartlein installed them correctly.
They feed AW mags so id assume a double stack long action works
What mags and what chassis?
According to Joel these are BDL and AICS single stack only. I think you'd have to open the bottom a bunch more to feed from an AI true double stack mag.
They do for the axmc/sr, not the for the chassis.
So for my rem 700 ai axsr chassis. Am i hosed on a 300wm cip mag. Take a 5 round if i have 2
Id guess MDT to the rescue shortly. But yeah that confirms what I thought. Nothing for R700 right now
Yes. You have the chassis already? If it came with a single stack 338 5 rd mag, theres your answer. No matter, its not like you’ll need the room with your 7 saum.
Yes it come with a 338 cip single stack mag. I don't need the room just need a 300wm mag. These 7 saums r to loose with the feed lip and brass will go past the rear of the mag.
You may want to call on this. After some thought, what you are trying to do wouldnt have worked in the AX chassis. A 300wm mag wont go in the 338 and vice versa. Im a little foggy, which is why I say call. The SR may have changed things.
Here are a couple options :
https://accurate-mag.com/shop/magazines/300-win-mag-sssf-magazine/ (choose the 3.850 option for CIP length)
Or
mdttac.com
https://accurate-mag.com/shop/magazines/300-win-mag-sssf-magazine/ (choose the 3.850 option for CIP length)
Or
Shop MDT AICS Magazines for Bolt Action Rifles
MDT AICS Magazines offer reliable feeding in your hunting or competition bolt action rifle. Available in 3 to 12 round and polymer or metal from .223 to .338.
mdttac.com Ahh so ya mdt makes a cip 300wm 5 round i see. So that should work. Appreciate itHere are a couple options :
https://accurate-mag.com/shop/magazines/300-win-mag-sssf-magazine/ (choose the 3.850 option for CIP length)
Or
Shop MDT AICS Magazines for Bolt Action Rifles
MDT AICS Magazines offer reliable feeding in your hunting or competition bolt action rifle. Available in 3 to 12 round and polymer or metal from .223 to .338.
You need to find out if that mag fits in the 338 chassis.
I dont no y it wouldn't. Long as it aics with cip length
I thought that too, and sold a bunch of mismatched chassis for the customer applications. Its just been too long for me to remember.
Dumb question but.
I have a Apollo lite and barrel incoming. It’s as simple as clamping the barrel and torquing the action then go shoot?
What is the torque spec? Thanks
I have a Apollo lite and barrel incoming. It’s as simple as clamping the barrel and torquing the action then go shoot?
What is the torque spec? Thanks
I use 65 ft lbs on just about everything. But you will need the action wrench from terminus.
Action Wrench | TERMINUS ACTIONS | The Premium 3-Lug Rifle Action
The Terminus premium action wrench is precision machined of solid stainless steel. Available for all Terminus actions.
terminusactions.com Yes sir, barrel vise, action wrench, 7/8 socket, ans torque wrench
Thanks yes I have the wrench
Alright, i want to add to this question... What if its a prefit barrel and using a barrel nut, would you still need the action wrench?
It helps, yes. How else will you lock it up. You don't need it, but it's worth having if you can afford it.
I've heard of torques from 50 to 80ftlbs. Generally I use 60 or 65 for 95% of the actions I work with. Rarely is it higher.
I've heard of torques from 50 to 80ftlbs. Generally I use 60 or 65 for 95% of the actions I work with. Rarely is it higher.
When using a barrel nut on a prefit, you are torquing the nut itself to the action after ensuring proper headspace.
When using a shouldered prefit, the action wrench is what is used to torque the barrel to the action.
There’s also no reason to use a barrel nut on the terminus.
Well i disagree, I personally intend to use a pre-fit barrel because i like the idea of being able to switch barrels with a few common tools without having to pay a smith to fit me a barrel. What's the disadvantage of using a pre-fit, aside from having an thicker barrel.
The Zeus has a quick change option. Can be installed hand tight and holds with set screws. Not to mention the tenon prints are publicly available and the tolerances so good the headspace will be good to go. If you want prefits, call bugholes. They sell hundreds of terminus prefits. No one uses the barrel nut. No one sends their actions in.
True the Zeus would have been a nice option but i didn't have that option in my budget. And never heard of bugholes, i'll check them out.
The tenon prints are available for all their actions.
Tenon Prints | TERMINUS ACTIONS | Download Tennon Guides Here
Tenon Prints for all Terminus actions can be downloaded here. If you have any questions do not hesitate to contact us by phone or email.
terminusactions.com any competent barrel smith should be able to make these.
Anyone know what the turn around time is when your order an action from them?weeks?months?
I’ve been waiting about 2 months. I’ve seen at as low as 30 days and there are some available from retailers here and there
My 223 Apollo lite was at my ffl right around 2 weeks after ordering
My Zeus just got delivered last week and it took 11 weeks
Ok cool...
Call and ask. Joel is awesome to work with. Turnaround on my Apollo Lite/Ti was 4 weeks.
He accepts texts too
