It looks like Springfield has payed attention to the aftermarket world. This looks like a pretty solid setup from the factory.
Model 2020 Waypoint Rifles - Springfield Armory
www.springfield-armory.com
Agreed. I would strongly consider for my hunting rig. Its nice to see quality aftermarket parts and features on a factory rifle instead of house brand stuff that will get replaced.Looks like a decent rifle. Hopefully its got decent QA (it has to be better than Remington). Im wary about the pricepoint and quality, especially since they will only guarantee .75 MOA.
But it does look like a good rifle and another option for people, especially hunters.
Looks like a decent rifle. Hopefully its got decent QA (it has to be better than Remington). Im wary about the pricepoint and quality, especially since they will only guarantee .75 MOA.
But it does look like a good rifle and another option for people, especially hunters.
I don’t blame Springfield for feeling obligated to put a 0.75 moa guarantee on their new rifle. If you’re late to the dance you gotta stimulate some interest and buzz and out the door sales. All in the face of a lot of well-established competition at a time when a lot of factory rifles routinely shoot sub moa out of the box with quality factory ammo.
Two or five years from now, if quality and accuracy are top-shelf, word will get around and the guarantee won't be essential.
Looks like a decent rifle. Hopefully its got decent QA (it has to be better than Remington). Im wary about the pricepoint and quality, especially since they will only guarantee .75 MOA.
But it does look like a good rifle and another option for people, especially hunters.
My thoughts exactly. If it performs, it will offer a lot of value for the money to someone looking at getting a new hunting rig.Options for a decent price never suck.
For a full featured rifle aimed at hunting, I think 0.75 MOA is pretty good for an accuracy guarantee.
I just looked and didnt see an MOA guarantee for the Havak.
I do like those Havaks though and have since they were released.
hard to spend the $ When my current hunting rifle just hammers.
Dont worry about that, they do it to CTA. A LOT of shooters cannot shoot any better than 3/4 MOA regardless of the rifle used. Just look at the terrible fundamentals used by most at the range.especially since they will only guarantee .75 MOA.
They've clearly got someone who's into long range shooting on their design team and want in to the growing segment.
That said, their 1911's have lots of the "right features" too and yet most of them are crap, not to mention the whole XD line of pistols are terrible and should've been discontinued/abandoned long ago.
To me, Springfield Armory = "the other Ruger" the way they jump on the trends and strive for mediocrity, making a zillion "ok-ish" models, but nothing amazing... They're good at marketing and selling guns though, just none I'd buy.
They're new Waypoint rifle looks way better than the Ruger RPR, but we will see.
I agree and I wasn't comparing them. I was responding to Ceekays post who said he thinks Springfield is the other Ruger.That's not a good comparison at all since Ruger doesn't offer anything similar to the Waypoint and they are on opposite ends of the spectrum.
I agree and I wasn't comparing them. I was responding to Ceekays post who said he thinks Springfield is the other Ruger.
Great review from a guy who admits he doesn't do a lot of long range shooting and wouldn't buy one as a result.
Let's hear from someone who does A LOT of long range HUNTING and SPORT SHOOTING.
Just came across this...
I agree. Especially when something is purpose designed. Have someone else test and write about it.we all know gun rags are just for fun, but nothing bothers me more than the author not being skilled in that "category".
That's the same tool that claims a mini 14 is better than an AR15 and that any pistol that doesn't say Glock is a piece of shit.
If he says something is great, I'm immediately suspicious..
If you want to base your decisions on information from an idiot like him, knock yourself out.Like gun manufacturers he's there to sell guns.
If you have a better review feel free to post it.
If you want to base your decisions on information from an idiot like him, knock yourself out.
Your reply shows that you know he wouldn't give factual information.
They've clearly got someone who's into long range shooting on their design team and want in to the growing segment.
That said, their 1911's have lots of the "right features" too and yet most of them are crap, not to mention the whole XD line of pistols are terrible and should've been discontinued/abandoned long ago.
To me, Springfield Armory = "the other Ruger" the way they jump on the trends and strive for mediocrity, making a zillion "ok-ish" models, but nothing amazing... They're good at marketing and selling guns though, just none I'd buy.
My XD missed that memo. 20k rounds and counting over the past 12 years. I occasionally clean it, nothing more.
What is the right pistol?
That's the same tool that claims a mini 14 is better than an AR15 and that any pistol that doesn't say Glock is a piece of shit.
If he says something is great, I'm immediately suspicious..
You mustn't let the daisy dukes consume youHe's so good looking, though...
Please point to where I said anything about the rifle. My point was, the person in the video is a lead paint eating moron.My decision was to provide a YouTube review of the rifle on the chance that it may be helpful for some.
But because of you, I plan to squat in a ditch and poke berries up my nose until there is sufficient evidence in your eyes about its viability.
Kindly post all of your (no doubt first hand) factual information on this rifle.
He's a dude with an opinion, I suppose like anyone else. I'm not privy to any motivations, mercenary or otherwise, that he may have.That's the same tool that claims a mini 14 is better than an AR15 and that any pistol that doesn't say Glock is a piece of shit.
If he says something is great, I'm immediately suspicious..
Don't forget thisNot personally motivated to buy anything from that company after two garbage handguns from them. But... it does look sweet.
Ruger actually makes functional firearms despite horrible autist aesthetics.They've clearly got someone who's into long range shooting on their design team and want in to the growing segment.
That said, their 1911's have lots of the "right features" too and yet most of them are crap, not to mention the whole XD line of pistols are terrible and should've been discontinued/abandoned long ago.
To me, Springfield Armory = "the other Ruger" the way they jump on the trends and strive for mediocrity, making a zillion "ok-ish" models, but nothing amazing... They're good at marketing and selling guns though, just none I'd buy.