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This definitely sucks. Submarine lost.

Have y'all seen the sub in question? That's an underwater casket if ever there was one. Alvin it ain't! Sad but it feels like there was some lowest bidder stuff going on.
The thing is operated by a game controller, and they are bolted in from the outside.... What could possibly go wrong?

Seriously, it's pretty hard to feel sorry for these people, anymore than the people who pay $65K+ to climb Mt. Everest, and don't make it.

Paying exorbitant sums of money to take unnecessary risks with minimal reward, is a bit like hitting yourself on the head with a hammer.... Because it feels good when you finally stop.
 
In case any of you guys have $250,000 burning a hole in your pocket here's an idea. Then, of course, there's whores and whiskey.

 
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I'm guessing the 19 year old passenger may have already choked to death the billionaire pilot who built it, as well as the CEO of the company that owns it. 40 percent increase in O2, and maybe well deserved? After all, they did promise an adventure and no refunds.
 
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I'm guessing the 19 year old passenger may have already choked to death the billionaire pilot who built it, as well as the CEO of the company that owns it. 40 percent increase in O2, and maybe well deserved? After all, they did promise an adventure and no refunds.

If the integrity on the carbon fiber sphere was lost, no one had time to know they died. The atmosphere would have ignited instantly and the occupants would have been crushed to organic jelly before they knew what happened.

Carbon fiber (untested) is not a good pressure vessel. Odds are the passenger compartment imploded and no one felt a thing.

Sirhr
 
Lot's of people making comments about the foolishness of spending $250K per person to explore the Titanic.

I would have found a way to get $250K for that trip. I would have gladly given my ex-wife the gift of a lifetime to go on that trip.
 
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In case any of you guys have $250,000 burning a hole in your pocket here's an idea. Then, of course, there's whores and whiskey.

Imma go with option #3. Stuff with giggle switches!
 
The seven surfacing mechanisms on board Titan. They include:

  • Three "enormous," "beat-up" lead construction pipes called "triple weights"
  • Two "roll weights"
  • Several ballast bags
  • Self-dissolving bonds on the ballast bags
  • Thrusters to propel the sub upward
  • Detachable sub legs
  • An airbag to inflate
The pipes, or "triple weights," as 2022 mission director Kyle Bingham told Pogue they were called, are hydraulically driven and can be operated from inside the vessel.

No electricity is required to operate them. When they drop away, the sub gains buoyancy.

If those don't work, the roll weights can be shifted off the sides of the sub
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-ne...n=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
 
They are reviewing the gamepad on Amazon lulz. Amazon is killing some of the reviews but have not caught all the questions like so
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Will this controller work to power my submarine? Planning on seeing the titanic in the ocean

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Yeah but, take a spare one in case yk



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Can i pilot a submarine with this?



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Is it compatible with the new submarine game, Titan?



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How is it on submarines?



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Is this a suitable controller to pilot a submersible?



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Can this controller pilot a small submarine?



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Can I use this to steer my submarine?

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You "can", however we would suggest something more appropriate than a $50 controller.



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· June 21, 2023
 
Here's a thought. Air Force pilots use to have a saying; "It's better to die than to sound bad over the radios."

With that in mind, if these people are rescued, imagine the level of embarrassment. I do hope and pray that they are all rescued but get a big bill for the services rendered from all the respective governments helping out.

However, back to my point. Imagine being the CEO and he turns on the news, the late night talk shows or looks at the internet. Everything he sees is something saying he was an idiot. That goes just a much for the passengers.

The embarrassment would be overwhelming. They may well wish they were dead if that happens.

There are worse things than death.
 
In case any of you guys have $250,000 burning a hole in your pocket here's an idea. Then, of course, there's whores and whiskey.

$250K to sit crosslegged for hours crammed in a homemade shortbus next to overgassed Pakastanis just to catch a glimpse of the Titanic though a smudgy 5" plexiglass porthole proves once again humans are that fucking stupid.
 
The damn thing is guided by a $30.00 controller. I wonder if they fought over whose turn it was to use it and broke it?
Somebody forgot to replace the batteries.

The CEO is a former pilot, and mentioned applying 'aerospace technology " to his submersible. I might submit that a deep diving submersible is a far more unforgiving environment than an airplane, As for eschewing "50 y/o white guys because he wants a more innovative spirit, those old guys have BTDT with a lot of those "new ideas" and understand shortcomings and weaknesses
Diversity hires - Not the first time it's killed people, will not be the last.

5 warm human corpses
Do they have battery power to keep it warm that long? Hypothermia is probably already kicking in.
 
Unless they're sitting on a pile of Dri-Z-Airs, the humidity has to be intense. 5 people breathing in an air tight confined space puts out a lot of moisture. That was one of the big issues with Apollo 13. At least they don't have much in the way of electronics to short out.
 
Bob Ballard, an expert on sub explosions, said at that depth a structural collapse would be at a velocity of around 19,000 mph or ~8500 meters per second compressing you into a little ball of pate.

The incredibly fast and violent compression of the air inside the vessel would basically cause everything to ignite like diesel fuel in a Diesel engine before snuffed out by water, all happening in a millisecond.

One air bubble might travel to the surface.
 
The seven surfacing mechanisms on board Titan. They include:

  • Three "enormous," "beat-up" lead construction pipes called "triple weights"
  • Two "roll weights"
  • Several ballast bags
  • Self-dissolving bonds on the ballast bags
  • Thrusters to propel the sub upward
  • Detachable sub legs
  • An airbag to inflate
The pipes, or "triple weights," as 2022 mission director Kyle Bingham told Pogue they were called, are hydraulically driven and can be operated from inside the vessel.

No electricity is required to operate them. When they drop away, the sub gains buoyancy.

If those don't work, the roll weights can be shifted off the sides of the sub
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-ne...n=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
Good lord...

This just gets better and better.

Talked with two 'sub buddies' today about this. The good news is that I came up with a cool idea for an academic paper. The 'rest' of the conversation was that anyone comparing these wizards to a Navy Crew is being really insulting to the Navy. Even they are shaking their heads at this.

Sirhr
 
Bob Ballard, an expert on sub explosions, said at that depth a structural collapse would be at a velocity of around 19,000 mph or ~8500 meters per second compressing you into a little ball of pate.

The incredibly fast and violent compression of the air inside the vessel would basically cause everything to ignite like diesel fuel in a Diesel engine before snuffed out by water, all happening in a millisecond.

One air bubble might travel to the surface.
This...

But has more weight coming from Bob Ballard than from post 159. ;-)

The Alvin and similar subs have incredibly precision-machined titanium sphere that is about 2 or 3 inches thick. You aren't going to get that integrity with carbon fiber. Period. And in pressure/depressure cycles, the carbon will delaminate. Stress crack. Read up on the British Avro Comet. Exactly the same concept.

Based on the post that the craft has self-releasing ballast... if the hull were intact, the weights should have dropped by now and bobbed up.

It's gone. A speck on the ocean floor. Alvin might find it. Eventually. There will be no rescue. No survivors. Probably no trace except by accident. The idea that they are 'running out of air awaiting rescue' is merely extending the drama so noone is paying attention to Hunter's sweetheart deal. Any coincidence it was announced during the Sub tragedy?

Pay no attention to the deal behind the curtain.

Sirhr
 
This...

But has more weight coming from Bob Ballard than from post 159. ;-)

The Alvin and similar subs have incredibly precision-machined titanium sphere that is about 2 or 3 inches thick. You aren't going to get that integrity with carbon fiber. Period. And in pressure/depressure cycles, the carbon will delaminate. Stress crack. Read up on the British Avro Comet. Exactly the same concept.

Based on the post that the craft has self-releasing ballast... if the hull were intact, the weights should have dropped by now and bobbed up.

It's gone. A speck on the ocean floor. Alvin might find it. Eventually. There will be no rescue. No survivors. Probably no trace except by accident. The idea that they are 'running out of air awaiting rescue' is merely extending the drama so noone is paying attention to Hunter's sweetheart deal. Any coincidence it was announced during the Sub tragedy?

Pay no attention to the deal behind the curtain.

Sirhr
But,but,but......there's banging sounds.......
 
Here's a thought. Air Force pilots use to have a saying; "It's better to die than to sound bad over the radios."

With that in mind, if these people are rescued, imagine the level of embarrassment. I do hope and pray that they are all rescued but get a big bill for the services rendered from all the respective governments helping out.

However, back to my point. Imagine being the CEO and he turns on the news, the late night talk shows or looks at the internet. Everything he sees is something saying he was an idiot. That goes just a much for the passengers.

The embarrassment would be overwhelming. They may well wish they were dead if that happens.

There are worse things than death.
The media would treat them like heroes instead of the idiots that they are.
We are living in an upside down world
 
And just for some light reading... This is how a DSV/DSRV is built properly.


Note that it is also for a crew of three highly-trained divers/submariners. Not for tourists. And even it had a couple of close calls.

Interesting reading. 2" titanium pressure sphere. I wonder if it was from the same load of titanium that the CIA conned out of the Soviets to build the SR71's. with. That was a great op, too! "We are making titanium Pizza Ovens in your socialist brother nation of Lesotho..." "Da, Comrade. We sell you Titanium." Ah ha ha ha haha. (Well, story goes something like that... )

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
It's interesting to compare this contraption to the vessel that James Cameron built to travel to the Challenger Deep. Cameron showed that a non government agency could build a successful DSV.

Oddly enough, Cameron used a small steel pressure sphere for himself. You can see it being forged in the movie he made of the adventure. It's on youtube, but it doesn't embed here. About 4 minutes in on "James Cameron's Deepsea Challenge"
 
Carbon fiber wrapping may work for rifle barrels but don’t get it exposed to more than 3000 atmospheres of water pressure.
 
Here's a thought. Air Force pilots use to have a saying; "It's better to die than to sound bad over the radios."

With that in mind, if these people are rescued, imagine the level of embarrassment. I do hope and pray that they are all rescued but get a big bill for the services rendered from all the respective governments helping out.

However, back to my point. Imagine being the CEO and he turns on the news, the late night talk shows or looks at the internet. Everything he sees is something saying he was an idiot. That goes just a much for the passengers.

The embarrassment would be overwhelming. They may well wish they were dead if that happens.

There are worse things than death.

No, this would not be worse than death. No fucks would be given.
 
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