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Suppressors Underground Skunkworks "OPERATOR" Series 2011

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Underground Skunkworks has finalized the design of our new "OPERATOR" Series of high capacity handguns. There are three versions to select from; The OPERATOR 3.0, OPERATOR 4.15 and OPERATOR 5.0. These are double stack 2011 style, high end tactical packages designed for carry and competition. The available calibers are 9mm, 40S&W and .45ACP. You can have any finish you want as long as it's black and there are a host of sight options available. Standby for photos and we'll be accepting deposits within a couple of weeks and there will be a group buy offered here on SH. Please contact me if you have any questions....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> You can have any finish you want as long as it's black </div></div>

Henry Ford style.
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Pay me to shoot it like STI does (contingency program) and I'll think about it.

I would want a 5" I guess because you're not offering a 6", with a light slide, fiber optic front, bomar style rear, grip reduction/stippling, undercut trigger guard....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pay me to shoot it like STI does (contingency program) and I'll think about it.

I would want a 5" I guess because you're not offering a 6", with a light slide, fiber optic front, bomar style rear, grip reduction/stippling, undercut trigger guard....</div></div>
Apparently beggers can be choosers.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J-Ham</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pay me to shoot it like STI does (contingency program) and I'll think about it.

I would want a 5" I guess because you're not offering a 6", with a light slide, fiber optic front, bomar style rear, grip reduction/stippling, undercut trigger guard....</div></div>
Apparently beggers can be choosers. </div></div>

Apparently you don't understand how STI's program works.

You buy a gun, you register, you wear their shirt, and IF you win a major match while doing so, they pay you with free product.

It's not a "here's a lump of cash, now shoot our gun" sort of arrangement. But it is a way of giving back to the shooters who advertise for them. I think it's a sweet deal.
 
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Oh yeah, it's a sweet deal, and I certainly don't fault you for doing it - I would too. I just don't think Mike was looking for people to sponser when he made his post. I could be wrong though.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J-Ham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh yeah, it's a sweet deal, and I certainly don't fault you for doing it - I would too. I just don't think Mike was looking for people to sponser when he made his post. I could be wrong though. </div></div>

I guess I don't look at it as sponsorship; I look at it as marketing to get your product out there.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pay me to shoot it like STI does (contingency program) and I'll think about it.

I would want a 5" I guess because you're not offering a 6", with a light slide, fiber optic front, bomar style rear, grip reduction/stippling, undercut trigger guard.... </div></div>

DZ,
I'm highly familiar with the contingency program and I'll contact you via PM....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pay me to shoot it like STI does (contingency program) and I'll think about it.

I would want a 5" I guess because you're not offering a 6", with a light slide, fiber optic front, bomar style rear, grip reduction/stippling, undercut trigger guard.... </div></div>

DZ,
I'm highly familiar with the contingency program and I'll contact you via PM.... </div></div>

Sweet deal! Good luck with your product. I hope you're able to get the word out and get the guns in the hands of shooters soon and I look forward to seeing it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: heatseekins</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im about to build a 2011, so send me some details !!

Im assuming a guy can build a billet frame
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Glen,
I'll give you a call when I get to Dallas tomorrow. I'll be on the machines today and won't have much time for the phone....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AverageJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Website isn't loading. Just time's out each time it try it. </div></div>

AJ,
The site is down currently, but should be fixed within an hour or so....Sorry....Damn Spammers!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: heatseekins</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im about to build a 2011, so send me some details !!

I'm assuming a guy can build a billet frame
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Glen,
I'll give you a call when I get to Dallas tomorrow. I'll be on the machines today and won't have much time for the phone....</div></div>

Hey, I'm in Dallas, and I'll buy you lunch tomorrow if you have time to meet to discuss a project I want to do based on your new Model 605 rimfire action and commercial detachable magazines...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B. Melick</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: heatseekins</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im about to build a 2011, so send me some details !!

I'm assuming a guy can build a billet frame
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Glen,
I'll give you a call when I get to Dallas tomorrow. I'll be on the machines today and won't have much time for the phone....</div></div>

Hey, I'm in Dallas, and I'll buy you lunch tomorrow if you have time to meet to discuss a project I want to do based on your new Model 605 rimfire action and commercial detachable magazines... </div></div>

PM sent....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: heatseekins</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im about to build a 2011, so send me some details !!

Im assuming a guy can build a billet frame
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STI did a run of aluminum frames a few years ago, great for a carry gun but not very practical for competition
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adam B</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: heatseekins</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im about to build a 2011, so send me some details !!

Im assuming a guy can build a billet frame
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STI did a run of aluminum frames a few years ago, great for a carry gun but not very practical for competition </div></div>

Both STI and SV offer aluminum frames, and there is nothing wrong with them for competition. Some people really love a heavier gun.

Paras are still popular (somewhat) and they have STEEL frames.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tansinator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Pics, specs, and price?
When will these be available?

Thanks

Eddie </div></div>

Pics should be available within the next couple of weeks....I expect availability within the next month to month and a half....Just a few administrative things to complete with how the guns will be identified, i.e., serial number convention, model markings, etc....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Underground Skunkworks has finalized the design of our new "OPERATOR" Series of high capacity handguns. There are three versions to select from; The OPERATOR 3.0, OPERATOR 4.15 and OPERATOR 5.0. These are double stack 2011 style, high end tactical packages designed for carry and competition. <span style="font-weight: bold"> The available calibers are 9mm, 40S&W and .45ACP.</span> You can have any finish you want as long as it's black and there are a host of sight options available. ***</div></div>

Why not offer the "high-end Operator 5.0" in <span style="font-weight: bold">10mm AUTO</span>?

It's what the .40S&W really wants to be anyway ...

<span style="font-weight: bold">"C'mon, Bubba. Man-up and gimme one in 10mm."</span>
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Good to meet you today, Mike; thanks for taking the time to chat with me, Boltripper, ToddACguy and TxHunter (Thoroughbred Rifles) about your latest products. I'm looking forward to your new precision rimfire bolt actions.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We're currently doing a Commander sized 10mm in the 1911, so it's not out of the question.... </div></div>

Great to hear. Thank you!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've never seen a 10mm 2011, but the mags are definitely long enough so I don't see why not! </div></div>

IIRC, some years back STI made them in 10mm, with 10mm-length mags that reportedly worked well. Later they built a .40S&W model off of it, which they currently offer, having discontinued the 10mm flavor.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B. Melick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Good to meet you today, Mike; thanks for taking the time to chat with me, Boltripper, ToddACguy and TxHunter (Thoroughbred Rifles) about your latest products. I'm looking forward to your new precision rimfire bolt actions. </div></div>

Thanks B. and the pleasure was mine. I could have sat there for many more hours talking rifles with you guys and of course the bonus was meeting the iconic BOLTRIPPER....
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We're currently doing a Commander sized 10mm in the 1911, so it's not out of the question.... </div></div>

Now your talking!
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I had a custom built STI with a 10mm and 40 barrels, the 10mm was great to shoot, I even killed a whitetail deer at 15 yards with it. It is a real shame that the 40 now overshadows the 10mm. I think this pistol will be a great addition to the Skunkworks lineup
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"iconic" </div></div>

You had to be there.... </div></div>

Trust me I know!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adam B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a custom built STI with a 10mm and 40 barrels, the 10mm was great to shoot, I even killed a whitetail deer at 15 yards with it. It is a real shame that the 40 now overshadows the 10mm. I think this pistol will be a great addition to the Skunkworks lineup </div></div>

You just talked me into offering a 10mm with and interchangeable 40S&W barrel....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adam B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a custom built STI with a 10mm and 40 barrels, the 10mm was great to shoot, I even killed a whitetail deer at 15 yards with it. It is a real shame that the 40 now overshadows the 10mm. I think this pistol will be a great addition to the Skunkworks lineup </div></div>

You just talked me into offering a 10mm with and interchangeable 40S&W barrel.... </div></div>

Just out of curiosity, do most barrels that are "pre=chambered" in .40 S&W have sufficient material to chamber them in 10mm instead, or is a different barrel blank required?

Obviously the mags are the same..as my STI will gladly take ammo at 1.180" and my friend's will take ammo at 1.200".
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adam B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a custom built STI with a 10mm and 40 barrels, the 10mm was great to shoot, I even killed a whitetail deer at 15 yards with it. It is a real shame that the 40 now overshadows the 10mm. I think this pistol will be a great addition to the Skunkworks lineup </div></div>

You just talked me into offering a 10mm with and interchangeable 40S&W barrel.... </div></div>

Just out of curiosity, do most barrels that are "pre=chambered" in .40 S&W have sufficient material to chamber them in 10mm instead, or is a different barrel blank required?

Obviously the mags are the same..as my STI will gladly take ammo at 1.180" and my friend's will take ammo at 1.200". </div></div>

Yes, you can chamber a 40 barrel in 10mm. It is the same barrel, just a deeper chamber.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adam B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a custom built STI with a 10mm and 40 barrels, the 10mm was great to shoot, I even killed a whitetail deer at 15 yards with it. It is a real shame that the 40 now overshadows the 10mm. I think this pistol will be a great addition to the Skunkworks lineup </div></div>

You just talked me into offering a 10mm with and interchangeable 40S&W barrel.... </div></div>

Just out of curiosity, do most barrels that are "pre=chambered" in .40 S&W have sufficient material to chamber them in 10mm instead, or is a different barrel blank required?

Obviously the mags are the same..as my STI will gladly take ammo at 1.180" and my friend's will take ammo at 1.200".</div></div>

a 40 S&W is just a shortened 10mm, they designed the 40 S&W off the 10mm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10mm_Auto
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_S&W

You can convert any 40 S&W barrel into a 10mm you just need to ream the barrel deeper. The gun I had that had with the 10 and 40 barrels, both started off as short chambered Scheumann barrels, one was reamed to 40 S&W and the other to 10mm. I have loaded some loads out to 1.25 in my 40 when I ran Clays loads in my STI and SVI mags
 
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That's what I figured. I hadn't ever actually measured the chamber so I wasn't sure if there was enough "meat" in the blank to chamber it deeper.

1.250" is pretty long. Mine will take 1.185" or so in my factory STI barrel.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adam B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a custom built STI with a 10mm and 40 barrels, the 10mm was great to shoot, I even killed a whitetail deer at 15 yards with it. It is a real shame that the 40 now overshadows the 10mm. I think this pistol will be a great addition to the Skunkworks lineup </div></div>

You just talked me into offering a 10mm with and interchangeable 40S&W barrel.... </div></div>

Winner, winner, Chicken Dinner!!!!

Pic's and price please.
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-Pat
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RADcustom</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Downzero</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skunkworks</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adam B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a custom built STI with a 10mm and 40 barrels, the 10mm was great to shoot, I even killed a whitetail deer at 15 yards with it. It is a real shame that the 40 now overshadows the 10mm. I think this pistol will be a great addition to the Skunkworks lineup </div></div>

You just talked me into offering a 10mm with and interchangeable 40S&W barrel.... </div></div>

Just out of curiosity, do most barrels that are "pre=chambered" in .40 S&W have sufficient material to chamber them in 10mm instead, or is a different barrel blank required?

Obviously the mags are the same..as my STI will gladly take ammo at 1.180" and my friend's will take ammo at 1.200". </div></div>

Yes, you can chamber a 40 barrel in 10mm. It is the same barrel, just a deeper chamber. </div></div>

Yep. I know two guys who bought .40S&W Springfield 1911s back when they had these. Because SA didn't offer a 10mm model, they promptly had the .40 barrels reamed out to 10mm-specs. They did increase the recoil spring weights with Wolff XP springs. One had some Colt Delta 10mm mags, using Wolff XP springs in them, as I recall, while the other used Metalform's 10mm mags. The guns reportedly ran fine. The one guy likes his 10mm reloads <span style="font-style: italic">REALLY</span> hot, trying to reach Double Tap Ammo levels (e.g., 200gns @ 1275fps-1300fps)

Or, another way to do it is just to get a "switch barrel" set-up in one caliber or the other.

That's what a lot of Glock 10mm owners do now with their G20 or G29. They pick up separate aftermarket barrels from, e.g., KKM, Bar-Sto or LWD in .40S&W - <span style="font-style: italic">or</span> .357Sig <span style="font-style: italic">or</span> 9x25 Dillon - drop them in, and blaze away.

All these cartridges are 10mm case-derivatives and all work using the stock Glock 10mm mags and recoil assembly. All you need are the spare barrels.

I have a stock-length .40 barrel from LWD for my G29. Works fine. I can load up ten .40 cartridges in the G29's 10mm mags and they all feed and fire with no issues.

This same concept should work with a 10mm 1911 or with any other properly set up 10mm-platform: one gun capable of running mulitple 10mm-derivative calibers by means of a simple barrel-swap.

Better still, it's cost-effective since only the extra barrels are needed.

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