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Update n West Virginia teachers insult to student

Maggot

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood"
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  • Jul 27, 2007
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    Sounds to me like the teacher insisted on a conflict and his fellow students came to his support.


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    A West Virginia teen arrested and accused of nearly inciting a riot after a confrontation with a teacher over his National Rifle Association t-shirt has inspired dozens of students across his county to wear similar apparel in solidarity.

    Jared Marcum, 14, had a confrontation Thursday with a Logan Middle School teacher over his NRA t-shirt, which bears the organization's logo, along with an image of a hunting rifle and the phrase, "Protect your right."

    Marcum's lawyer, Ben White, said that when the teen was told to remove the shirt or turn it inside out, he attempted to engage the teacher in a debate.

    "Jared respects firearms and has training to use them, and believes in the Second Amendment," White told ABCNews.com. "He believes it's being threatened by current legislation. He wore [the shirt] as an expression of political speech and the need to protect the Second Amendment."

    White said that Marcum had been wearing the shirt without causing any problems from homeroom at the beginning of the school day through fifth period, and was confronted by one of the school's teachers while getting his lunch. When Jared refused to remove or reverse the shirt, the teacher began to raise his voice, and it caught the attention of students eating their lunch, White said.

    Marcum was eventually arrested and taken away by police after refusing to remove the shirt. White said that when police told the teen they were going to arrest him, he stuck his hands out and said, "Fine."

    Logan City Police Chief E.K. Harper told ABCNews.com that Marcum was not arrested for wearing a t-shirt, but for "disrupting the school process."

    "His conduct in school almost incited a riot," Harper said.

    Marcum was not put in jail, Harper said, and was released to his mother after less than 30 minutes at the police station -- normal procedure for a juvenile arrest.

    White said that charges being filed against Marcum are pending the prosecutor's office's review of the evidence. But he insisted that it was the teacher who caused the issue by confronting the teen, and that video gathered from the school will prove it.

    "I believe the teacher was acting beyond the scope of his employment," he said. "What the video shows is that students did step up on the benches to the tables in the lunchroom when they were escorting Jared out of building. Kids jumped up, clapping. Teachers said to get off and be quiet, and they did."

    Logan county schools' dress code, which is posted online, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexual language, along with ads for alcohol, tobacco or drugs. There is no mention of the NRA or guns.

    "My belief is that if the teacher could have applied some common sense and say, 'I think that violates the dress code. Let me check with the dress code,'" White said.

    When contacted by ABCNews.com about the incident, Logan County Schools Superintendent Wilma Zigmond said that she was not at liberty to discuss students with the media, but indicated that more than the shirt led to the arrest.

    "I don't think I've ever known of a student being suspended for a shirt," Zigmond said.

    On top of his arrest and trip to the police station, Marcum was suspended from school for one day. This morning, he returned to school wearing the same t-shirt, White said.

    White accompanied Marcum and his stepfather to a meeting at the school, where the principal, according to White, said that she "hates that it happened" to Marcum.

    Logan County students wore NRA t-shirts today in solidarity with Marcum, White said, adding that Marcum is an honor roll student eyeing a career in the military. Zigmond did not mention any disciplinary action during school today.

    White is confident that all of the evidence will work in the teenager's favor.

    "There's no evidence that Jared almost caused a riot," he said. "They won't be able to produce any evidence to that fact. ... The teacher should have the ability to debate things with students. I don't care how you slice it. ... It was the teacher not acting like an adult. He created the issue."
     
    The reason this shit keeps happening is because the teachers/politicians/media-fucks don't have to pay for it. They can violate you in anyway they want with no repercussions because of their jobs and the system is setup to allow for this kind of one-sided harassment. This shit would stop in a hurry if there were repercussions to pay such as losing your job/money/freedom/etc.
     
    Dumbass school district, dumbass teacher and dumbass cops! Guess no one has any common sense anymore. Good on him for standing up in what he believes in.
     
    I give the kid credit, as is his due, for sticking to his guns and doing it the mature way. Can't give the teacher any of that same credit though.
     
    Dumbass school district, dumbass teacher and dumbass cops! Guess no one has any common sense anymore. Good on him for standing up in what he believes in.

    Slap, that begs a smartassed reply, emo30.gifbut out of respect Ill just say..."Good Post" bro.
     
    Call it what you will Maggot but the fact that in this day and age a teacher is so alarmed over a T-shirt that she feels the need to call 911 over and that the responding cops feel the need to lock up some kid over it is ridiculous. No common sense and no respect for freedom of speech.

    I won't say that all involved should be fired but they should definitely be retrained.
     
    In case you haven't seen it, the lad is wearing the shirt again...
     
    Call it what you will Maggot but the fact that in this day and age a teacher is so alarmed over a T-shirt that she feels the need to call 911 over and that the responding cops feel the need to lock up some kid over it is ridiculous. No common sense and no respect for freedom of speech.

    I won't say that all involved should be fired but they should definitely be retrained.

    The teacher was male.
     
    Being one who has supported three boys in school, I have found that simply stating Massey vs Henry(and a few other cases that have been fought and won since then) is usually enough to insure school district compliance in not enforcing misguided and illegal dress codes. The teacher was way outside of granted authority, in fact having no authority to act in this manner. Appellate Courts have stood for the kids each and every time where clothing that poses no direct safety concern is held. Chains, spikes, etc are easily legislated and allowed to be coded for enforcement in public(government) schools. Hair style, and clothing codes cannot be enforced because the schools, nor the districts have the authority to do so.
    It is truly sad when a parent has to educate the educator. Each time I dealt with such things, I simply went to the top to the Superintendant. This was usually followed with a phone call, as I sat there waiting to the school's principal. Case in point, the last time, my kid was released back to class from the principal's office. As I was going home, my phone rang. It was the principal telling me that I should have come to her office. I stated simply, sorry ma'am, you didn't have the authority and in fact abused what you do have. Good day. oh, and by the way, leave my kids alone or I WILL take you to court and take anything you think that will form a sports program, music program, or after school program. Am I clear? Good day.
    My phone has not rang one time over clothing, or hair for either boy since then. In point of fact, their excellent behavior, solid citizenship, and top of class grades(yes, top, as in No 1) show they are probably more intelligent than those teaching them. I caution you, however, to not get involved in discussions of politics, religion, or pretty much anything scientific with either of them. You will be schooled so to speak.