i currently have a YHM 30 caliber QD phantom for a 308 5R.
what makes the thunder beast so much better?
what makes the thunder beast so much better?
Suppressors what makes the TBAC so much better?
- Thread starter corey4
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Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
POI shift (or lack of), lightweight, good suppression, good recoil reduction, GREAT customer service.
I don't own a YHM suppressor but there's nothing wrong with them. I do think the TBAC sounds better having shot both. I also like being able to come here and get the owner of TBAC to respond to threads / PMs.
POI shift (or lack of), lightweight, good suppression, good recoil reduction, GREAT customer service.
I don't own a YHM suppressor but there's nothing wrong with them. I do think the TBAC sounds better having shot both. I also like being able to come here and get the owner of TBAC to respond to threads / PMs.
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
I've actually decided on a tbac can for the reasons stated but i'd like to play devil's advocate.
As mentioned above, they have good suppression and good recoil along with GREAT cs.
Are there cans out there that have the opposite? GREAT suppresion, GREAT recoil reduction, but with GOOD cs?
I am ALL FOR spending money on products made by companies i respect and that respect the customer... but i also want the best product i can afford. Is there a can out there that has better performance than a TBAC? I want my money to go to the right place (hence ordering a tbac) BUT... at the end of the day, it's me behind the gun and i want the best can for the money. Customer service isnt out there absorbing the recoil or lowering the sound for me.... - Again, I am now officially in the waiting game for one, but if you buy a quality can, how much CS does one really need? (apologize if this is a woefully ignorant question) I will state for the record.. to go back to being me, i DID end up going with tbac because not only did it seem as though the can was a solid product but the fact that ZAK (from tbac) is a very active member here and that i've read many times that the company is pretty involved with matches and the sport in general. I ultimately wish that the suppressor industry was a bit more open. More tests, more available data, less dealers pushing cans they sell and trashing cans they dont. In the end, the data drives the market and the market drives better products. *endrant.
I've actually decided on a tbac can for the reasons stated but i'd like to play devil's advocate.
As mentioned above, they have good suppression and good recoil along with GREAT cs.
Are there cans out there that have the opposite? GREAT suppresion, GREAT recoil reduction, but with GOOD cs?
I am ALL FOR spending money on products made by companies i respect and that respect the customer... but i also want the best product i can afford. Is there a can out there that has better performance than a TBAC? I want my money to go to the right place (hence ordering a tbac) BUT... at the end of the day, it's me behind the gun and i want the best can for the money. Customer service isnt out there absorbing the recoil or lowering the sound for me.... - Again, I am now officially in the waiting game for one, but if you buy a quality can, how much CS does one really need? (apologize if this is a woefully ignorant question) I will state for the record.. to go back to being me, i DID end up going with tbac because not only did it seem as though the can was a solid product but the fact that ZAK (from tbac) is a very active member here and that i've read many times that the company is pretty involved with matches and the sport in general. I ultimately wish that the suppressor industry was a bit more open. More tests, more available data, less dealers pushing cans they sell and trashing cans they dont. In the end, the data drives the market and the market drives better products. *endrant.
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
It's not lack of POI shift; all cans cause a POI shift when you hang them off the end of a barrel.
It's consistencey and the ability to shoot small groups within a reasonable rate of fire.
And it's because of an attention to detail. If you knew Zak you'd understand the importance he places on attention to detail.
It's not lack of POI shift; all cans cause a POI shift when you hang them off the end of a barrel.
It's consistencey and the ability to shoot small groups within a reasonable rate of fire.
And it's because of an attention to detail. If you knew Zak you'd understand the importance he places on attention to detail.
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i currently have a YHM 30 caliber QD phantom for a 308 5R.
what makes the thunder beast so much better? </div></div>
Lighterweight, lower POI shift, more sound reduction.
Really if you already have a can and aren't competing with your gun, paying for an entirely new suppressor in the same caliber may or may not be worth doing. You'll have to make a matrix of pros and on the con side put the cost and decide what you want to do.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i currently have a YHM 30 caliber QD phantom for a 308 5R.
what makes the thunder beast so much better? </div></div>
Lighterweight, lower POI shift, more sound reduction.
Really if you already have a can and aren't competing with your gun, paying for an entirely new suppressor in the same caliber may or may not be worth doing. You'll have to make a matrix of pros and on the con side put the cost and decide what you want to do.
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accuracy is the name of the game...</div></div>
AGREED!!! Which is why I have a 30P-1 on order in OD green. Finally, I can put the TAB cover I ordered for it, like a year ago, to good use...it was getting lonely in my drag bag LOL!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accuracy is the name of the game...</div></div>
AGREED!!! Which is why I have a 30P-1 on order in OD green. Finally, I can put the TAB cover I ordered for it, like a year ago, to good use...it was getting lonely in my drag bag LOL!
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accuracy is the name of the game...</div></div>
I agree with Zac, but TBAC has the best customer service in the Game. They do a great job of taking care of their customers and Dealers.
Thanks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zak Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Accuracy is the name of the game...</div></div>
I agree with Zac, but TBAC has the best customer service in the Game. They do a great job of taking care of their customers and Dealers.
Thanks
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
There is no better answer to your question than this right here:
http://thunderbeastarms.com/why-thunder-beast
There is no better answer to your question than this right here:
http://thunderbeastarms.com/why-thunder-beast
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rmfield</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no better answer to your question than this right here:
http://thunderbeastarms.com/why-thunder-beast </div></div>
Reading that makes me want to buy another one!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rmfield</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is no better answer to your question than this right here:
http://thunderbeastarms.com/why-thunder-beast </div></div>
Reading that makes me want to buy another one!
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
i had a baffle strike on my new gun with my 30ba and zak responded to my thread quickly. I literally just got off the phone with tbac and they helped find a solution. I will be sending my upper and suppressor back to them to have them machine it properly. Customer service is a HUGE deal. Try calling aac and getting a responce the same day, let alone have them respond to a question here on the hide. When i was serching for a suppressor last year it was down to aac and tbac. I called aac multiple times over the course of a couple weeks and didnt once talk to a human. I left messages each time and never recieved a call back. Tbac on the other hand i always talked to a human, some times the person i needed to answer my question was not available but recieved a call back the same day, usually within the hour. And they answered all my question and didnt rush me off the phone. You cant go wrong with Tbac.
i had a baffle strike on my new gun with my 30ba and zak responded to my thread quickly. I literally just got off the phone with tbac and they helped find a solution. I will be sending my upper and suppressor back to them to have them machine it properly. Customer service is a HUGE deal. Try calling aac and getting a responce the same day, let alone have them respond to a question here on the hide. When i was serching for a suppressor last year it was down to aac and tbac. I called aac multiple times over the course of a couple weeks and didnt once talk to a human. I left messages each time and never recieved a call back. Tbac on the other hand i always talked to a human, some times the person i needed to answer my question was not available but recieved a call back the same day, usually within the hour. And they answered all my question and didnt rush me off the phone. You cant go wrong with Tbac.
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
thanks guys.
now, if i can just find a 30P-1 in stock here in PA...
hint hint to mr. zak smith since your PM is turned off lol
thanks guys.
now, if i can just find a 30P-1 in stock here in PA...
hint hint to mr. zak smith since your PM is turned off lol
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thanks guys.
now, if i can just find a 30P-1 in stock here in PA...
hint hint to mr. zak smith since your PM is turned off lol </div></div>
Email them directly. They will respond quick. (Either Mr Zak or Ray or someone equally as tuned in)
The only thing that sucks about TBAC cans, is after you buy one, your other cans are substandard.
My TBAC can suppresses better, is lighter, and their attention to detail is spot on.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thanks guys.
now, if i can just find a 30P-1 in stock here in PA...
hint hint to mr. zak smith since your PM is turned off lol </div></div>
Email them directly. They will respond quick. (Either Mr Zak or Ray or someone equally as tuned in)
The only thing that sucks about TBAC cans, is after you buy one, your other cans are substandard.
My TBAC can suppresses better, is lighter, and their attention to detail is spot on.
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
Consistent (minimal) POI shift and maintaining, if not improving, accuracy!
Consistent (minimal) POI shift and maintaining, if not improving, accuracy!
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
Try King Shooters Supply.
If they don't have what you want incoming, try one of our larger TX dealers, they could ship it to your dealer for a transfer.
Try King Shooters Supply.
If they don't have what you want incoming, try one of our larger TX dealers, they could ship it to your dealer for a transfer.
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
when i first bought my YHM phantom, i looked into it. everyone said they were ok. but the 6 months it took to acquire, i learned alot more and now want a TBAC. DAMN IT!!! lol
thanks for the reply zak. i'll call friday.
when i first bought my YHM phantom, i looked into it. everyone said they were ok. but the 6 months it took to acquire, i learned alot more and now want a TBAC. DAMN IT!!! lol
thanks for the reply zak. i'll call friday.
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
You'll have a hard time beating this price. Shipping is included...
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3839639#Post3839639
I'm pretty sure he has a 30P-1 in stock
You'll have a hard time beating this price. Shipping is included...
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3839639#Post3839639
I'm pretty sure he has a 30P-1 in stock
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You'll have a hard time beating this price. Shipping is included...
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3839639#Post3839639
I'm pretty sure he has a 30P-1 in stock </div></div>
DAMMMMMIT. I thought that group was over. I just ordered the can last Fri and dropped $125 more than I need to. That sucks.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You'll have a hard time beating this price. Shipping is included...
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3839639#Post3839639
I'm pretty sure he has a 30P-1 in stock </div></div>
DAMMMMMIT. I thought that group was over. I just ordered the can last Fri and dropped $125 more than I need to. That sucks.
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
Weight, Customer service, and most importantly ACCURACY and CONSISTENCY!!!
There are other cans that will shoot well but try putting 20-30 rounds through them especially on a hot day and watch them start to string shots as the cans heat up.
Weight, Customer service, and most importantly ACCURACY and CONSISTENCY!!!
There are other cans that will shoot well but try putting 20-30 rounds through them especially on a hot day and watch them start to string shots as the cans heat up.
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
Everytime I'm at the range using my TBAC someone asks me if I'm shooting subsonic rounds. Last time the guy even argued with me that I was using them. I wasn't. The TBAC is that good.
Everytime I'm at the range using my TBAC someone asks me if I'm shooting subsonic rounds. Last time the guy even argued with me that I was using them. I wasn't. The TBAC is that good.
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hannibalsnipes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everytime I'm at the range using my TBAC someone asks me if I'm shooting subsonic rounds. Last time the guy even argued with me that I was using them. I wasn't. The TBAC is that good. </div></div>
This is great to hear. This is going to be a LONG wait...
Which can are you shooting?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hannibalsnipes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Everytime I'm at the range using my TBAC someone asks me if I'm shooting subsonic rounds. Last time the guy even argued with me that I was using them. I wasn't. The TBAC is that good. </div></div>
This is great to hear. This is going to be a LONG wait...
Which can are you shooting?
Re: what makes the TBAC so much better?
TBAC is all I ever recommend when asked. My 30p-1 on my Aw is just simply perfect for my needs.
TBAC is all I ever recommend when asked. My 30p-1 on my Aw is just simply perfect for my needs.
